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(Pharmahuasca / DMT - 50mg) - First time - Disappointing & vaguely dysphoric

specialspack

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Background - mid 30s, experienced with a wide variety of psychedelics.

Smoked DMT has always been difficult for me to really enjoy - my lungs just can't seem take it, and I find it difficult to hold enough smoke in to really get anywhere with it. I've had a couple of decent attempts, but that's about it. Every other time has been agony on the lungs, and nice body high and some very minor visuals.

So, I decided it was time to dip my toe in the oral route. 50mg seems like a good starting dose - and I can always try smoking a little at the peak if it's not enough.

6.50pm - 300mg moclobemide ingested, empty stomach, no food since midday.

7.50pm - I place 50mg of freebase DMT (extract) in a small glass with the juice of a fresh lime, and stir for 5 minutes until most of the DMT has dissolved, top up with apple juice and down the glass. It has a slightly bitter taste.

8.30pm - Not really much going on - I noticed an alert a little white ago, and I definitely feel slightly altered. There is a brightening of colours, typical to the come up of most psychedelics.

8.45pm - Not really come up much more. With eyes closed, if I try hard, there is slight pattening. Eyes open, nothing - I go into the garden and don't notice any sense of "breathing" or movement. I smoke a small spliff.

9.15pm - Feeling a bit disappointed now. I'm off baseline enough so that I'm restless, and just feeling a bit bored. I try to read, but I can't focus my attention enough on anything serious. I wander about, with that not-quite-right feeling.

9.45pm - I'm pretty hungry by now, and feeling slightly nauseous. I decide to eat a light supper, and then maybe try smoking some further DMT. I eat some daal & rice, drink some water, my stomach feels uncomfortable and I generally don't feel very pleasant. I go back upstairs, and lie down, and read the news online and browse the web, generally feeling a bit out of sorts and bored. My mental process are pretty negative - I'm feeling self critical for my recent tendency to procrastinate, and the minor psychedelic unsettlement is just making me feel more depressed.

10.20pm - I have a sudden mental shift. My stomach has settled, but I'm suddenly hit by a wave of feeling more altered. A strong weird, physical sensations passes through me, and uncomfortable energy. I feel hyper-present in my body whilst slightly dissociated. Like I'm wearing a suit that fits both totally tightly yet totally wrongly at the same time, and as if I might step outside my own body at any minute. I'm totally surprised - where has this come from, 2.5 hours after taking the DMT?

There is a slight increase in visuals - I see a few faint spirals and helices cross my vision, but they're faint, seemingly composed of "floaters". I feel totally dysphoric - this isn't pleasant. I lie back on the bed, more annoyed than anything else at this sudden increase. The weird physical sensation won't leave me, and it feels bizarrely toxic, as if it might get suddenly worse at any moment

10.45pm - the experience hasn't got any stronger, but I'm left with a overall nagging negative mental and physical aspect. Quite unlike my smoked experiences, which even when they haven't been that intense have given a nice warm euphoric glow. I don't really want to smoke anymore now though - I just want this to end!

I'm generally pretty fed up with the whole thing, and take 0.5mg of xanax to relax and try and banish this uncomfortable feeling.

11.30pm - pretty much back to baseline, I call my girlfriend and tell her about my unsuccessful experience. I drink a beer, watch some TV, and go to bed. I read a little but the xanax makes my eyes droop and I'm out by 12.30.

Overall very disappointing, and the effects such as they were, were not at all pleasant. I guess I should have taken more - the extract itself was quite old so may have lost a little potency? Maybe I just wasn't in the right frame of mind.
 
Sorry to hear that your experience was disappointing. This is a very well written report though and I would like to thank you for your submission :) I still haven't tried DMT so I can't compare notes with you.
 
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Pharmahuasca usually requires a larger dose of DMT than you took. At least it appears that way from what I've read.
 
Threshold DMT is disappointing. If the air isn't filled with vivid, translucent patterns within half an hour then you need a bigger dose like 200-300mg or more.

Eating a little fatty food often helps the DMT kick in which is why you probably noticed a little change after eating.

Respect due for going the moclobemide route tho special.
 
Maybe I just wasn't in the right frame of mind.

Maybe, seeing as you'd alluded to that in your report as being part of your mindset for a while. Makes sense to me.

50mgs also doesn't seem a large amount but there's a difference between a low dose & being gloomy IMO.
 
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