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Peruvian Torch, first trip...

the_happy_stoner

the_happy_stoner

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I'm going to be taking my first mescaline trip in the form of peruvian torch cacti very soon, i'd like to know how much i will be needing in dried PT for a trip strong enough that i will be able to explore the woods on my own and not get hurt but still have a deeply spiritual trip, i was thinking 40-50g but i'm not sure. I'm 5ft 5" 126lb, skinny. i'm well experienced with psychedelics, having taken acid, shrooms and DMT numerous times, as well as 25i-NBOMe.
Also, how would i go about taking it? i was going to make it into a drink but i don't want to waste any mescaline...
 
Well taking about 1% alkaloid content for PT would probably be optimistic apparently, also a reference Erowid mentions showed 0.8%. That means that 40-50g could be 320-400 mg at 40g and 400-500 mg at 50g. Personally I did not find mescaline to be a very strong psychedelic in general so for a strong trip that would probably not be too much. But in the freak case that it has a potency of 2% ... well double those doses. So be prepared.

I am not sure if mescaline is the type of drug that has a dose that is actually dependent on body weight. With something like alcohol it matters that it spreads in your bodily fluids which has a volume corresponding to body weight. But perhaps mescaline depends more on receptor densities in your brain. In any case I doubt we need to take body weight into account.

Do you have powder or dried chunks?

Also first take plenty of time to reach the peak before deciding if you are up for exploring nature on your own.
 
in before Ismene tells you how vile and un drinkable cacti tea is!
 
Solipsis said:
Well taking about 1% alkaloid content for PT would probably be optimistic apparently, also a reference Erowid mentions showed 0.8%. That means that 40-50g could be 320-400 mg at 40g and 400-500 mg at 50g. Personally I did not find mescaline to be a very strong psychedelic in general so for a strong trip that would probably not be too much. But in the freak case that it has a potency of 2% ... well double those doses. So be prepared.

I am not sure if mescaline is the type of drug that has a dose that is actually dependent on body weight. With something like alcohol it matters that it spreads in your bodily fluids which has a volume corresponding to body weight. But perhaps mescaline depends more on receptor densities in your brain. In any case I doubt we need to take body weight into account.

Do you have powder or dried chunks?

Also first take plenty of time to reach the peak before deciding if you are up for exploring nature on your own.
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They're dried chunks ordered online, the nature i'm taking about is too small to get lost in so i wouldn't worry too much about it anyway, but thanks for the concern and helpful info
 
the_happy_stoner said:
Also, how would i go about taking it? i was going to make it into a drink
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My advice is order a very small amount and see whether or not you can drink it. Lots of people take the first swig, gip it back up into the glass and then have to drink their own vomit along with the cactus. Not much fun when you've just spent £100 on cactus and can't drink the shit.

You can squirt it up your arse - it's hell holding it up there but at least you get to trip without any nausea.

dg420 said:
in before Ismene tells you how vile and un drinkable cacti tea is!
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Damn beat me to it.

2002Tii said:
Also inb4 he compares it to driving to work every morning at 5am in the pissing rain.
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I think that's the one I use when anyone says "Try and apply the lessons of psychedelics to your every day life isn't it?
 
gymstud said:
I'm also planning same 50g of pt post back how it gors
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please do....am currently growing a torch and a handful of peyote, will take a few more years but always interested in reading trip reports....even the failed attempts, in fact these may well be of more use to people
 
I have done a 50g peruvian torch trip, it was pretty cool definitely not too strong, took a while to work like hours then a super smooth amazing thoughts kinda weird I am glad I did it, if I were to do it again I would make a simple Tincture with grain alch. and evaporate most of the alcohol, this stuff taste horrible and is not necessary to eat, if I were to eat actual Peyote I would eat them like they did years ago, but considering you need to eat way more PT it is just nauseating. Look into Chimora or basic tinctures.

You can trip for days off a small Peyote button if you find the right one ;) so the only way to get near this with PT is to do an extract and still you wont be able to hit that point
 
dg420 said:
not so
it takes many buttons to trip for up to 24hrs
wont feel anything like a trip from one small button
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Ok.... you must have only come in contact with dried PT that was passed off as Peyote.... but thanks, first time users can trip past 24 hours off one powerful button. quote from another online guru...

3-4g is a pretty good dose for dried L. williamsii. You have to also take into account the age of the specimen that the dried material came from... older plant = higher alkaloid content.

So, 3g from a younger plant will pack a good bit less punch than 3g from a 25 year old one.

-Jason
 
But the older they are the bigger they are - so you can't trip of a "small" peyote.

I think the dose that experienced indian trippers used to take was somewhere around 30-50.

And you don't trip for 24 hours on mescaline anyway - you're well past the peak after about 10 hours.
 
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