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Permeant deterioration after using too much charge/bath salts

chitown rollin said:
he's asking if it is permanent and nobody could possibly know that and he is asking why it happened and I can't think of any other reasoning besides that he took bath salts? if someone doesn't tell people to stop doing this shit than nobody is going to stop. I don't use drugs anymore and when I used to, no, I didn't test my drugs for purity but at the same time I was getting drugs that I at least knew the effects of. it's just plain dangerous to take drugs from 'under the sink' which we don't even know the effects of yet. if he needs to get high that bad shouldn't people be talking him out of this way and going down to the corner to get a bag of coke?

claiming that they may be safer than illegal drugs is just crazy man. I mean come on ecstasy has been around for a long enough time for us to know that it is RELATIVELY safe to use, cocaine and heroin have been around forever. why not pick a drug that we know about? other things that I can think of such as aerosol cans and computer duster are also made by humans NOT for consumption and would you argue that those are safer than some illegal drugs? I hope not.
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I agree. Taking something without labelled ingredients is stupid. But he may have known the ingredients. I'm guessing it's some kind of cathinone / MDPV..

When you buy coke you don't know you aren't getting another active ingredient cut in it.. and in the UK when mephedrone became popular cocaine deaths fell by about 50% while mephedrone killed 1 or 2 people. Because we know more about a drug doesn't mean it's safer. MDAI is probably alot safer than MDMA. Mephedrone has apparently proved to be safer than cocaine.

These research chemicals are made for human consumption.. they just label it otherwise to get around the law.

The OP is obviously suffering some negative side affects that could have been caused by any stimulant.. amphetamine, cocain, MDPV, whatever.. Like i said there is a high possibility that some research chemicals will prove to be safer than popular illegal drugs.
 
I have had my fair share of stimulant experience. with molly especially and have never had a horrible experience. but recently ive been doing the salts semi frequently, in 2-3 day binges separated by about 5 or more days and i usually go thru about 500 mg....
I don't think im allowing my body to catch up as it feels as if im getting less of an effect as before...

any advice as to which "brands" of mdpv are the most affective/least harmful?
 
chitown rollin said:
he's asking if it is permanent and nobody could possibly know that and he is asking why it happened and I can't think of any other reasoning besides that he took bath salts?
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It's probably not permanent... there are few things in life that are. Oh sure, you can do yourself permanent damage. But it isn't that common from using 'bath salts' once, or a few times.
johnz said:
any advice as to which "brands" of mdpv are the most affective/least harmful?
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Yes -- pure lab grade, "unbranded" MDPV bought from a research chemical seller. You can't get any more effective than the pure product, nor any more sure of what you're actually using. But I still wouldn't recommend it.
 
Dedbeet said:
But I still wouldn't recommend it.
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Quoted for truth!

Please stay away from MDPV unless you already know how it effects you and you can use it responsibly.

I have heard way more negative experiences with this than positive ones, and for some reason, the people who sell it are only interested in money (same thing goes for all illegal and most legal drugs too, though).
 
its NOT MDVP or Ectasy

it's not Ecstasy, bath salts and/or Plant Root Stimulator (street names) contain Mephredone........the come down sucks, stay awake as long as possible--

remember to eat, you'll feel better....
snorting it will kill your sense of smell/taste and you will resort to mixing some with water or soda or juice - just don't do too much! a key bump an hour is suffice or else you'll feel like crap!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone
 
johnz said:
I have had my fair share of stimulant experience. with molly especially and have never had a horrible experience. but recently ive been doing the salts semi frequently, in 2-3 day binges separated by about 5 or more days and i usually go thru about 500 mg....
I don't think im allowing my body to catch up as it feels as if im getting less of an effect as before...

any advice as to which "brands" of mdpv are the most affective/least harmful?
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how about youre doing wayyy to much of this shit. Im doing it for the first time at the moment have done about 250mg so far i think may get through the whole 500mg i have but will definitely only do it very rarely.. you are going to fuck youreself up hardcore dude.
 
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Hey guys, I'm at my wit's end. The title says it all. I feel like there are no words to describe how I feel, like nothing will ever be the same again. I'm now going to attempt to try and take responsibly for this and keep trying to feel normal, but I don't know how that will be possible again. I just can't believe this happened to me. I always thought I'd make it through, but now after that one meaningless binge it's all over.



That was a few hours ago. I'm feeling significantly better now, but that's not to imply that I don't feel just awful and not normal right now. and to think, it's permanent. I think that's what kills me the most. I just don't know how this happened to me. There was always this "you'll make it through, everything will revert back to normal someday soon/in a day/eventually" mentality... but here I am.
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MPDV did same to me bro. After years of abuse of pure mdpv I don't feel anything anymore. Love, Pain, Sad, I just never feel sober anymore. Sex is pointless with out drugs, I hate doing normal things, im always tired and bored and my memory is shot. Taken me four years and im still not back to normal. It left me with a bad case of paranoia and delusional thinking.

MDPV is a unknown drug, hasn't been around along time (thats whats in your bath salts) long term damage isn't really know yet.
 
xxsicknessxx said:
MPDV did same to me bro. After years of abuse of pure mdpv I don't feel anything anymore. Love, Pain, Sad, I just never feel sober anymore. Sex is pointless with out drugs, I hate doing normal things, im always tired and bored and my memory is shot. Taken me four years and im still not back to normal. It left me with a bad case of paranoia and delusional thinking.

MDPV is a unknown drug, hasn't been around along time (thats whats in your bath salts) long term damage isn't really know yet.
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did the guy u quoted get this fucked up after one session on it. or did he do it for years too? im on it right now and youre starting too scare me. Keep having a bit more when i start to feel like im coming down. Will probably do the 0.5gm bag i got over a period off about ten hours or so. Is 500mg too much too take in one night or is it pretty normal? have you ever done this much? im assuming you have
 
I was already pretty sleep deprived when i took my first dose about 6-7 hours ago. only had 2 hours off sleep the night before and thats kinda why i took it, so i wouldnt feel tired anymore.. is this gonna make ther comedown worse? oh and i just got the thread that i started about bath salts in the ecstasy and other similar drugs section shut down because apparently youre not allowed to talk about this product because no one really knows whats in it. Is this drug really not allowed to be talked about?
 
come down wasnt actually too bad at all. got a bit of a headache and felt a bit bad for a while but didnt last that long. effects just kinda very slowly wore off then i fell asleep and woke up feelin pretty good.

Turns out it wasn't MDPV that I was on anyway...apparently it was more likely a-pvp..
 
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is mdvp anything like what it has been advertised as being a super-sex stimulant? I used to very much enjoy (from time to time) the old coke and E party time sessions with an ex lover. I've never done anything with mdvp, is it even an approximation of the sexy-time that mcafee made it out to be?
 
mallocup said:
is mdvp anything like what it has been advertised as being a super-sex stimulant? I used to very much enjoy (from time to time) the old coke and E party time sessions with an ex lover. I've never done anything with mdvp, is it even an approximation of the sexy-time that mcafee made it out to be?
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i think it depends on the individual, but yeah mdpv does have its properties
 
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