permanent trip???

[Devourer]

I have taken mushrooms a number of times, and acid a few times. But I did DXM before I had tried and psychedlics...It is extremely rare to find psychedelics in my area. But I had never before mixed a psychedelic with dxm...

I have a few friends that mixed DXM with 2c-P
they ranted and raved about the combination saying that they really complete eachother,

Still doesn't sound like the best idea, besides I can't stand the dxm high, and the oral 2c-P high borders that aswell, as I prefer to smoke it.

 

[AlyDrops]

Dacia,

Take it from me, I've been in the same situation as you only much more severe. You haven't damaged yourself permanently, I promise. If you let yourself think that you have and you constantly worry about the effects then you're only going to be keeping them alive. You have to let yourself believe (because it's true!) that you haven't done yourself any lasting damage, and force yourself to ignore it. In time it'll fade away and you'll go back to normal.

What you experienced on your trip was much more than likely just a panic attack and nothing more (including the increased heart rate), which would be especially amplified in such a state. The combination you mentioned was definitely not dangerous, and more than likely you just had a fight-or-flight moment when they both peaked. My guess would be because 1) you were tripping unexpectedly hard and 2) the serotonin reuptake inhibition of the DXM may have taken up space the psilocin in the shrooms would have normally occupied in serotonin receptors and brought out more of its norepinephrine action instead (this is just a guess, but I usually assume this is the same reason SSRIs + LSD make for a very delirious/psychotic trip too, by shifting to dopamine action). That's the main reason it will go away if you just forget about it though. Dwelling on a panic attack is just pointless worrying that fuels itself.

 

[perKeceT]

For some reason though the average person wont believe you, they seem to think ten dollar ecstasy contains H and coke,

dude reading this line made me have to let this thread know that last week for the first time i met someone who honest to god believed this... me and a friend were saying we dont wanna touch h or coke n then i mentioned that molly is the shit. this guy is like "dont you idiots know the two main ingredients in x are heroin and cocaine? that and like 60 other chemicals that dont do anything" and when someone is that ignorant, you just gotta nod and leave it alone...

 

[Ismene]

Well sorry if I sounded harsh Sekio,
but I feel like these fellers taking the DXM are taking it simply because it's over the counter and gets them over-the-top high.

But if it's all they can find then you can't knock them. Perhaps they live with their parents and can't grow mushrooms.

 

[Devourer]

Yeah, My mom is still 100% convinced the ACTUAL ecstasy pills she got back in the day were always a mix of Heroin and Cocaine, which I've tried to explain to her it was MDMA/MDA but to no avail, told her she was lucky too since all the shit nowadays is piperazines and subb'd amphetamines, she still wouldn't budge.
My roomate had a few people over the other day and I was seeing if they wanted 2c-c, they of course had NO IDEA what it was, and when I mentioned it was a roll they wouldn't shut up about how they get the best beans, and how some beans "are just heroin, or just coke" Dude why would you even put coke in an E tablet? You can hardly fit the MDMA in there, and you want to put something WEAKER in the mix that costs more and takes far more?? Yeahhh doesn't make sense
They wouldn't budge either, nor accept the fact that it's NOT mMDMA (and blow/horse)in the beans that they get... silly kids.

And like I mentioned, we have a HUGE "molly" problem down here, 3/4ths the kids are doing it, and it's definitely NOT MDMA, just RC stims.
This is suuuuch a pet peeve to me being as how unethical it is, watch there's gunna be a huge eruption of parkinsons disease in like 4 years because of these jackasses selling RC's as MDMA.

Shit, If I were an asshole I'd sell the 2c's as molly, fuck half of them would think it was still molly, but I'm just so against that.


Yeah..I work myself up sometimes over it,
I need not try and help them, and instead let them bathe in their ignorance.
They'll pay for it in the end.


It's like HELLO I actually know my shit, you don't and it's obvious.
oh well, what can you really do.

 

[RobotRipping]

after the experience i've had, and after gaining my logic with age, I'd never take DXM again.

By the way, if you're taking delsym and paying the rediculous price for it, you should at least take the time to wash off the crap and get the pure dxm crystals, silly kidz.

I get HPPD-symptoms from mushrooms, especially if i eat a lot, or eat them multiple days in a row, I swear I will hallucinate and have the head-high still mildly for even weeks afterwards, and marijuana only blows this effect up more instead of calming me down.

Why the fuck do you kids take this shit, It's beyond me.
If someone offered me some right now I'd tell them I'd rather shit in a jar and get high off the methane.

edit: i just read where you say that you don't mean it's not a 'real' drug lol; still it's a lot of fun for many people. I've taken dxm many times over the years, usually for short periods, for me, it's amazing and everything you'd expect from a heavy psychedelic. If it weren't in cough medicine/stolen and abused by kids, i think it'd be a very respected chemical in the psychedelic community.


@OP: DXM for some reason makes you think that you have done permanent damage, it's the cloudy mindfuck. If your trips are lasting that long I have to wonder if you are taking coricidin or something, i've done so in the past (yes stupid, it will hurt you/possibly kill you) and those trips last at least 24 hours on high doses. The afterglow hangs around forever too, you'll be fine once your head clears. Pure dxm only lasts 8 or so hours for me.

 

[Devourer]

But if it's all they can find then you can't knock them. Perhaps they live with their parents and can't grow mushrooms.

Like you could even get away with being around your parents on that shit, lol.
They could just buy some acid for fucks sake, I'm pretty sure they can deal with thier parents on a couple hits FAR better than they would on DXM.
But at the same time I feel like someone who does DXM would fall for a non-lsd 'acid' fairly easily.
Happened to me once, but I was still at least somewhat happy I tripped, was prolly DOB or DOC, no clue really as that guy got arrested not long after.
He also happened to sell 2c-I as molly, and told people to snort it.... what a tool!

 

[CheapHighMan]

Like you could even get away with being around your parents on that shit, lol.
They could just buy some acid for fucks sake, I'm pretty sure they can deal with thier parents on a couple hits FAR better than they would on DXM.
But at the same time I feel like someone who does DXM would fall for a non-lsd 'acid' fairly easily.
Happened to me once, but I was still at least somewhat happy I tripped, was prolly DOB or DOC, no clue really as that guy got arrested not long after.
He also happened to sell 2c-I as molly, and told people to snort it.... what a tool!

Buddy...

judging by your posts you don't sound like you have much experience with DXM. Take it from me, you're missing the whole drug entirely. To begin with DXM is not very similar to Ketamine in the sense that it hits the PCP2 receptors while Ketamine does not. Also I know only one person who gets a DXM hangover and they lack the proper enzymes to metabolize it. Also judging by you're posts you sound like you're one of the 10% of the population who is also hyper sensitive to DXM. That would explain you're inability to function on it and the hangovers you get. Try taking half the dose you're aiming for and see if that helps. Please don't post inaccurate info

 

[Devourer]

Eh, I prolly am sensitive to the shit.
And when I did take it back in the day I would cut my dosage, but then at this point I wouldn't get past the first or second plateau and I'd throw up a lot.
So I can't really say whether it's sensitivity or not.

I do have a stomache problem that i've had since I was an infant.. and have a nice fat scar to prove it,
Essentially things bypass my stomache and go straight to my small intestine much quicker than they should, hense creating an extra MMMPH that most people prolly don't get by oral dosing.

I understand Ketamine and DXM are not identical, but that was my point indeed, as someone who has done DXM for ever is going to find Ketamine to be like the mother fuckin holy grail of dissociation.

And why would I ever be proud to "have experience with dxm" seriously, it's not even a true psychedelic, fucking codeine is more psychedelic than DXM in my book.

And i'm not the only one who gets DXM hangovers, just about everyone I know who does it complains of the general lethargy and shitty feelings they get the day after.

 

[LogicSoDeveloped]

I love it when people don't think there is a difference between MDMA and the shitty stimulant RC's. Like there are kids I went to school with that were equally happy with the research chems. I know there are people that enjoy the research chems but they thought they were just as enlightening/not unhealthy/etc. as MDMA and would take them every weekend. I've had a few or I'd be a bit more articulate.

 

[RobotRipping]

^MDMA at one point was a research chemical. Research chemical is too broad of a term, if you are comparing MDMA to MDPV, mephedrone and friends then I agree but there are plenty of research chemicals that will probably turn out to be just as safe if not more so than MDMA.

And why would I ever be proud to "have experience with dxm" seriously, it's not even a true psychedelic, fucking codeine is more psychedelic than DXM in my book.

And i'm not the only one who gets DXM hangovers, just about everyone I know who does it complains of the general lethargy and shitty feelings they get the day after.

dxm hangover or dxm afterglow? i enjoy the general lethargy, i feel relaxed and anxiety free and it goes away pretty quickly so that you can return to normal life without too much interruption.

you just had to say it, not a psychedelic? I certainly find it mind expanding, codeine doesn't really expand my mind, so it's hardly psychedelic by definition. You must know a bunch of sissies lol jk some people just enjoy different drugs than others. But when it comes to the definition of psychedelic, dxm fits perfectly.

The term psychedelic is derived from the Greek words ψυχή (psyche, "soul") and δηλοῦν (deloun, "to manifest"), translating to "soul-manifesting"

This certainly applies to dxm, feels like my soul is being ripped out and taken for a ride.

 

[Devourer]

I love it when people don't think there is a difference between MDMA and the shitty stimulant RC's. Like there are kids I went to school with that were equally happy with the research chems. I know there are people that enjoy the research chems but they thought they were just as enlightening/not unhealthy/etc. as MDMA and would take them every weekend. I've had a few or I'd be a bit more articulate.

See the problem here is that they don't even know it's not MDMA.
they refuse to understand that research chems exist or something, and if you offer it to them by it's actual name, they refuse to take it, because they've never heard of it, and don't trust you.
Though if you lie, and say a 2c is mescaline, a DOx acid, or some RC stim is MDMA, they're all for it.

 

[Devourer]

See, Robot Ripping, I've met god on DXM, talked to him for hours, but I could not say that it was a truely enlightening experience.. DXM seems more like a drug to just get fucked up and forget about life and reality as opposed to a psychedelic.
The reason I feel like Codeine has more psychedelic value is because I get the craziest trippy headhigh when I take enough of the stuff, borderline hallucinations it's like the only opiate i've ever enjoyed, and it's for that reason. (though I stay far from the opiate devils, for obvious reasons)



Also yes, I consider it a hangover considering how shitty I feel, yes you're less anxious that's for sure.. but it's a feeling of general "bleh" if that's the only way I can describe it, a lack of intelligence and focus, its always something I wanted to end as soon as possible but this relief doesn't seem to come untill the third day of sleep.

 

[RobotRipping]

^ to each his own lol, i've also talked with God on DXM, i found it to be enlightening, but i get what you mean, it's certainly not like your classic psychedelic. I take lots of codeine, don't really find the same. Less anxiety = euphoria for me, so that probably explains our differences. I'm completely biased here as i love dxm, and all drugs, i don't discriminate. DXM was also my first drug experience, so it holds a special place in my heart. I also only take dxm with antihistamines and cannabis, without them i hate dxm and would refuse it. It's not exactly safe but nothing else gives me that feeling, I don't use it any more, just gets me too fucked up but there's something special about it.

 

[Devourer]

Eh, the diphenhydramine high..
I could do without it, even when I take a regular dose of tylenol PM or something to catch some Z's I always wind up with that wierd hangover.. I also wake up and have mild night terrors while trying to sleep on it, though pass out immediately after waking up... hard to explain.. but not very fun.

A lot of dexxers around these parts mix DXM with dramamine, as they claim dramamine on it's own causes some sort of psychosis that DXM alleviates, also it adds a whole 'nother hallucinogenic experience to the DXM.
I wouldn't do this personally, but then again I don't even like dxm on it's own, and when I showed these kids 2c-P they quickly replaced the dramamine with it.

 

[CheapHighMan]

See, Robot Ripping, I've met god on DXM, talked to him for hours, but I could not say that it was a truely enlightening experience.. DXM seems more like a drug to just get fucked up and forget about life and reality as opposed to a psychedelic.

I'll agree with you on that one although DXM can still be enlightening most of the time what you get is just garbage. That being said I like DXM for what it is and I put it in a separate category then psycadelics.

 

[ozchems]

See the problem here is that they don't even know it's not MDMA.
they refuse to understand that research chems exist or something, and if you offer it to them by it's actual name, they refuse to take it, because they've never heard of it, and don't trust you.
Though if you lie, and say a 2c is mescaline, a DOx acid, or some RC stim is MDMA, they're all for it.

tell me about it.. jesus, you mention 2ce or 2cb is a research chemical when you're trying to sell it at festivals and they get scared by it! but give it a couple of years and it will be normality.

 

[MrGrunge]

Theres no denying it's an immature substance to abuse, I'm simply putting it out there if someone wants a clean psychedelic experience, that doesnt have such shitty lingering after effects, and prolly isnt nearly as bad for you - then they should try one of the other widely available psychedelics out there.

So what would be a 'mature' drug to abuse? Don't you think abuse by it's very nature is immature? I don't think there's any difference in the person who drops acid everyday and the person who chugs cough syrup...abuse is abuse. I know I'm not alone in my relatively-responsible usage of DXM (no more than once per week, highly-controlled and constructive trip settings, mental/physical preparation, etc), and it seems like kind of a dick move to generalize all DXM enthusiasts as middle-schoolers who just want a cheap, legal high. DXM has had a remarkable impact on my life: alleviating my depression/anxiety, helping me understand myself better, giving me the focus and drive to better myself. I've been experimenting with it for the past several months, and have experienced things which no other drug I've ever consumed has ever equaled in terms of significance and grandiosity. I wouldn't call it 'better' or 'worse' than acid, shrooms, or ketamine, but it's 'different'. It certainly has been the most visually-stimulating drug I've ever taken (never had DMT), not to mention euphoric and perspective-enhancing. While I agree that it isn't something which should be habitually abused (the psychological effects would certainly be negative), but I think it can be an effective "tool" for promoting a greater understanding of oneself and their surroundings.

 

[plusfourpirate]

im from the deep south too devourer.. and i run across real L and fire molly pretty regularly.

sure there are assholes in clubs selling m1(or worse) as molly, but fuck those ppl, to put it mildly.

and as far as kids selling RCs on blotter..those kids hang out at different places than my group of friends.

maybe youre just not looking in the right places? wish i could point ya in the right direction at least..

 

[plusfourpirate]

btw nice avatar mrGrunge! neutral milk hotel? love it..LOVE IT