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Kevinho

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Hi

The day before yesterday was the second time I've used XTC. It was a thrilling, awesome experience and I had no bad aftereffects or withdrawals. I've been seriously thinking about taking XTC frequently. However, I take my health and brain condition very seriously so I started looking up trustworthy sources with tips and useful information about the use of XTC. I plan on going to University next year, so I would like that my cognitive abilities remain rather intact. Especially since I'm only eighteen.

I ended up reading this http://www.thedea.org/neurotoxicity.html article. I came to the conclusion that the moderate MDMA user will not experience permanent brain damage or any other illnesses and, in fact, have the same normal brain condition as a non-MDMA user. I wanted to contact the author directly, but was linked to this forum.

The 'moderate' use of MDMA implies waiting atleast a month before taking on another roll. The period between my first use of XTC was half a year ago. I've been debating with myself about taking XTC next week again, but I fear that that is an irrational and foolish decision. Mainly because it's generally unhealthy for your body and brain, and secondly because a higher dosage is needed after you've been on a roll recently. Continuing this cycle would be asking for problems.

I also happen to occasionally enjoy the use of cannabis. It has been said that frequent use of cannabis may impair your cognitive abilities. So I wish to be extra cautious with the consequences of MDMA. This leads me to another question: is it safe to combine cannabis and XTC while being high on XTC ?

I wish to ask users whom have more experience or knowledge than me to share their experiences and thoughts.

Thanks,

Kevin
 
Hi Kevin,

First of all: You're doing the right thing by researching and thinking this much about harm reduction. Now to your questions:

1.) Yes 1 month is the often cited minimum waiting period. One important thing to always remember: it's a minimum, so a longer waiting period is always better, especially after a higher dosage. If you plan on taking it regularly, I would extend the period (so if you just take it on two occasions and have 1 month between them it's okay, if you plan on taking it every month for multiple years it definitely would be too much) If for some reason you slip up and for once don't wait 1 month, I wouldn't panic and think you've now melted your brain. But: I would try to NEVER conciously make a decission like "Okay I've always been responsible, now I can break this rule - just once" because that's how it starts.

2.) If you wanna role safely, invest in a testing kit! Since MDMA is becoming scarcer each day, the likelyhood of getting pills with some research chemicals in them is just too high to ignore. Research Chemicals can be fun too, but only if you know which one you have and that's never the case if you got it sold as XTC.

3.) It should be relatively safe to smoke weed while on MDMA. There's always the change for paranoia/panic with weed and it should also put more strain on your body, so don't overdo it.

4.) You should really respect the safer use guidelines with these substances. I've majorly fucked up on them which landed me in deep depression, treatment with antidepressants etc. It's not fun ;)
 
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Thanks for your reply.

One thing doesn't seem quite clear to me, though. You said that "If I plan on taking it regularly, I would extend the period" so if I take it two times (two pills) in one month and wait one month in between it's okay ? So 2 pills a month would be advisable for which period of time ? The problem is, the last time I took XTC, I had two pills. I first took a quarter of the pill to figure out what will happen and gradually took more. So I reckon I really shouldn't invest in the thought of taking xtc next week ? And taking XTC every month for mutliple year is certainly something I wish to avoid.

Sorry if I misunderstood something :)
 
No, I think I mixed up some words there...Okay, once again:

1 month between taking MDMA should always be the minimum break. And in at least 2 cases I would extend that period:

1) after a high dosage
2) rolling regularly so (like you said) once a month for a whole year does NOT happen.

Now, I don't think you have to wait 2 months just because you did 2 pills in one night. If you want to be on the safe side, wait 1 month or a little longer and then go for it.
 
I would also add into your thinking some pre-roll post-roll supplementation which may be effective in neuroprotection.
 
Would you care to elaborate ? I'm quite new to pre-cautions and general information on MDMA and I'd like to take heed of any advice that is given to me. :)
 
Kevinho said:
Are these available at a local pharmacy with or without prescription ?
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Yeah most supplements are available online or at typical health stores. However, the key to minimising damage is low dosing and minimal redosing. Keep doses between 100-250mg across an evening and neurotoxicity is relatively insignificant. The general rule here is once a month, but taking it more often than that isn't going to suddenly destroy your brain. Just be sure to not let your use become consistent. The problems appear to arise when people take untested substances, in high doses, weekly for sustained periods of time. If you feel like MDMA is causing you problems, take a long break of 2-3 months +.
 
Don't roll every month. Perhaps on some occasions, but I would recommend at least 2 months. Having more 2+ month breaks than 1 month breaks is ideal. I rolled monthly for 5 months and, although subtle, I was becoming a more depressed and anxious individual after every use. I now use every 3-4 months and am doing much better than I was before. It also makes rolling a special thing, and makes it all the more enjoyable than it already is.
 
When I started this year using mdma, I made it every weekend for 1.5 or 2 months. (I'm 24yo)
It was my first drug in my life, not even weed :P
Anyway, I researched after 2 months and found this site. Never happened any depressions or smth but i try to give 1 month btw each roll.
In summer, I used every weekend for 1 month and gave a break. It's like 2-3 months I'm clean. I won't use it till new years eve.
So you've to make a balance btw your usage.
But if you use every weekend, your tolerance goes up, I remember that I take a pill and couldn't roll just feel that smth was missing. (its physcological I know but it effects your roll if you search too much and believe everything you read)
Just respect to the drug, use it at least with 1 month break, use vitamins 5htp antidoxants and train&eat properly. You definitely feel much better!
(just don't forget to respect, beware of this is a chemical)
By the way, our crew use cannabis after xtc to extend the duration of xtc. I believe weed has an effect like this.
 
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