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Perfect K-hole conditions

imonfire

imonfire

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Just want to see what other peoples perfect conditions would be for a k-hole...

alone? setting? music? etc....


For me, lying in bed, alone, in quite a dark room but with enough light to make out objects where i could start to trip and see different things, i always like to keep my eyes open so i can see objects morphing and the room changing.

Also, (only for people who snort ketamine), whats your preferred method?

For a k-hole dose, do you snort all at once or have a few lines up each nostril?
 
For me, it's pretty similar to your conditions:

By myself in my bedroom, lying in bed, lamp on for some low ambient lighting, usually put on some Trip-Hop or slow music but not too loud because it can sometimes be a distraction.

As for sniffing it, just rack up the lines and sniff it in bits over 3/4 minutes (using both nostrils if both are clear). I've also recently found a "technique" which seems to help "boost" me into a k-hole. Once I've nearly cleared all of my K, I'll always save one last line and just when I start to feel REALLY ketty I'll bosh that down and I seem to k-hole pretty well. I have quite a large tolerance and this seems to help.
 
I usually start out in my chair so I can cut up the lines, and to set up the final play list of music. I also enjoy traveling to my bed as it really starts to kick in :D, it becomes an adventure, what can I say (night crawlers anyone :P?). But anyway, I usually have the room pitch black, with tunes sufficiently cranked up. My bed is filled with numerous awesome blankets and pillows, so it usually is the optimal location to drift away.

Some times I'll leave a small ambient light on, but really I prefer semi-sensory deprivation from a dark room.
 
I've never K-holed properly no matter how much was sniffed.

K intramuscular is the way to go. It is so much cleaner feeling and more psychedelic, takes much less. The conversion to norketamine is easily bypassed.

I'd still have time to prepare music and lighting after injecting ~120mg, then lay back, as it kicks in at about 3 minutes, but then gets stronger, and the k-hole is inevitable by ten minutes.

As for background, pink floyd pulse #1 was always my favorite, or a few of the originals from that. Dim light, eyes closed, horizontal with maybe a pillow.

What wonderful adventures I've had. Too many, but its been so long I'd like to return. No more phillipines envelopes coming :(

I've found that with psychedelics (2C-E in particular) just 50mg IM was enough to K-hole, and very colorfully. Usually k-hole visions are dark and static filled, but psychedelics really help that out :) Supposedly, Dr. Olney says, that combining K with psychedelics and certain other drugs makes it less likely to suffer NMDA-ant toxicity.
 
NMDA-ant toxicity? what a load of horse piss... We are not talking about mk-801 here.

Recreational doses of ketamine have never been reported to have any form of toxicity associated with it. Not mention ketamine is neuroprotective substance (certain forms of course). If you really are concern with any sort of NMDA-ant related toxicity you can take a low dose of diazepam, certain anti-cholinergics, and even 5ht2a agonists like LSD (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9408919).


I wish I could IM k. I would just be afraid of having my usual vasovagel response to the injection. I wouldn't want to dull the experience with a benzo, so not sure when that will happen.
 
My preferred way of taking k is by snorting it. Generally ,starting off with one large bump or two, depending on my mood, then as that begins to kick in I take a larger bump and then so on. I don't usually do it in lines because I find that it goes by alot quicker that way... I enjoy listening to different types of music, generally different types of psy trance and techno music..I was playing my guitar after doing some once and it was a sensational feeling. For me, it goes really well with music which is why I like it.
 
I'm almost positive a vasovagal response to a needle prick would be blown right away by the ketamine comeup...
 
Yeah, I think it could be fine, especially if Im lying down, just closing my eyes, but at the same time, the vasovagal response can last for up to 10 minutes in my experience. I find ketamine to be pretty anxiolytic, but there have been times where I still have experience myself having uncontrollable shakes even when my mental state is very solid (it was pretty weird, I felt amazing but there was peripheral anxiety). I just don't want to have the experience potentially turn to shit because of the come up. Even anticipating getting shot will jump start the process. Also, I have had a small seizure during a vasovagal episode. Yeah, ketamine can prevent seizures, but it can also increase the likely hood.

It is an experience I want to try. Just not sure when I'll have the balls to go for it. I especially can't imagine giving myself the shot (just thinking about it makes me get a small response). One of these days...
 
Devo_ said:
I've also recently found a "technique" which seems to help "boost" me into a k-hole. Once I've nearly cleared all of my K, I'll always save one last line and just when I start to feel REALLY ketty I'll bosh that down and I seem to k-hole pretty well. I have quite a large tolerance and this seems to help.
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I can relate to that, i usually have a few lines within a few minutes of each other and as soon as i feel myself edging toward a k-hole, i have another line and im good to go.
 
I've also noticed that the K seems to come on stronger when sniffed through my right nostril. It may sound strange but it does lol. Anyone else find that or is my mind playing tricks on me?
 
id usually be sitting on a pillow on the ground, in my room. with a television on. seemed like a waste trying to snort large lines over and over with little effect.. proceding to play super mario world.. should have spaced out the dosings and did something else. like mixing it with lsd.. a drug which i ignored and got carried away with the k
 
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Devo_ said:
I've also noticed that the K seems to come on stronger when sniffed through my right nostril. It may sound strange but it does lol. Anyone else find that or is my mind playing tricks on me?
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My right nostril seems to be more open inside than the left, so I always use that one. I probably should alternate. I try, but I don't get as high and it hurts near where the nasal cavity meets the throat.. which is uncomfortable.

As for conditions.. if I'm alone, I get a drink and some food (It's weird but I like to snack on k =D ), clear my bed and set it up, grab my plate, k, and a straw and set all that shit up, get comfy, and have at 'er. that way I can k-hole comfortably and in peace. And eat chocolate :) num.
 
A hefty dose plus much sensory deprivation. A floatation tank could be used like John Lilly did, though I did not find it such a huge success and felt some distractions from it (perhaps the dose needed to be significantly higher).

Lying in the dark is great but I am not sure if I would consider silence ideal, I have holed very well with a much more beautiful transition in and out with the guide of impossibly deep music, industrial, minimal, noise or drone like in nature.
(Yeah you should definitely check drones)
 
Solipsis said:
A hefty dose plus much sensory deprivation. A floatation tank could be used like John Lilly did, though I did not find it such a huge success and felt some distractions from it (perhaps the dose needed to be significantly higher).

Lying in the dark is great but I am not sure if I would consider silence ideal, I have holed very well with a much more beautiful transition in and out with the guide of impossibly deep music, industrial, minimal, noise or drone like in nature.
(Yeah you should definitely check drones)
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I find if i listen to music, i can gradually hear the music becoming weirder and weired the more i fall under the influence, it gets slower and reminds me of a time when i was younger at the dentist, where i had 'happy gas' to put me to sleep, however i remember being semi-conscious, hearing trippy music in the background whilst spinning on the dentist chair(looking back, the best damn trip i've ever had! lol)

Some of the best k-holes i have been in have consisted of lying in bed, watching a music concert on my laptop in a pitch black room, i find myself sinking into the computer and becoming almost inside the concert, as i fall heavier under the k however, i lose all track of thought of what i am watching and drift off to different places
 
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