Peptides (CJC, MGF, Frag-HGH, etc)

rafter said:
what can i get for $200/mo. as far as a cjc/ghrp combo?

i am 6'2" and 190, would i see excellent results at these rates?

thanks
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Depends on where you get it from and how much you buy. I'm looking at anywhere between $70-$100 a week, consuming about 2mg of CJC a week. GHRP-6 is a lot cheaper than CJC.

Buy in bulk, and you could get good doses at $40-$60 a week. So you can get optimum results if you look into buying in bulk.
 
p-mo said:
Victor: you gonna run any AAS with your CJC combo?
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Yep, just waiting for one more ingredient for my recipe to come in...and I'll be ready to start cooking! %)

Will look like this:


100mcg of CJC-1295 & 200-300 mcg GHRP-6 3X a day = 6 months minimum
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1gr test enan ew 1-12 (12-14 prop)
800mg test prop weeks 1-2 & 12-14 = 4 weeks (frontload)
50mg dbol ed 1-5
800mg EQ ew 1-14
600mg Decca ew 1-10 (mainly to help me with my joints)
(some tren acet as well perhaps...not much, bc decca and tren together can be too much)
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100mg Proviron ed 1-16
500iu HCG eow 1-14
LIV 52 & milk thistle...1-18
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Colomid, Proviron, & HCG for post...Nolva if I need it, usually don't though.

If you have not run at least 5-6 AS programs in the past and do not have much AS experience under your belt, the above doses will more than likely be too much for you to use. This will be something around my 10-12th time in the pit, and I have been training for over 10 years.

So, if you are 18 and weight 140 lbs, DO NOT FOLLOW MY PROGRAM! This is for ME, and will be too much for the novice user to handle. I've run the above program several times before (minus the CJC/GHRP) so I know what works for ME.

The CJC combo will amplify the effects of my AS program, and I will get much better gains. My goal is to increase strength, add mass, and finer definition. I hope to add a solid lean and clean 30 lbs. of permanent muscle when all is said and done. Slin would be great to use as well for mass, I'm just not a fan of using it...too dangerous.
 
Larr_E said:
So one pill every morning with my usually cocktail of pills should be cool. Thanks for all the help man. I just orderd all my stuff. Hopefully all this works out for me...
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it depends on what your usual cocktail of pills is.

A warning about acetylcholine esterase inhibitors (and drugs that mess about with the acetylcholine axis in general): they can have pretty noticeable effects on your temperament...I have found they are much more likely to make people more twitchy emotionally...little things that would piss you off or make you happy do so to a greater extent.

So, be careful that you don't change your personality for the worse just to get some theorized (and unsubstantiated) GH effect.

Growth hormone is notorious for having many unfounded rumors floating around about it.
 
question: why wouldn't you run peptides with you AS cycle? I have never run test or the rest (heh) and am not near ready yet in my training to do so, but I've messed around with peptides a little bit and am really impressed with them. Apparently they also really max out when run with lots of good test.

Is there any reason why a person wouldn't do this? (some negative feedback or something?)

IGF + CJC1295 seem to be the best possible combination. I imagine your IGF levels would be fucking sky high with this combination, causing proliferation of new muscle cells and QUICK maturation (with the test flooding through your body).
 
I really appreciate all the great info on this thread, and am getting ready to run my cjc cycle here in a few weeks. My number one goal is to put on size, and to keep it on, hopefully by creating new cells. I'm running a 45mcg/kg dose, with huprazine a, for 6 months. What can I expect? My diet and training is on the money. I know I'm going to lose fat, but I'm already sitting at 7% bf right now, so I can't lose too much more. Is 10 lbs muscle achievable here? 5 lbs? Don't want to get greedy, thoughts?
 
If you are not looking to ADD mass to your body, I wouldn't run AS with them. All depends on what your goals are.
 
ok, so if you were running a steroid cycle not for mass gains, then you wouldn't be interested in GH-releasers?

Growth hormone still is very good at fat burning and joint recovery/health.

(did I get you right there?)
 
If you are NOT running an AS program for mass, you are running it to cut.

GH will help you if you want to cut or gain mass, pending on your doses. Lets use HGH for example, if you are looking to cut, IMHO....3-4iu ed would work fine. If you are looking for mass, I'd use 5-6iu ed, some use 10iu.

You are correct, GH works wonders for cutting fat and for recoveries from injuries etc. There are many more pros, anti aging, better skin, better sense of well being etc.

But, to cut, I would not use the above AS that I listed in my program. I would use AS like test prop, winny, T3, and some clen (on and off). So yeah, GH is good all across the board, IMHO.
 
question: why wouldn't you run peptides with you AS cycle?
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Well until now most peptides have been fairly short lived in the body. ED injects aren't appealing for people due to the possiblity of scars or infection (I know your gonna be using a slin pin so neither should be a problem.. but people worry). Plus if its your first/second cycle you'd wanna see how your body reacts to the AAS.

Also running HUGE dosages of IGF isn't the best way to go. Most peeps say that going past 120mcg/day of LR3 isnt too wise (think GH gut and ape-looks). Prob the greatest mass combo is Test+Anadrol+CJC/HGH+Slin. Could imagine 30+lbs from a cycle. Easy. :D
 
p-mo said:
Prob the greatest mass combo is Test+Anadrol+CJC/HGH+Slin. Could imagine 30+lbs from a cycle. Easy. :D
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+1, that combo would yield amazing results done properly (with some EQ as well). ;)

You could also you dbol instead of Oxymeth. Slin is some dangerous shit, but if you know what you are doing, go for it.
 
I understand I would get 10x the results if I threw some test and other aas in there, but the situation I'm in I will get tested for that kind of stuff, that's why I wanted to do the best I can to get mass with the cjc and Huperzine A.
 
can a cjc/ghrp combo in low to medium dose bring almost the same, say 80%, results, compared to if AS were used in addition?

can cjc/ghrp only(without AS) do 20lbs muscle fiber gain in 1 yr (new cells and hypertrophy)?

also, where can cjc/ghrp be found at the lowest cost?

thanks
 
From what I gather, I don't think anybody should be recommending insulin to anybody else. Just way too dangerous to be tossing it out there as a suggestion.

what about: test/deca/IGF/CJC1295

Continue IGF and CJC1295 into and past PCT (some people report gaining during their PCT with IGF!)
 
rafter said:
can a cjc/ghrp combo in low to medium dose bring almost the same, say 80%, results, compared to if AS were used in addition?

can cjc/ghrp only(without AS) do 20lbs muscle fiber gain in 1 yr (new cells and hypertrophy)?

also, where can cjc/ghrp be found at the lowest cost?

thanks
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My research would dictate no, not for BB purposes. Depends on your weight as well.

Besides, you don't want to run CJC/GHRP for more than 12 weeks at a time. 1 year is too much. I'm going to run it for 6 months, but I will stop and use HGH after week 12 for 2 months, and than continue again for another 12 weeks.
 
From what I gather, I don't think anybody should be recommending insulin to anybody else. Just way too dangerous to be tossing it out there as a suggestion.
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Oh I'd in no way recomend it to anyone. Personally I wouldn't touch it...
 
aces11 said:
I understand I would get 10x the results if I threw some test and other aas in there, but the situation I'm in I will get tested for that kind of stuff, that's why I wanted to do the best I can to get mass with the cjc and Huperzine A.
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I hear ya. Test enan has a detection time of 3 months, where as test prop has a detection time of only 2 weeks. I don't know your situation, but it's something to consider pending on how you get tested. Test is REALLY important when wanting to add mass using the CJC/GHRP combo. I know people who use test PROP for the simple reason that the detection time is 2 weeks (and 3 day 1/2 life). It's a bitch to hit though, it's the most painful of all the tests out there, IMHO.

I have not seen any proven results with Hup A. So don't bank on it doing all that much in terms of adding mass. I could be wrong, but I have yet to stumble across a study with conclusive results.

So if you can't run any test at all, all I can think of is to bump your protein and calorie intake up.
 
And as for slin, unless you are a pro BB and rely on winning contests to feed your children, I'd stay away from it at all costs. I've been BB for 12 years, and have seen many guys fall hard on that shit, I never touched the stuff.

You REALLY have to know what you are doing. The risks outweigh the benefits by a long shot. Taken wrong, it can kill you. No need to say more, that's the bottom line.
 
what about the safety and higher risks with taking huprazine with cjc? Is there anything I would have to worry about when combining the two? My levels will still go back to normal after the 6 month cycle is done correct? Any info would be great
 
aces11 said:
what about the safety and higher risks with taking huprazine with cjc? Is there anything I would have to worry about when combining the two? My levels will still go back to normal after the 6 month cycle is done correct? Any info would be great
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Hup is just a mixture of Chinese herbs and plants. I have not seen it doing any harm....or anything at all for that matter. Like I said, I have not seen any study to show if it is effective.
 
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