Opioids People who both snort and IV their opiates

[Egeo_consilii]

Hi all, I have been looking for this information for quite ahwile now (3+months) on various different message boards, especially here on my favorite (BL of course!), and I have been highly unsuccessful at using the search engine to find it (google, BL search, etc), so I decided: perhaps this is rather an unorthodox way to take my dose. So here it goes:

1.) Does anyone here BOTH snort and IV their opiates? For example, I usually have access to Opana ER 40mg (Oxymorphone), Dilaudid 8mg (Hydromorphone), and Roxicodone (30mg). What I do is this: I begin my day shooting 16-24mg of dilaudid IV. If I'm feeling particularly saucy, I'll immediately insuffilate a further 20-40mg of Opana ER. The rush is always good (but no legs with the dilaudid!), so to give it that extra kick I'll snort the aforementioned.
Will the snorting of the Opana affect the "rush" I get after waiting 4-6 hours since I did that Opana?

2.) In my experience, the rush is indeed diminished. However, of I waited longer, how much longer ought I wait? I know snorting lasts longer. My question ia regarding snorting anything at all. If I want to achieve good rushes every time, should I make my day a "dilaudid only day", and simply wait until the next day to do my Opana (so switch up days instead of doing them side by side?

3.) if I do decide to snort say 40mg of Opana, but DON'T shoot my dilaudid, how long should I wait before I give myself an IV of dilaudid to feel the rush from that?

4.) I apologize for the long post, but I can't seem to condense my questions (haha my English professor would be proud-adding all this fluff lol), but I have been having so much difficulty finding ANY answers to my query, that I thought this would be the way to go. This is my last question:
~An hour ago I did my usual shot of three 8mg Dilaudid (after waiting 6 hours) and got the desired rush. Then I snorted 40mg of Opana. Right now, no nod in sight. I really really would like to finally get a nod. I have a surplus (okay can one ever really have a surplus )of dilaudid. If I want to get high, should I inject more Dilaudid or snort more Opana Er? Or should I shoot an Opana IR 10mg? I know the rush won't be there, but will it perhaps give me a nod?

I love the harm reduction on this site, and am a big supporter of it. I definitly know my limits, so
I know what I can handle, but I hate wasting product, so, in sum, my question is this: which of the three aformentioned pharmaceuticals ought I take to increase the effects? snort the ER, short Opana IR, or shoot more dilaudid? Any responses regarding my questions would be super-greatly appreciated! Since I have a hard time finding any information pretaining to snorting AND injecting opiates. If I
Missed anything, of my post is way to confusing, please don't hesitate to ask me for clarification; I'd really like to hear other people's opinion on this!

Thanks Again

- Timotheus Egeo Consilii

 

[muvolution]

snorting opies isn't going to be much different, as far as duration, than shooting them. The only thing that could account for longer duration is a thick coating of drug in your nose, or lots of drip. The half-life either way should be within 10-15% of IV.

glad to hear you aren't IV'ing the Opana ER.

 

[Egeo_consilii]

Hi there muvolution, it's been ahwile since I've been on the message board due to a lack of a stable Internet connection (good thing it's back now, I love BL. Thanks for the quick reply; as always geat advice. Yeah, I gave up on IPA EXTRACTION of Opana ER's a long time ago-toooo risky even withy 22 micron filters. So, if I'm understanding you correctly, even though the half life of snorted opana er is quite a bit longer than IV dilaudid, if I were to, say, wait my usual 6 hours between doses of IV dilaudid, I would still get a rush? What I mean is, if I snorted 40mg of Opana ER, would I still have to wait 6 hours before I could IV dilaudid, or could I do it sooner and still feel a rush?

 

[Egeo_consilii]

Also, and I totally forgot to ask, in your personal experiance, can one shoot Opana IR after shooting dilaudid and still reap any of rush or at the very least feel an increase in effects?

 

[muvolution]

When I had both available, I would dose them at the same time (I always had IR Opana, so I combined it into one shot) to reap the amazing Dilaudid rush with the legs of Opana.
Opana has a highly-variable half life, so I would see what works for you, but I, personally, would aim for more like 8 hours between OPANA doses.
Also, I can sit there and shoot Dilaudid every 30 minutes and get a rush every time, all day long. Obviously, the longer you wait, the better the rush will be.

 

[Egeo_consilii]

Okay, that sounds like an excellent idea actually! I will definitly try that in the future. However, say I only had Opana er and dilaudid: if I snorted some Opana er at 8am, how long would I have to wait (on average, I know there are numerous personal factors such as weight, metabolism, etc), to feel a good rush? 6 hours? 8? What I'm asking I suppose, is: does the longer half life & rate of absorption of Opana er affect the ammount of time I need to
Have between doses? So if I wait only 6 hours between shots of dilaudid to get a rush, would I have to wait even longer between doses of snorted Opana and my
next shot of dilaudid?

 

[muvolution]

well oxymorph has a significantly longer half-life than hydromorph, so yes, you would. If you are going to snort the Opana, why not bang a little D first, then snort the Opana?

I find that the "rush" from Dilaudid maxes out at about 8mg (when I do 16 or even 32 (WARNING, DO NOT ATTEMPT, THIS IS A LETHAL DOSE FOR MOST PEOPLE) it doesn't feel like a stronger rush than 8, just way more nod)

 

[lorne667]

Well I know why you are not getting much from the opana. Injecting 24mg of DD would give me a fucking orgasm, yet snorting 30mg of opana ER literally doesn't even take me out of DT's. But then again, I don't get anything from snorting the er's anyway; the shit just gels up in my nose, with almost no effect, and yes, I crush it up just fine, it just doesn't do anything.

And muvolution is right. The half-life of IV and nasal is pretty much the same, though in your case, the Opie ER's have weird properties, that make them take a while to absorb. Oh how I wish I had some delicious hydromorphone right now...(or a goddamn opana that I could fucking bang!!!)

 

[pb2003]

Damn man sounds like you got yourself a good set up of opiates! When do you use the roxies in this whole process you're trying to get down?

If I where you, I do what Muvolution said..... Mix the dillies and the opana IR into one shot. Hell you probably wouldn't have to use as many dillies in one shot as well. Also you could add some 30's to you morning dilaudid shot...

If you where feelin really adventurous you should add a 30, an IR, and some dilaudid all in one shot! Idk if there are any dangerous things that could come out of this opiate cocktail but I wouldn't think there would be anything wrong.. Hell if I had a good supply of what you said I would have a damn hay day with all that haha. Good luck and for heavens sake be careful, you got your hands on some strong and potentially dangerous goodies. But have fun wit it!

 

[Egeo_consilii]

Oh yeah, haha the mix of all three is a great combo. I find that the legs from the Opana and roxi, plus the rush from the dilaudid gives one of the most incredible experiences in one shot. Definitly hurts the wallet though, i keep those times to special occasions only . Muvulution, I'm
Interested in hearing more about this ceiling effect of which you speak. I've heard that actually from a good may people, actually, and I was wondering if I've been wasting my product since I almost always do shots in that range? Is the rush identical if I do 1,2, or 3 (my average right now)?

 

[muvolution]

I don't know, I mean the rush from even 2mg of dilaudid is sooo strong... I think it increases logarithmically, topping out somewhere around 6-8 mg.

 

[uno22]

do you think there is any risk involved in what you are doing? i'd be scared shitless to shoot that much drugs

but sounds like you have the hookup

 

[Egeo_consilii]

Yeah ive been fortunate enough to find a reasonable goodhookup (bitter-sweet though, since my tolerance has all but skyrocketed in the past few months, no matter how many "tolerance breaks" of 2+ months I take. Haha oh well...suck is life. Interesting...but I suppose every one of us has a unique physiological makeup, so everyone if different (very good advice earlier Aboit harm reduction though, for sure. Ib fact, inbefoming more and more confused. So let remake sure (I promise, this is my last hypothetically- aimed question for the night lol). My experience it that the rush expotentially increases during my first shot of the day, the more mg if Dilaudid I do. A nod if sorta beyond my reach, unfortunately). But I have sometimes done 1.5 8mg tabs, and I found the rush significantly stronger, but the high thereafter to be the same. Any thoughts on why this might me happening for me?

Also, how would one go about doing a 32mg shot? I only have 1cc syringes, so how much H20 would I need to dissolve 4 of tge generic 8mg dilaudid pills? (white with an 'M' stamped on one side; triangular in shape)? Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated!

 

[muvolution]

1mL.

don't kill yourself dude. If you aren't nodding from dilaudid, I wouldn't double or quad your dosage. Just isn't safe.

 

[Egeo_consilii]

No worries, I do 3 per shot every morning, bit I always notices so much goop (since these are the generics-I wish I could find the yellow K4's, those are a real treat!). But thanks a lot, I suppose Hydromorphone is very water soluble after all.

 

[mainvein]

yeah i usually snort a line of dope first to get a nice calmer (not a huge rush, basically) high so that my hands aren't shaking when i'm fixing my shot. what i like to do is take a medium-sized line, fix a smallish shot of dope, feel the rush for a bit then fix another shot. i like breaking up my doses into smaller more frequent ones instead of doing a couple of bigs ones daily because it's more manageable to me.

on my days off though, i'll fix up some nice shots and nod off like crrrazy. it's just that nodding off at work and school (this happened two days ago in my psychology and computer science class, haha) isn't too acceptable.

 

[i gotthecottons]

personally i think the rush is about the same anything above 8mg's...but i am sure this all depends on the person.

 

[opiatekrzy]

is it just me or is IVing hydromorph a waste of time and energy? all i get it an intense LITERALLY 3second rush, then it disappears, no after effects, nothing..shitty drug IME

 

[RunRunRun]

Yes. Anytime you have any amount of opiates in your system, your rush will not be as strong. I would wait 6 hours or as long as I can after snorting the om er. I would always start of with the iv then snort. That way I get the full affect of the rush. But since you have a surplus, I know how hard it is to avoid doing or to wait a while if you have nothing to be doing and have a pile of pills. I have regretted iv'ing something shortly after a previous shot so many times because I did not get the desired rush.

 

[IndustrialStrength]

I don't know, I mean the rush from even 2mg of dilaudid is sooo strong... I think it increases logarithmically, topping out somewhere around 6-8 mg.

Not to dispute your personal experience but this effect must vary person to person.
I personally IV'd 10mg of Dilaudid the first time I did it & was greatly underwhelmed by the rush.
My next experience was 16mg which was decent. Following that a few days later I did 24mg.
24mg was a much better rush imo. Though I don't really get a high per say as Hydromorphone seems to have no legs.
Just to note I was dope sick each time I did the Dilaudid so opiates in system weren't an issue.

Though personally I find the rush from IV Oxymorphone to be as good or better than Hydromorphone.
The legs aren't the greatest but they're longer than the Hydromorph for me anyways.
Just figured I'd throw that in as apparently people's experiences differ in this area.