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People that Exaggerate their Withdrawal Symptoms

Tommyboy

Tommyboy

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I know we all know a person or two that play the sick card more often than not to try to get some (extra) dope out of you. I don't know if they are really just more sensitive to withdrawals than others, or if they actually know what a real kick is either, but they act as if we are not all in the same boat.

I have a neighbor with a way smaller habit than me, and he is always saying that he is sick, and asking if I can hook him up with something until he gets his next script, at which time he promises to take care of me. I just know for a fact that a bag of dope is more than enough for him to get high, compared to my habit which required 3-4x that amount (plus I IV compare to him sniffing) yet he seems to be sicker than I am when he comes to me begging for a bump.

If I don't have dope or a means of getting any with my current funds then that's it. I sit back with my legs kicking, and take the withdrawals head on, with maybe some OTC meds to help, and some clonidine if I'm lucky. I don't see the point in getting a little bit only to prolong the withdrawals, and with a habit as minor as someone like my neighbors I don't get why he doesn't just kick already.

He gets a script for 120 30mg oxycodone IR's and sells the majority of them within 5 days, only to be spending the next 25 days buying opiates/opioids for probably more than he sold his for, and also getting some spotted to him with the promise of paying the person back with the pills once he sees the doctor. With his low tolerance he could just take a pill a day (he only needs 1 pill to get him high), skipping a day here and there, and he will have enough to never be sick plus be able to sell some as well. I guess that just makes too much sense.

Well enough about this particular person, I want to hear about the junkies in your lives that come crying to you saying they are sick in hopes of getting a sympathy bag or something. I've also seen this practice done so they can try to get an extra bag when everyone goes to cop, since they "need it more than you do." I'm sorry but just because I can manage my drugs better than you, and/or can handle my withdrawals better doesn't mean that you are entitled to more dope than me when we go to cop.
 
Lol, WOOPS. 3 years ago, when I used to dabble in heroin (used about 2-3 times a week for about 2 months), I would always tell one of my buddies I was sick and withdrawing to get a free point here and there:\ Feel bad about it now
 
Tommyboy said:
I'm sorry but just because I can manage my drugs better than you, and/or can handle my withdrawals better doesn't mean that you are entitled to more dope than me when we go to cop.
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Yes yes yes!!

I used to hang with this dude. One time we went to go cop and got a bundle, with 3 of them going to someone else. That left us with 7 bags, 3.5 a piece. I was already being absurdly nice and was paying for like all of our dope because he let me crash at his place for a couple months. That's a whole nother story. Anyways, so we each got 3.5 bags. Well we get back to the house and he has me go wait at the bus stop for his kids while he goes upstairs and fixes with the other person we copped with. Already annoying as fuck but I did it because I didn't want the kids to be scared when no one got thm at the bus stop. Well after I'm done fucking fixing his kids a snack, I go upstairs. He did 1 bag and then gave me 3, even though we were supposed to split the extra bag. So I was already pissed. Then he tries to claim he lost another bag somewhere in the room, so he wanted me to split one of mine with him. I got on my hands and knees and looked for it, trying to make him admit he was a liar. Obviously never found that bag (shocking). So then when he does the rest of his within the evening, he keeps bugging me to give him some of mine. Just because I was managing the time I waited better and he blew through his, he was suddenly entitled. So when I did my last bag he was so pissed. He was like "well I guess I'm just gonna be sick all night". Dude, you alread took an extra bag from me and I paid so really it should have all been my dope!

Same dude, different occasion. I was extremely low on funds so I was saving up cottons to make a cotton shot. So one morning he's used all his up and asks me for one cotton. One cotton. There's not enough on a cotton to get you out of withdrawals, and it was just gonna be a waste. We fought about it for hours until I finally gave in. But he always had me fix his shots and hit him so I just took 2 of his cottons (which I told him was the agreement, but he didn't think I'd actually do it) and I'd short his shot sometimes because he was just such a little bitch. So I'd save some of his so when he begged me later I just gave him his stuff.

Ugh. He was seriously such a whiny bitch. Like suck it up, we're doing the same amount and I'm 60lbs lighter so you're not feeling worse than me.
 
One of my pet junkies knows not to ask for my pain meds. I finally wised up to the "sick" thing. Juts less than an hour ago, I was supposed to pick her up so she could "hang out" and stay with me.

Blew my phone up all evening wondering when I was coming to get her. She accepted the rule- do not ASK for ANY of my scripted meds. Right before I headed out the door, she asked. I told her she blew it and hung up on her. Several more calls and texts she realized she blew it and apologized.

It took awhile, but this dumb ass trick wised up.
 
I try not to exaggerate the withdrawal symptoms, but on one or two occassions I have so as to get a couple bags on loan. I've payed those loans back, and so I never feel bad about it, but yeah... guilty.
 
I used to score n chill with this other junkie chick and she was so annoying! We would hustle up some cash, go cop and she would always come up with a story why she needed more, etc. and when wed go fix shed do all of hers then bug me for mine. Fuck you thats my wake up! Why should I be sick cuz you cant plan shit?
 
I would do that to my brother just to bust his ballz, cause he sniffs and seems to make his last all day while I IV so it's one shot---done. Think it's easier to stretch it when you're sniffing cause you go for the high and us mainliners go for the rush & the trip to the Land of Nod...He'd bitch but usually hooks me up...guilty as charged, lol
 
well junkies will learn to do this to get a wash/free fix from people. "i'm not well! you know how it is!" then again i've seen people so sick they shot up on the street to avoid vomiting and shitting everywhere so it's just the person and situation.
i honestly thought i was going through clonaz withdrawl once and it was just that once being fucking that time. i went to the shitty hospital where there was an understanding dr. and he basically said it was in my head for now because it was a 20 hour half life and then gave me a new script anyway. some intern from the military, still has his uniform on. probably had more empathy for people seeing fucked up shit in wherever he was stationed.
 
I did that shit back when I was 18, but only because one of my strange 55 year old heroin addict friends that me and my childhood friend somehow spent our teen years growing up with, repeatedly said he'd pick up for us (and we always made sure we put out money for him too) and came back about half the time. Sometimes oddly enough we'd run into him about three days later after the fact and he'd then give me the dope he owed me, but I realized if I pretended to be sick (which is kind of easy, I'm one of those people that can freakishly vomit at will, and I'm also at least 20 lb's underweight, pale, and sick from something or another anyway) he'd usually return.

However, what drives me nuts is that now I got this other guy from my old neighborhood, another 'old-time' dope fiend, (who I honestly think is a real nice guy) that IS ALWAYS asking me for a few free bags everytime he catches me copping (we unfortunately go to some of the same people). I honestly don't like to see people sick-and I WILL give someone a bag, or even more, as long as I still have enough for myself (and even when I'm kind of short I still often make the stupid mistake of being too generous). I always get the same answer from this guy TB, "I'm getting my check next week-I'll hook you up then", which of course is bullshit.

My philosophy is this-if you can afford to throw a bag/pill(especially in the case of someone with a benzo habit), than do it-it's the right thing, and since a vast amount of our society seems to care little whether we die from HIV/AIDS or accidental overdoses, we do have a responsibility to try and help out our fellow struggling addict. Yeah, it could be seen as enabling, but we all know how being sick is-not having the means to cop can really fuck someone up in just one day, they can lose they're job, they might get so desperate that they go out and commit a crime, etc. I'd rather throw a few bags and keep someone straight for a day rather than force them into drastic measures to just get 'well'.

However, that is fucking bullshit. I don't mean to dicksize, but if I could not only maintain, but also get high off of 30mg of IR oxycodone a day, I'd scream and cry out of happiness, and then give the pills to someone with a real habit, and buy a box of loperamide or maybe one 8mg Suboxone strip for the short and easy going withdrawals that would dissipate within a matter of days.
 
I just realized that I have exaggerated my withdrawals a few times, but it was to get my dealer to deliver faster which I don't feel bad about doing at all, since we all know how some dealers like to take their sweet ass time, so chances are I may actually end up in withdrawals between the time I place the order and the time I end up getting it (it's actually just 1 of my current dealers that is horrible with timing, and the other two are actually decent with it as far as dealer time is concerned). So I'm in withdrawals just like they are "5 minutes away." ;)

Znegative said:
However, that is fucking bullshit. I don't mean to dicksize, but if I could not only maintain, but also get high off of 30mg of IR oxycodone a day, I'd scream and cry out of happiness, and then give the pills to someone with a real habit, and buy a box of loperamide or maybe one 8mg Suboxone strip for the short and easy going withdrawals that would dissipate within a matter of days.
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Well that's the other thing, he had access to suboxone, so he was really taking advantage of the situation since he wasn't just trying to get well, but high too, otherwise he would just take the suboxone. Hell, he would probably get pretty high off the suboxone, so he would be better off taking that anyway.
 
I have never exagerated my withdraws just to get more. Yes I know plenty of people that do it but to me that's just childish bullshit. Suck it the fuck up.

When I'm really that sick ill go to a good friend of mine an tell em an be honest an tellem hey look I'm fuckin sick I need somethin an when I get $ an cop ill pay ya back. That's it. An since I'm ask for help from a good friend they always help me.

But yeah I hate them fuckers that lie about they withdraws to get more. Thing is my habit is bigger than almost most people I know so when I could handle almost all day withdrawin from shootn an someone pulls that bullshhit on me I'm like fuck off. If anyone needs more drugs its me. An that shit don't work. Every now an then ill hook someone up with an xtra bag cuz I know their situation an that life is shittn on em. But that's a rare thing.

Yeah talk about makin yer drugs last. I ain't gonna lie these dumb motherfuckers out here shoulda at least finished high school. Talk about dropouts these ppl are fuckin dumb. For example they get their paycheck on Friday. By Monday its gone, they withdrawin an out askin for fronts. Ya see what I'm sayin. Oh they wanted to get high. No problem get high Friday. But pullin every weeknd the same binge an then bummin $ an drugs an askin for fronts all week to get by now that's just downright fuckin retarded.
 
Cadamec said:
One of my pet junkies knows not to ask for my pain meds. I finally wised up to the "sick" thing. Juts less than an hour ago, I was supposed to pick her up so she could "hang out" and stay with me.

Blew my phone up all evening wondering when I was coming to get her. She accepted the rule- do not ASK for ANY of my scripted meds. Right before I headed out the door, she asked. I told her she blew it and hung up on her. Several more calls and texts she realized she blew it and apologized.

It took awhile, but this dumb ass trick wised up.
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You make me sick..
 
Yeah there's plenty of people that can't budget their supply, I'm guilty of it, i get my weeks worth of goodys and end up blowing through it in a night, i've since then learned to give it to my gf so she can dispense it out to me at a more reasonable rate, anyways, heres the situation i hate most, you get a buddy coming up to you and complaining how sick he is and you offer a sub to set him straight and they refuse it!! They'd rather hold out and try to cop their doc off you, rather than take the damn sub and be good! "ehh I'm sooo sick!"..."here, take a sub"..." Oh noo, I'd rather have the other stuff".. well who the f*** wouldn't? At this point my empathy for this person vanishes quicker than the lines on my mirror!
 
I used to front people if they were sick, but after never getting paid back, time after time, I discontinued this practice, now the only people that i will help out, are the people that either have helped me out in the past, or i know that they would help me out if the situation ever arose, but you know what, sometimes people need to go through w/ds in order to come to the realization that they need to make some drastic changes in their lives.. as they say, withdrawals are the gateway to sobriety..
 
I never loaned out dope to people that exaggerate withdrawal symptoms. I knew the people had little shit habits and got scripts so they were only looking to get high, not get right. Only people I used to give free shit too were three friends of mine I used to cop with all the time, only because they ALWAYS would help me out. I wouldn't just get them right, I would get them right and then some because they had pretty big habits and even though mine was a bit smaller, they always looked out by getting me right, getting me high, and just being good people in general.
 
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