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PEA for a first timer

I'm actually thinking about a longer one being a possibility if the time and weather allows it.

I loooove 2c-b though I've only done it once at around 25mg (20mg initially and 5mg at peak). I would really love to get ahold of more. The visuals are insane.

So would 2c-c be a no? Thought it might be cool to continue the alphabet.
 
Mike E said:
An overestimation was observed on 2CB-Hbr salt. 40mg was observed. Some did 2 units and reported a teryfing place!
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Well of course there might have been a little bit of craziness with that one....

20mg is a good starting point with 2c-b for most people.....

I have seen someone incoherent at a little over 20 though. People react differently.

That is one of the things about the 2c's that i have noticed.... A lot of people seem to lose their ability to form coherent thoughts and sentences after a point...
 
A few comments:

-2CE is extremely intense, and I would definitely not recommend someone try it for the first time in public. I know people who have had intense, ego-shattering experiences on 15mg. Then again, I would definitely never want to try *any* psychedelic for the first time in public.

-In my experience, 2CE lasts longer than 2CI at the same dose.

-Many people get more 'headfuck' from 2CE than any of the other 2Cs you listed.

-Many people find 2CE one of the least 'comfy' 2Cs. It produces less euphoria and more stomach discomfort for me than 2CI.

-While I haven't tried either, 2C-C and 2C-D seem like the closest 2Cs to what you describe. 2CC in particular seems to be described pretty consistently as having a pleasant, comfortable body high and a pretty tame headspace. 2CD seems to have slightly higher doses and lower length, so that may also be desirable.

Basically: 2CE would be my absolute bottom recommendation of the group based on the properties you describe.
 
2C-D was my first psychedelic drug, and I was quite pleased with the experience. I did do it in a public place (local park), but luckily it was mostly empty of people. I took 40mg orally, but if she has some prior experience, I'd say go for 50 or more mg.
 
No PEA experience has she but I doubt that will be an issue. I'm leaning towards 2cc now. It just seems right. What with 2ce bein a bit long and possibly uncomfortable it will have to wait. I'm actually thinking it might be kind of cool to just do them in alphabetical and numerical order just for the hell of it. I think she might be game too.
 
I before E, except after C

Sorry i just had to say it....

Go for an actual psychedelic experience. 2c-i is pretty damn easy on the mind while still being obsenely visual. taking enough to be tripping visually as hard as 20mg of 2c-i on acid.... My brain felt much more fried after the acid trip.

Its comfortable, about 8 hours, not disagreeable with erotic, no apetite loss, outstandingly visual. I before E man.... 2c-c and 2c-d are from what i hear just kind of meh..... If your going to eat psychs with the intention of tripping, you might as well just jump in....

I didn't give it to them directly but i did give 20mg caps of 2c-i to a friend and they gave it to some people who had never done anything crazier than pot. While they couldn't really handle it, they weren't freaking out, a couple ended up speaking gibberish but they all had a great time... I suggest starting with 15mg unless they are feeling ballsy though...
 
Well, I would say, test out a low dose of 2c-e, as that is really a fantastic chemical. I know girls in the 120lb-150lb range that had wonderful experiences off of 10-14mg of 2c-e 'respectively'

But if I could suggest a PEA that would be best, I would have to 2C-T-2, as that is the most gentle, and fairly short acting PEA that I've ever done, and is my favorite as something to come back to!
 
^^ I have a lot of experience with psychedelics and 10 mg of 2C-E is great for a night out of town and is more than subtle. But for a first time on 2C-E with someone without a lot of experience wit psychedelics it can be uncomfortable.

My girlfriend didn't enjoy doing 2C-E out in public one of the first times she did it. The first time she did 2C-E was in the comfort of our home and was very enjoyable, but the 2nd time we went to a fairly crowded bar with all of our friends and she thought she looked fucked up. Paranoid, cuz she looked completely fine and was acting fine, but she felt uncomfortable. This was on only around 10 mg of 2C-E as it was her 2nd time and we titrate slowly with new compounds. She ended up having to leave the bar cuz it wasn't fun for her.

She did 15 mg of 2C-I for her first time at a bar and al though she didn't get many visuals at this dose she felt completely comfortable and said she would have done a more visual dose around 20 mg next time. 2C-I is a lot more recreational I find, but we haven't had a chance to try out any of our 2C-C or 2C-D, so those may be a better choice, but finding the right dose with those ones is harder. 20 mg of 2C-I is a pretty consistent psychedelic dose for a first timer, so if you want reliability I would say go with 20-25 mg of 2C-I.
 
Decided on 2ci. Going to encapsulate 2 20mg doses when I get home in a bit. First time I get to use my scale since I got it! Planning on waking up, getting stuff together and dosing when comfy. Would like to watch the sunset at the beach if possible.

I have OTC sleeping pills to combat the insomnia which from what I read is probably going to happen. (please confirm)
And 20mg should be good for first time? Not to much heady? I wanna have fun :) it's been a long time since I've had a psychedelic experience.

Edit-would it be a no no to check out an apartment while on this? Gf says it's
awesome. And food is ok? Gotta eat sometime.
 
if your OTC sleeping pills are diphenhydramine 25mg, then it will be perfectly safe to combine with 2c-i. in fact, i like to combine 25mg DPH with 2c-x to take the edge off the nausea and stimulation on the come up as it doesn't really cloud the mind too much at that mild dose.

20mg is a good first time dose but i would suggest you try 1mg just to rule out any allergy reactions. i prefer to dose 2c-x before 3PM as it allows me to get to sleep around midnight.

i find that 2c-x give me a knot in the stomach that makes the idea of eating somewhat strange, but it's entirely possible to eat while high. depends on the person and depends on the food. i have successfully eaten spicy ramen noodle soup on 2c-t-7 (notorious for gastric problems) without incident. you may want to start slowly with an apple :)

going in public won't be too difficult, but be aware your pupils will be the size of delicious double-D areolas.
 
each pill is 25mg DPH. you suggested taking one before come up? it takes two to sleep. might take three though, it didnt counteract the LSD headspace last time i used them.

so i guess its settled then, 2CI tomorrow :) hopefully i dont have another issue with my balls like last week. pretty sure itll be ok, the human body is amazing.

will post trip report when i can.

:)

p.s. anyone heard of the issue with the iodine (right atom? im very new to this) atom that makes it a risky to ingest? i read a trip report on erowid http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=39567 and am curious as to how risky this stuff actually is. i understand there isnt enough information on these fairly new RC's to warrant any concrete evidence in many areas. is there any leads on these type of things? personal experiences?
 
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morbiddoctor said:
I'm actually thinking about a longer one being a possibility if the time and weather allows it.

I loooove 2c-b though I've only done it once at around 25mg (20mg initially and 5mg at peak). I would really love to get ahold of more. The visuals are insane.

So would 2c-c be a no? Thought it might be cool to continue the alphabet.
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if you have more time, 2c-i would probably be the most visual and manageable in public.

If not, of the ones you listed 2cc and 2cd are the shortest and can be handled in public easily.
IME 2cc is a bit stronger of a trip and more visual than 2cd but i seem to be in the minority with that experience.

2c-e is very visual but can come along with a pretty strong head trip. Id recomend trying that one in a secure environment your first time.
 
morbiddoctor said:
p.s. anyone heard of the issue with the iodine (right atom? im very new to this) atom that makes it a risky to ingest? i read a trip report on erowid http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=39567 and am curious as to how risky this stuff actually is. i understand there isnt enough information on these fairly new RC's to warrant any concrete evidence in many areas. is there any leads on these type of things? personal experiences?
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The guy in the story, B, had hypothyroidism which explains all his symptoms (fatigue, weight gain, etc).
It was not 2c-i related. The iodine does not detach from the 2c-i. Or something along those lines, i remember someone smarter than me saying before.:\:)
 
^ya I know he had hyperthyroidism but was just wondering. You can never be too careful. Thanks for clearing that up.

@delsyd Ill get to 2ce next. I think I'd like to have a more classic headtrip with a PEA sooner than later. There are just so many compounds out there to taste! I'll proabably get to that in a few months. My buddy has never done LSD and I'm pretty new to it as well. So I'll do that first.
 
The DPH is making me have a very uncomfortable reaction. I took a half of one (12.5mg~) right before ingestion of 20mg 2ci.

How do I make the DPH feeling go away? I still feel like I need to puke but I want to sleep but can't. I'm really physically uncomfortable. Really cloudy head.
 
In my experience, a small hit of cannabis takes the bodyload of DPH away, other than that, I dunno how much you can do besides wait it out.

Thats why i never take DPH, especially after my reckless days of taking bigger doses for "fun". You might want to try Meclizine, its great for nausea and it has never given me any drowsiness or that terrible twitchy-cant-get-comfortable feeling
 
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