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sooo my gf wants to try a Phenethylamine. she is somewhat experienced with psychedelics (mushrooms 4 times, lsd once, and shes a big pothead). i am pretty experienced with them (LSD, mushrooms, DXM, DMT, 2c-b, mescaline, LSA, ayahuasca).

of the 4 i have right now, 2C-C, 2C-D, 2C-E and 2C-I, we are searching for the perfect one. something with more visuals, shorter duration, comfy, not to much headfuck and something to be in public on. we've shortened it to 2C-E, 2C-C and 2C-D. 2C-I is too long.

now, im not asking what should i take, because i'll figure it out myself. im wanting to know your personal experiences with the aforementioned requirements. which one seems more likely to have all those attributes? we have a few things to do today and i want to make sure we can take care of them while exploring something new.\

thanks.
 
personally I would think 2c-e, in my experiences with it it has had wonderful visuals, however it's allowed me to keep a clear mind while tripping. Careful though, I've heard 2c-e can be too much for someone with not much experience, though I personally wouldn't know.

Also, Ayahuasca? Why would you wish to do that? I heard the purge was horrible.
 
I assume 2c-e would be a little intense for a public setting, but I havent dabbled in it myself just yet.

I hear wonderful things about 2C-C for these kinds of situations.
 
Cybion said:
Also, Ayahuasca? Why would you wish to do that? I heard the purge was horrible.
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really? ayahuasca is amazing! it changed the way i use psychedelics and look at myself and those around me forever. i can honestly say that without ayahuasca id probably still be a douchebag using asshole. the purge isnt horrible but it can be. after you've puked 4 times and shit 3 in less than a half hour, its fine. i know that sounds weird but you begin to welcome it because its good for you.


i kinda of wanted to start with 2C-C anyways just because 2C-B was first for me. still not sure but getting closer to a decision.

any recommendations on the mg dosage of these? we want to get acquainted with it but no let down but not to much.
 
If you have experiance with tryptamines then phenethylamines shouldnt be a problem. They are very mentally clear headed compared to tryptamines, easier to hold yourself together. Though, I would reccoment mescaline, as it is amazing, in my opinion the true phenethylamine. A very romantic, visual, euphoria yet mild trip! You can get the legal cactus online, I recommend peruvian torch.

2C-C and 2C-D will probably be underwhelming, and 2c-i isn't too long-- about 8 hours. 2C-E may be a bad start with phenethylamines. Mescaline is long, however I doubt it'd ever get overwhelming.
 
Wow, maybe I'll have to give it a try at some point.

for 2c-c I'd say somewhere between 25 and 30 mg. that's a common dose for it. as for 2c-b I'd say 20-25mg
 
yourtman said:
Though, I would reccoment mescaline, as it is amazing, in my opinion the true phenethylamine. A very romantic, visual, euphoria yet mild trip! You can get the legal cactus online, I recommend peruvian torch.
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I looove mescaline. im wanting to try it again. i used san pedro and some peyote thrown in when i did. youre right, it is beautiful. its very dreamy. unfortunately i have none right now, only my 2C's.

she accidentally ingested 2C-E when i was transferring to vials last week. not much but enough to get a bit sweaty and have some visual sharpness.

shes now wanting to go to the beach for the sunset. should be a good night.
 
also, i may need to take some painkillers. you see, im healing a body mod i got two weeks ago in a very sensitive part of the body (large hole in my sac). it isnt really a huge pain right now and is doing much better from even three days ago.

opiates dont interact negatively with PEA's do they?
 
Naw, but I think they'd take some special things from the experiance, maybe not want to combine with 2C-C, it'd probably be fine but because of its sedative. Maybe try to hold off and take if you need?
 
^ thats a good idea.

we determined im not taking anything today. Had an issue come up. ):
thanks for the input guys, maybe next week for me.
 
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I'd say for short duration & being in public 2c-c or 2c-d would be the best candidates. 2c-e is just as long lived, if not longer, than 2c-i. 2c-c is really the only halogenated 2c that i like (only had 2c-b once, and of questionable purity). 2c-d is a bit more mental than 2c-c, IIRC, its been several years since i've had 2c-d. The all round "lightest" one out of those would probably be 2c-c. The visuals on it don't get really interesting til you get up past 30mg oral, for me & most others. I personally found the sweet spot to be around 60mg, but YMMV. 2c-d was my first 2c though, and it is a pleasant mild psych in low doses and a full blown one in larger doses (+50mg). 2c-c doesn't seem as if it gets into the true psychedelic headspace, but is still very enjoyable.
 
2C-B for sure, it has such a malleable headspace that i can see it going really well for a first-timer. it would be especially fitting if the OP is looking to experience psychedelic visuals, as ive found it to be one of the more visual psyches out there. on the downside, it tends to be less "rewarding" than something more heady like 2C-E or good old L.
 
I suspect it could find itself in better demmand.

And it is easier to observe.
 
I would certainly have 2C-B be her first if it weren't for these two things:

-I've done it and want to try something new and
-I do not have it in my possession nor do I know where to get it.

We really wanted to try something with more of a visual flavor than anything. I'll
have to heal a bit more until I can partake though. Maybe the next week or two. Still haven't decided on anything (to try) just yet though.
 
In my experience, you cannot obtain more striking, yet short visuals with 2C-B.
 
2c-i is only like 8 hours and its generally kind of easy on the brain for how crazy your hallucinating.

I have given people who have never tripped on anything 20mg of 2c-i, it rocked their world, a couple of the newbies lost their ability to speak coherently but they all had a great time and came back to tell me how awesome it was after they finally found words. This was also at a mostly dark neuro psytrance/dubstep party.....

20mg is a lot for most people even if they have done a lot of hallucinogens, i have done 2c-i, 2c-e, 2c-b, DMT, ketamine, DOB , DOM, MDMA, MDA, mushrooms, DXM, and LSD. 20mg was on the edge of a little bit too much for me.

I have gone balls to the wall on most of these as far as dose is concerned. 20mg was a lot of 2c-i for me. Fuck, i dosed a friend just because i was tripping way too hard to not have someone on my level to keep me from getting naked and swimming in the river.

15-17mg of 2c-i was where i found myself to be in an awesome place. It was enough to make things visually interesting. I was fucked up but functional and i was so happy that i had the urge to do cartwheels around the party....
 
An overestimation was observed on 2CB-Hbr salt. 40mg was observed. Some did 2 units and reported a teryfing place!
 
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