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Buphedrone of all things.. its not an empathogen or an entactogen.. or anything worth it.. just a plain ol' stim

I was hoping for a tryptamine like MET or even the ever so elusive DET.. but Buph, wtf really?
 
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I wish I wasn't $30000 in debt or I would just leave all of this. I want to run far, far, away from this modern world we live in. If it wasn't for that money ending up needing to be paid by someone (my parents) I'd leave right now. Hunter gatherer life is where we need to be.

This year for me has been the biggest change of my life and the most eye opening. Its really led me to want to defect from the "human" life that exists. I'm continually disappointed by people that I just want to get farther and farther away from them, and it is sad because currently I'm working on trying to get close to people. The more I talk with people, the more I see what these people are doing or believe in the less I want to be apart of this.

I need to smoke some weed ahhhhhh
 
Cloudy said:
I wish I wasn't $30000 in debt or I would just leave all of this. I want to run far, far, away from this modern world we live in. If it wasn't for that money ending up needing to be paid by someone (my parents) I'd leave right now. Hunter gatherer life is where we need to be.

This year for me has been the biggest change of my life and the most eye opening. Its really led me to want to defect from the "human" life that exists. I'm continually disappointed by people that I just want to get farther and farther away from them, and it is sad because currently I'm working on trying to get close to people. The more I talk with people, the more I see what these people are doing or believe in the less I want to be apart of this.

I need to smoke some weed ahhhhhh
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I feel you totally. Don't let the flame go out. Go to rainbow gatherings and tribal gatherings of sorts...
 
Cloudy said:
Hunter gatherer life is where we need to be.
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I heartfully feel this as I'm sure you've gathered form my recent posts. :)

Walk into the woods with some few basic supplies form the modern world until you get settled and can fabricate your own tools. For example; bring a rifle and ammo for the time being and learn how to make a bow and arrows. Bring a shovel to plant a garden, buckets and barrels to transport water, etc.

I really feel that is the only way to survive in the long run. The planet can't handle the way we're treating it. It can't support endless fields being pounded with fertilizers and GMOs to feed vacuous cities. Those fields were once life filled forests; never forget that.

This year for me has been the biggest change of my life and the most eye opening. Its really led me to want to defect from the "human" life that exists. I'm continually disappointed by people that I just want to get farther and farther away from them, and it is sad because currently I'm working on trying to get close to people. The more I talk with people, the more I see what these people are doing or believe in the less I want to be apart of this.
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I also sadly feel this. I want to get closer to people but all I see around me is how out of touch people are with a natural, mammalian way of life. I want to get closer to people but I want to get closer to people in a natural community that lives off the land and isn't caught up in all the soul crushing stuff we call modern life.
 
^I say get close to people any way you can while you're here on this Earth, its really the most important thing. Being a human, other human beings are the most important thing in the world.

I don't really see heading off into the woods being any type of solution; I mean, there will still be an exponentially large number of people continuing to ruin the planet while you're off in the woods. At least when you live in a community with other people you can shine a little bit of your light into their world and maybe if we all did that we would get closer to solving the worlds problems. Its really easy to say "well this world is fucked, I'm heading off to the woods" but it takes epic balls to live in a fucked up horrible world to try to fix it up a bit-- even though logically you know its probably too little too late.

Meh, its a shitty hard decision whatever you choose anyways.
 
Buphedrone isnt this another disaster waiting to happen? Toxicity profiles aside, this stuff is supposed to be quite potent. And might be bought more by the kind of person who eats grams of empathogens / stims that doesnt own an mg scale. I hope this turns out to have a gentle therapeutic index otherwise start writing the first ODtuary.
 
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Meh, its a shitty hard decision whatever you choose anyways.
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Yeah, I know. Honestly, if nuclear war doesn't break out or the infrastructure doesn't collapse I'm likely not going to head off into woods other than a vacation. If something happens and the stomachs start getting empty I'll gather those close to me and head off though.

But yeah, for the time being, I'm still getting paychecks deposited into my bank account, watching good movies, and talking to you fine folks on the internet. ;)

One thing I am doing this spring or next fall (depending on when is the better season) is start transplanting seedlings from the old growth hardwood forest to the empty hay field. :)
 
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regarding buphedrone:
If it has as much to offer as mephedrone (empathogen/entactogen) it will certainly be a keeper (it seems im in the minority that finds mephedrone as therapeutic as MDMA can/used to be). If its just a plain old stimulant than i can do without it.

as for dropping off the grid and living off the land.
I was thinking alot about this while bordering on the edge of slipping into a k-hole (basically i was tripping pretty hard off K but not in the hole).
Ideally its what i would want to do and preferably with a small community of like minded folks, but society still seems like something we would need.
We would need it to go buy bullets for our weapons, buy things we cant make but need (shelter, clothing, drugs etc) and other things society has we cant find in the woods (musical instruments, books etc).

My plan is to eventually be living in some sort of middle ground between the two.

For all you guys interested in droppping out and living off the grid i recomend you look up a documentary called "Off the Grid: Life on the mesa" and a movie called "Into the Wild."
Both are very good and cover this topic pretty well.
 
I've been trying to convince the girlfriend to move out to the middle of nowhere for years, but it's not been all that successful yet. :\
 
So love*lite got to go see Phish tonite while im stuck at work. :(

On the bright side i have some ketamine waiting for me once i get home.
Im thinking of starting the night out with a nice 200mg IM shot.

Im just debating whether i should take some mdma with it or not.

what do you guys think?

with mdma it will be a shit ton of fun and the khole will be more memorable and euphoric.

But on the downside i will end up staying up later and being run down tomorrow from rolling tonite.

advice?
 
^I'd just slam the ket and leave the MDMA, but thats just me. In fact, I would LOVE SOME KETAMINE rght about now :D

Fuck, I'm so glad these w/ds are clearing- stomach is sore, feel a bit chilly, bit weirdly nervous, but also really qute elated.

PepperSox, be careful of the phenibut- i'm not one to talk BUT- it worries me to hear you say "need" in regards to it. Please take it easy...:)
 
Re: RC's. I've got me lfetme stash whch may consst of 2C-E, 2C-D, DOC, 2C-B, 4-Ho-DMT, DMT, DMT , DMT, DMT plus some small amounts of other nicities (2 "types" of MET, some DPT, some 4-Ho-DiPT etc_. I cant be fucked gettng involved in it anymore. Its odd- I used to really wanna try everything, but now not at all. It wouldn't bother me if the stash I do have vanshed, this year I've mainly used mushrooms, DMT and acid; which, in one way or another, will always be "there".
 
Hmm, this song is fucked up:

WARNING: Suicde Themes


I don't think I can justfy this shit really; i know its just a video clip but the band ae relatvely well known (ie. in Europe) but me thnhks this is ether really fucked up or just plain childish.
 
I must say Iprocin never really appealed to me; even HIGH doses. Maybe orally isn't that great...probably had 10 tries at mit, up to maybe 25-30mg's...Which should have floored me, but just made me feel like I was on a lesser form of K and DMT at once....
 
i found iprocin to feel very "sexy" (kind of like imagined foxy to be like).
and i love the short duration.

ive only had 2 exoperiences with it. Hopefully future tries will be just as rewarding.

So rather than mdma what about a smidge of 2cc or 2cd to go with the K?
i know K is great on its own, but i love the little twist even a low dose of a psychedelic can put on it (and it esier to recall the experience when tripping on something else.)
 
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