☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Tripping Past 2020

[Kaden_Nite]

Flutoprazepam, a benzodiazepine manufactured & marketed solely in Japan. Due to tightened regulations, I thought I'd never get to taste this stuff again. It became a favourite of mine last decade due to its' consistency and 200 hour half-life and recently became available again.

Just vaped some hash oil and I'm currently melted into the furniture.

Today, I tried a largely unrefined extract of San Pedro cactus and was pleasantly surprised at the quality compared to acid-base extracted mescaline, which tends to be a cleaner, clearer high, but can leave certain attributes behind.

Different, but equally good.

 

[Psychestim]

10mg 2C-T-4 down the hatch to test the waters.

 

[tired of crap]

10mg 2C-T-4 down the hatch to test the waters.

Enjoy!
I never got to try 2ct4. It disappear domestically right as I realized the clearnet markets were a thing, albeit much later than most lol... Glad I was able to try other 2c(t)x's before they vanished before the ban here.. even if I dont find them as intriguing as most, they were something I had fantasized about since finding erowid in high school.

 

[Pfafffed]

10mg 2C-T-4 down the hatch to test the waters.

Bon voyage! That was one I was curious about once upon a time, as well. That and 2C-T.

And yeah, @tired of crap, I ended up finding that some of the 2C-x class that I had most longed to to try weren't quite as remarkable as I had thought they would be when I first tried them in high school. The one that really surprised me, though, was 2C-T-2. For me, that one is a gem.

 

[Psychestim]

I didn’t expect much from such a low dose, but it’s actually very pleasurable. Not much is going on visually, but definitely a nice body high and a dreamy headspace.
I still feel like its on the rise though and its been nearly two and a half hours since I took it.

 

[islander20]

Bon voyage! That was one I was curious about once upon a time, as well. That and 2C-T.

And yeah, @tired of crap, I ended up finding that some of the 2C-x class that I had most longed to to try weren't quite as remarkable as I had thought they would be when I first tried them in high school. The one that really surprised me, though, was 2C-T-2. For me, that one is a gem.

Way back in the day I had to choose between 2c-t-7 and 2c-t-2. Picked T-7 due to reports of a lighter bodyload and enjoy it but I have always longed for T-2. Maybe one day shulgins work will be resurrected....

On a hopefully more positive note how was your experience with aMT? One of my favourites

 

[tired of crap]

2C-T-2. For me, that one is a gem.

Yes, out of the ones that I had tried (2c- b, e, i, t2 and t7) that one stood out for me as well.
It has been quite a few years since I have tired it

 

[porkstock]

What made 2c-t2 stand out for you compared to 2ce?

I got kinda scared of the 2c-t series after reading about deaths from 2c-t7 I think. And then a few years back I read about deaths from 2ce, although I’m not sure if it was confirmed to actually be 2ce and not a case of mislabeling

 

[Xorkoth]

I have always preferred 2C-T-2 to 2C-T-7, personally.

Always wanted to try 2C-T-4, my friend was going to give me his and then the cops got his stash, and then another friend was going to send me his, but never heard back from him.

 

[tired of crap]

Been a long time since I have had any of the series, though I still have a number of doses of each in storage... so forgive me if my descriptions are rather vague but... 2ce just seemed rather placid to me, both mentally and visually, unless insufflated, never tried IR. Admittedly it was a nice journey, yet not what I expected given it was in Shulgins magical half dozen and some glowing reports online). 2ct2 seemed more well rounded in both regards, and the bodyload and nausea, which some reported to be unbearable was only slightly more present than then with 2ce yet seemingly more worth it based on the experience. Edit: when compared to 2ct7, the nausea of t2 was gone after purging whereas, for me i experienced nausea all throughout the t7 experiences)

(And before the doubts about the quality of the product, friends tried half of what I would take (for 2ce) and reported other worldly effects... yet others reported effects similar to my own)

 

[Xorkoth]

2C-E seems to fall into two camps in terms of effects with people... one of them (I'm in that camp) reports absolutely magical, extremely strong effects and those people find it to be among the most valuable and powerful tools we have, and too strong to be easily recreational, and the other camp finds it less potent and very easygoing and recreational.

 

[ecstacylover]

Just ate 23mg 4-HO-MiPT. It's 68 and sunny here—absolutely gorgeous weather—about to walk down to Monterey beach and watch the waves.

First time trying it at a full dose so I'm pretty excited, plus I think the last time I had a full dose of a 4 sub was back in like 2015. I was originally going to take 20mg but it always feels auspicious when you weigh out a slightly higher dose (irrational, I know). Anyways, at this dose 4-AcO-DMT was always pretty disorienting for the first couple hours and 4-AcO-MET much less so, so I was kind of expecting something in between that. I'm going to put a smidgen of bromazolam in a water bottle just in case though. I also took like 700-800mg phenibut FAA but I've been taking that the past couple days. Off I go!

 

[Pfafffed]

What made 2c-t2 stand out for you compared to 2ce?

I got kinda scared of the 2c-t series after reading about deaths from 2c-t7 I think. And then a few years back I read about deaths from 2ce, although I’m not sure if it was confirmed to actually be 2ce and not a case of mislabeling

For me, they're very different. For one, 2C-E is a real mind warper. 2C-T-2 isn't that. At low to moderate doses, it's like a grounded mescaline, focused on emotions, relationships, love, connection, and social/community domains. The visuals are detailed and pretty, if not all that dramatic. I like mescaline more; it's more healing, natural, and mystical feeling. It has a real magic to it. 2C-T-2 doesn't. It's matter of fact and practical by comparison, but that's not necessarily bad. It's also way shorter, which is helpful. I'm more likely to find time to use 2C-T-2 to sort out a thorny problem in my life than I am mescaline. That's a real commitment.

 

[Pfafffed]

I had such an interest in trying AMT when I was younger but it really was not around. I guess I still could. Keep us posted Pfafffed on duration, body load, blood pressure, etc... Let us know how the ride goes and how hard it is on the body.

I posted a report here: https://www.bluelight.org/xf/threads/amt-40mg-20mg-rectal-first-time-shouldve-known.912603/

 

[Kaden_Nite]

After a weekend deep in Japanese benzo wonderland, punctuated with a little mescaline, hash oil and a tiny spot of Sunday night dissociation, I decided at random to take some 4-EMC after work.

Definitely woke me the fuck up and the music in my headphones sounds like the kind of stuff a cheetah would listen to.

A cheetah.

 

[simstim]

Bon voyage! That was one I was curious about once upon a time, as well. That and 2C-T.

And yeah, @tired of crap, I ended up finding that some of the 2C-x class that I had most longed to to try weren't quite as remarkable as I had thought they would be when I first tried them in high school. The one that really surprised me, though, was 2C-T-2. For me, that one is a gem.

The second "research chemical" I tried was 2c-t-2!! I don't recall the dose (we didn't have scales that claimed to measure in milligrams back then). I do know that both times I wasn't disappointed.

I always wanted to try 2c-t-7 in high school because of murple's posts on erowid. Unfortunately it was already illegal by the time I came across some 2c-t-2 as a college freshman.

 

[simstim]

After a weekend deep in Japanese benzo wonderland, punctuated with a little mescaline, hash oil and a tiny spot of Sunday night dissociation, I decided at random to take some 4-EMC after work.

Definitely woke me the fuck up and the music in my headphones sounds like the kind of stuff a cheetah would listen to.

A cheetah.

How do you like the 4-EMC?

I had some back in 2011 or 2012. I didn't really care for it too much, actually. I was expecting it to feel like 4-MMC, but instead it reminded me much more of methcathinone. I always wondered if it was because I was on citalopram at the time, however I have read about people having good times on 4-MMC while taking SSRIs.

Did I miss out? It could've been set and setting too. Most of the time I did it I was working on computers after hours in offices. It was pretty jittery and stimmy which is why it reminded me of methcathinone more than something rolly like 4-MMC.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

How do you like the 4-EMC?

I had some back in 2011 or 2012. I didn't really care for it too much, actually. I was expecting it to feel like 4-MMC, but instead it reminded me much more of methcathinone. I always wondered if it was because I was on citalopram at the time, however I have read about people having good times on 4-MMC while taking SSRIs.

Did I miss out? It could've been set and setting too. Most of the time I did it I was working on computers after hours in offices. It was pretty jittery and stimmy which is why it reminded me of methcathinone more than something rolly like 4-MMC.

I found it quite relaxing and rolly actually (oral dosing that is), I only had half a gram once and took 2 doses at a house party, the effects turned out to be quite empathogenic.
I much prefer 3-MMC and 4-MMC though

 

[simstim]

I found it quite relaxing and rolly actually (oral dosing that is), I only had half a gram once and took 2 doses at a house party, the effects turned out to be quite empathogenic.
I much prefer 3-MMC and 4-MMC though

I never tried 4-EMC orally I don't think. I broke my own guideline about preferring 4-MMC orally. I found 3-MMC to be pretty good orally and nasally when I got low on my stash and used it nasally to stretch the last few doses out.

Have you tried 3 or 4-CMC yet? I have not, but thought 4-FMC was pretty decent. At the time 4-MMC and bk-MDMA were dirt cheap so I didn't feel the need to try more than a few grams of 4-FMC. It didn't quite stack up to those, but at least in my experience of 4-EMC with an SSRI it was more similar to a roll and less jittery. It was probably the SSRI.

I missed out on allof this you know, ultimately. No mad allergy shit 2005 onwards...because in 2011 UK where the legendary, IMO now Dutch located, Green giants were based, operating in/out of UK, but my allergies made it impossible.

Though at the time, nobody made me aware of the clearnet homologues which not surprisingly on paper, being non todic really, especially with the mini doses, plus physically inaffectong but not really.

Because in 2011 onwards, old friends were loving the availability.

No crazy deprivement, I would no odd freakand likely among you all here, diverse experience of all these compounds.

So it's been quantity (of quality) vs ensured wide range all and all like a proper psychonaut lol.

I don't feel cheated, deprived though. LSD is a good fucking drug.

It can be a phenomenal tool for consciousness alteration and through time continual developmental work.

And the other drugs are nice too.

So I do make the best in that regard.

I do need to cut down though. I am. I realised, it's bettervto have a clearer head right?

One day at a time. I pannicked thinking my head had slipped this time. Maybe not wuite phew, tbs.

Hope ypu are well my mate @Buzz Lightbeer ilghtbeer .

I've pretty lost my head just recently but there was phenomenal stressful incidents so it's very understandable but you've been completely sound always since I've joined this forum with everything you have expressed to me personally and just generally.

I appreciate you man that's all I'm saying.

I think you probably deserve to rest and have a break. Good for you for doing that!

I finally realized I had to give rolling a break again. Rolling for days on end for months straight is probably not the best idea. That and the stimulus money finally ran out

 

[porkstock]

I would say that I liked 2ct2 better than 2ce, too. Maybe it was just the novelty of it being my first psychedelic phenethylamine, or maybe because I only got to try it twice. I dunno.

Both times it was so heavy that I puked once and then just laid in the floor listening to music and talking with friends or watching a movie. I felt like I couldn't move almost.

2-ce made me sicker than a dog every single time. It's still the psychedelic phenethylamine that I have the most individual experiences with. I tripped through a gram of it 15-20mg at a time back in 2010. Blah!! Puke after puke after puke.

Sheesh, there must have been something about 2ce that you liked in order to eat a gram of it
I ate it over 20 times and puked just once...think that’s my only time vomiting on a psychedelic