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I took 140mg last year with a friend during lockdown, the duration is insane, 6-7 hours in it still feels like you're peaking with no end in sight.

The batches before that were different, I felt that they were a little better qualitatively, but due to impurities you had to go much higher in dose, like 180-200mg for a strong roll. It had either a lower or higher amount of 5-APB in them and maybe some impurities impacting effects, what is it, 4-APB in there generally?

Anyway great memories, but for sure not something I'd embark on on my own.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
I took 140mg last year with a friend during lockdown, the duration is insane, 6-7 hours in it still feels like you're peaking with no end in sight.

The batches before that were different, I felt that they were a little better qualitatively, but due to impurities you had to go much higher in dose, like 180-200mg for a strong roll. It had either a lower or higher amount of 5-APB in them and maybe some impurities impacting effects, what is it, 4-APB in there generally?
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My sweet spot with an older succinate batch was 125mg, which should be ~63% 6-APB & ~12% 5-APB according to my lab-result (it was quantified as the HCl salt though, so I had to adjust the molar masses and convert them accordingly).

A friend of mine took 150mg of that batch and was floored, never seen somebody gurn that hard. Real good entactogen imo, but like you said, very heavy, long-lasting, and quite visual too. Felt pretty drained and physically exhausted the next day but had no mental hangover or dip whatsoever, which was nice. I‘d say it‘s my second favorite entactogen, only surpassed by 4-FA. =D
 
Psychestim said:
My sweet spot with an older succinate batch was 125mg, which should be ~63% 6-APB & ~12% 5-APB according to my lab-result (it was quantified as the HCl salt though, so I had to adjust the molar masses and convert them accordingly).

A friend of mine took 150mg of that batch and was floored, never seen somebody gurn that hard. Real good entactogen imo, but like you said, very heavy, long-lasting, and quite visual too. Felt pretty drained and physically exhausted the next day but had no mental hangover or dip whatsoever, which was nice. I‘d say it‘s my second favorite entactogen, only surpassed by 4-FA. =D
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Wait until we get our hands on MDA :devilish: my expectations are sky high, I think I can only be disappointed at this point
 
ecstacylover said:
What's your preferred dose range with miprocin?
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Between 20 and 30mg, usually 25mg.

Kaleida said:
Took ~20 mg of 5-chloro-AMT today around an hour and a half ago. It's alright. It definitely still needs more to be anything like a higher dosage of MDMA, but that doesn't really seem like that's mainly what it's like to me anyway. To me it feels like it's as much a psychedelic as an empathogen or stimulant, although a rather subtle and mellow one, at least at this level, which also feels low by dosage. It makes sitting out back in the breeze listening to the trees incredibly relaxing and fulfilling. Music is actually a little harder to get into even though it sounds deeper and enhanced in a familiar way, although I could see that changing as the peak passes.

Nice day so far, hope it is for everyone else too. :)
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Nice! Glad you're getting around to trying it. I am curious to explore more (I certainly have more than enough). Just have been really cautious with it thus far. I'm wondering if it will become more psychedelic at higher dosages, or if it will become very rolly like AMT does. I know it is a more potent MAOI than AMT iotself, but only around twice as potent if I recall correctly, meaning it should be safe to dose quite a bit higher than 20mg, in theory. I believe AMT reaches full inhibition at around 150mg, from what I recall. You don't want to become fully inhibited with a serotonin releaser.
 
My trip/roll went pretty smooth. Definitely persisted for quite some time. Kinda made me wanna get some more acid. Watched the matrix 2 + 3. Kind of a mind blowing little trilogy
 
deficiT said:
. Kinda made me wanna get some more acid.
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Ha Ha. Whatever you do don’t smoke any meth until that feeling goes away or one day you’ll straighten out and find your freezer full of sheets of hundreds of blotters and no record of source or strength.

I wish my thing to focus on for speedy days on end was disassembling electronics equipment or polishing my house with a toothbrush like a normal tweaker.
 
i got into researching something called gene keys and woah its blown my mind it combines i-ching and astrology to reveal your DNA bluelight on how to achieve a fufilling light by highlighting your shadows to overcome and it described everything about myself to the smallest details i was like woah fuck man the i-ching is some next level stuff.

even though i don't trust the vaccines im still trying to convice people i know to get it because life will be impossible to live with our mandates and its just silly to enclose yourself into been locked down in your house. If im still alive and kicking after all my heart problems im sure everybody else will be okay.

Im going to give up on all these dualities and instead just unplug and chill out somehow before i get any more mad at the governments lol. Im just one dude in this planet i cant change shit but myself.

Its a lunar eclipse soon hoping i get to see it.

too many extremes in this planet to try grasp maybe i need some good old acid to clear my mind straight lol. I aint done acid in a long time now. But ehh i want to wait at least 1 and a half years soo i can have a super mind blowing acid trip im sure it will be the most amazing thing if i can wait that long.

i cant afford drugs for a few months anyway.

kinda getting use to been sober no nicotine no caffiene just pure stone cold sober.
 
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i got into researching something called gene keys and woah its blown my mind it combines i-ching and astrology to reveal your DNA bluelight on how to achieve a fufilling light by highlighting your shadows to overcome and it described everything about myself to the smallest details i was like woah fuck man the i-ching is some next level stuff.
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Check out Human Design, also. It's a sister system, in a sense, to Gene Keys.
 
AutoTripper said:
It occurred to me that one reason why my own experience and impression of the oil chain decades ago at a time of my life where I was destined to face many tribulations was probably related to the fact that the world is in many ways a dark and abysmal place and much of what I did have to go through and triumphed at overall was The sort of insanely difficult stuff we wonder why we live on earth for especially if we agree to this at some point in advance for example.

That did occur to me and was surely the case but I still felt there was some kind of uncleanness and darkness to that book.
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That is may be "The book of changes". or I dzing.With different trigrams and combination between them.Years ago put a short look into it.Its for predicaments.Some sort oracule
 
deficiT said:
My trip/roll went pretty smooth. Definitely persisted for quite some time. Kinda made me wanna get some more acid. Watched the matrix 2 + 3. Kind of a mind blowing little trilogy
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The first one was hugely influential on society, imo. I found 2 and 3 to be pretty hollywood at the time, I was disappointed. But it's been a long time.
 
Xorkoth said:
The first one was hugely influential on society, imo. I found 2 and 3 to be pretty hollywood at the time, I was disappointed. But it's been a long time.
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I loved the first and wished it would have ended there. Two was not my cup of tea and I didn't give three a chance.

Did you know Lilly Wachowski confirmed that the Matrix was a trans allegory? That totally went over my head when I first watched it. It makes me curious to revisit it in that light. https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/08/the-matrix-trans-allegory-lilly-wachowski
 
Xorkoth said:
The first one was hugely influential on society, imo. I found 2 and 3 to be pretty hollywood at the time, I was disappointed. But it's been a long time.
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Yeah, 1 is obvs the best, but I think 2 + 3 are worthwhile enough. I couldn't even remember 3 although I had seen it a long time ago. But I enjoyed it. I think the entire story kinda ties together well. I had to look up some explanations online to really "get" it, but when I did it all made sense.
 
porkstock said:
I want to amend my earlier answer of 15-25 or 18-22 mg to say that one might want to consider a dose of 12-16 mg tops for a first trial with a new chemical (always start low) or if sharing with a non-enthusiast who might not trip as much as the average bluelighter :)
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Gave my friend 20mg for his first time with 4-HO-MiPT, just now actually.
He's not too sensitive to tryptamines if previous shrooms/truffles excursions are an indication.

Hope he has a good time, he'll do it alone which I believe will be much better than with my tripping ass around... =D

He's years too late of course to be trying my RCs, the things we could've done together... had lots to show him but too late now sadly.
 
I haven't posted on this forum in AGES. Hey everyone! Man, do I have a story about 25I-NBOMe, which I used to do quite often about 2 years ago. When I was fresh out of college, it used to be my favorite drug in the world. My guilty pleasure was to combine it with weed and copious amounts of raving and sex. I won't go into detail here on the psychological experiences I had, but still remember the first time I did it, left quite the mark on me and I felt I needed to keep 'learning' from it - or in retrospect, keep chasing that feeling. I would still even do it despite having a tolerance, to the point I ended up doing 5 tabs in a night once without even knowing the dosage of the tabs we were getting, the day after which, I was told by one of my 'friends' at the time that probably should have killed me.

Despite that I kept doing it, and then started to notice some weird side effects and behavioural patterns forming. Now, my memory of this time is cloudy, but I remember I would often start to feel incredibly drowsy on the comeup, go to sleep and then wake up very high and very tripping, and actually trembling and shaking. Quite a few times I woke up shaking so much and so out of it that I started to develop suspicion I was possibly having mild strokes or seizures while sleeping/or unconscious.

I would also experience things sometimes like losing control/'deadness' of an entire side of my body, which could be due to vasoconstriction, but also somewhat lends itself to the idea of having had a stroke-like occurrence. I eventually started to feel 'asymmetrical' in terms of control of my whole body, even noticing I was walking funny/unevenly, which was personally horrifying and I think is what was the final nail in the coffin for me to stop. That 'unevenness' actually lasted over a year, to the point I had to 'retrain' my walking and physical coordination. It was such a sickening feeling, the realization that you've potentially given yourself brain damage or lasting physical ailments, over a few months of binging some bizarre psychedelic.

Does anyone else have any particular experiences with this research chemical? I still find it fascinating, even though I no longer do it. 👽
 
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