☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Tripping Past 2020

[Buzz Lightbeer]

One mistake I made was stopping quetiapine completely before my aforementioned ketamine experiment, and not having any on me in case of emergency. I'm thinking it is possible to trip if maybe you skip a day or two, as it's a fairly short acting drug, but I would def keep some on you for emergencies. And it might even be possible to trip without skipping any dies. I know abilify stops a trip cold but I'm thinking Seroquel isn't as bad, I'm not sure though.

Yeah I've taken both Aripiprazole and Olanzapine, both of which block anything and will do so for a week and more due to their ridiculous half life. The Quetiapine half life is very short, I do take the extended release version. Best I can do is halve my regular dose and take it a couple of hours earlier the day before, stopping is a bad idea and I think I'll get into trouble with regards to sleep and even possible withdrawal symptoms.
I'd be surprised if nothing was possible, I actually rolled twice in the past month and while definitely a little blunted it wasn't all that different. I remember that was wildly different on Olanzapine where non of the serotonin releasing effects were there.

Let's pray

 

[Psychestim]

I'm thinking of tripping this week, or at least trying to. I'm very nervous about it to be honest. It's been over 5 months man, longest break in years. Should I even trip.. is it even possible on this dose of Quetiapine.. what drug.. how much..
Questions, questions, questions...

Nice! Maybe a 4-substituted tryptamine or sth. that’s relatively easy-going and with a shorter duration to ease yourself back into it?

 

[Psychestim]

Or go full ham and take 5mg DOPR + 3mg DOB. Party time son

 

[Jabberwocky]

Yeah I've taken both Aripiprazole and Olanzapine, both of which block anything and will do so for a week and more due to their ridiculous half life. The Quetiapine half life is very short, I do take the extended release version. Best I can do is halve my regular dose and take it a couple of hours earlier the day before, stopping is a bad idea and I think I'll get into trouble with regards to sleep and even possible withdrawal symptoms.
I'd be surprised if nothing was possible, I actually rolled twice in the past month and while definitely a little blunted it wasn't all that different. I remember that was wildly different on Olanzapine where non of the serotonin releasing effects were there.

Let's pray

I think it makes a difference which order you take APs and Psychadelics in. I’ve tripped through regular daily doses of seroquel (50 mg) and abilify (10 mg) at different times. In both cases I took 300 ug and the come-up was really fucking gruelling. I could feel some kind of battles going on in every synapse for a while.

However, I’ve also used both seroquel (300 mg) and Abilify (60 mg) to kill 300 ug trips at about the 5 hour mark. They worked like an off switch really quickly.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Nice! Maybe a 4-substituted tryptamine or sth. that’s relatively easy-going and with a shorter duration to ease yourself back into it?

I was actually thinking DPT, first and only time was I think like a year ago and it was incredibly epic. A short reminder of all your wrongs before showing what really matters.
I might get punished for some things, which is probably unavoidable as pretty much any trip I've ever gone into was with skewed intentions and me being blind as fuck. This time is no different of course. These are the kinds of posts I look upon post trip and then woefully regret and cringe at, mostly because I remember all of the things I was thinking when writing this lol, you don't want to know...

Or go full ham and take 5mg DOPR + 3mg DOB. Party time son

Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen lol, I don't think it'd work either, mentally they do entirely opposite things. I'd love a DOB grind though. DOB is a high level game, combining the physical and the mental, but I need to be ready to literally battle my way through, and also put all my trust in the drug. I am not ready and am unsure about the potential effects given Quetiapine, so I can't... it also takes some time to physically recover from.

I think it makes a difference which order you take APs and Psychadelics in. I’ve tripped through regular daily doses of seroquel (50 mg) and abilify (10 mg) at different times. In both cases I took 300 ug and the come-up was really fucking gruelling. I could feel some kind of battles going on in every synapse for a while.

However, I’ve also used both seroquel (300 mg) and Abilify (60 mg) to kill 300 ug trips at about the 5 hour mark. They worked like an off switch really quickly.

Cheers. Growing more confident by the second, it would be fantastic news if I just had to increase doses for psychedelics somewhat and it would be the same experience wise.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

I also just hate my face on DOx lol, looks so incredibly deformed.
It's not like I look much better on other psychedelics but certainly never thát bad.

 

[Kaleida]

I was actually thinking DPT, first and only time was I think like a year ago and it was incredibly epic. A short reminder of all your wrongs before showing what really matters.
I might get punished for some things, which is probably unavoidable as pretty much any trip I've ever gone into was with skewed intentions and me being blind as fuck. This time is no different of course. These are the kinds of posts I look upon post trip and then woefully regret and cringe at, mostly because I remember all of the things I was thinking when writing this lol, you don't want to know...

I was thinking about suggesting this too actually. Potent, short-lived, I was thinking a tryptamine might be best anyway, and it didn't leave me with much residual stimulation compared to the others I could compare it to.

 

[simstim]

I was actually thinking DPT, first and only time was I think like a year ago and it was incredibly epic. A short reminder of all your wrongs before showing what really matters.
I might get punished for some things, which is probably unavoidable as pretty much any trip I've ever gone into was with skewed intentions and me being blind as fuck. This time is no different of course. These are the kinds of posts I look upon post trip and then woefully regret and cringe at, mostly because I remember all of the things I was thinking when writing this lol, you don't want to know...


Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen lol, I don't think it'd work either, mentally they do entirely opposite things. I'd love a DOB grind though. DOB is a high level game, combining the physical and the mental, but I need to be ready to literally battle my way through, and also put all my trust in the drug. I am not ready and am unsure about the potential effects given Quetiapine, so I can't... it also takes some time to physically recover from.


Cheers. Growing more confident by the second, it would be fantastic news if I just had to increase doses for psychedelics somewhat and it would be the same experience wise.

I would definitely vote for DPT!! DPT can't be beat in my book. It's really a whole and complete psychedelic that lacks nothing and has no harsh side effects.

Also, it has a short duration and can be redosed a seemingly limitless number of times without any apparent tolerance buildup.

I'm planning on laying into a supply myself VERY soon. It's been years...

 

[simstim]

I need a 90mg line of DPT!!!!

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

I was thinking about suggesting this too actually. Potent, short-lived, I was thinking a tryptamine might be best anyway, and it didn't leave me with much residual stimulation compared to the others I could compare it to.

Great minds huh, hahah, I wouldn't have needed much convincing anyway.
I did snort it though (100mg first and only time), there was a lot of residual stimulation iirc, it took ages for the muscle tension and stimulation to go away, at least 6 hours.

I would definitely vote for DPT!! DPT can't be beat in my book. It's really a whole and complete psychedelic that lacks nothing and has no harsh side effects.

Also, it has a short duration and can be redosed a seemingly limitless number of times without any apparent tolerance buildup.

I'm planning on laying into a supply myself VERY soon. It's been years...

Sounds like a great idea man

DPT has this rep of being an incredibly harsh and dark teacher that is in no way recreational, but I think that's mostly based on the more famous reports that obviously have an intense story to them, the B&Ds and some other reports can paint a slightly different picture. My one trip was peak fun, a great reminder for why a simple man would bother with all these drugs, I hope this one will be too. Apparently IM injection is a vastly superior ROA even!

It brings me a great deal of pleasure that the "monks" in the Temple of True Inner Light are intentionally tripping crazy hard on a regular basis, that's really quite funny to me.

 

[Kaleida]

Great minds huh, hahah, I wouldn't have needed much convincing anyway.
I did snort it though (100mg first and only time), there was a lot of residual stimulation iirc, it took ages for the muscle tension and stimulation to go away, at least 6 hours.

Well, I actually meant in the days and weeks following the trip. It's the opposite of MET for me, which is my go-to psychedelic choice for rapidly producing a long-lasting antidepressant boost, which can also become more manic if stacked repeatedly close together. When I was exploring this property in the different base and 5-substituted tryptamines I have through smoking, DPT stood out among them as being the one that didn't seem to really produce this effect much if at all, but instead left my feeling very peaceful after (as well as during) the experience.

Apparently IM injection is a vastly superior ROA even!

It brings me a great deal of pleasure that the "monks" in the Temple of True Inner Light are intentionally tripping crazy hard on a regular basis, that's really quite funny to me.

I know someone who experienced a very powerful out-of-body experience on 20 mg IM. They were interested in learning about the Temple too and I think once actually went by to check it out.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I know this is the psychedelic social thread but I’m having a mini crisis. I had to go right over to the other side of town where I used to live to see my doctor and get some tests. The phlebotomist trying to draw a blood sample took around 20 goes between both arms and even (first time I’ve ever heard of them doing this) tried my feet. Every single surface vein I have collapsed long ago from injecting meth and they are just not there.

Anyway sitting in a chair for 40 minutes watching a woman continually jab me with needles was so unbelievably triggering I’m almost shaking with desire for some heavy duty amps. I wouldn’t inject but I could smoke a big bowl. It’s been months since I felt like this. And my reliable old source for A+ crystal is 5 minutes away from where I am, Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. I’ve even just helplessly transferred a large sum of money into my transaction account for easy ATM withdrawal!

If I was at home I’d seriously just starting chewing on a 10-strip of LSD or drink 10mls of my vodka/LSD concoction and lie down til I got over myself. Or else have a pretty big dose of ketamine. Either would work to fix this. Or both even. But home is an hour away. When I left this morning I actually thought to myself should i throw a bottle of liquid vodka/LSD into my bag cause you never know what the day is going to bring….but I thought I was being super responsible not doing so.

The other thing is it is only 2 days since I ate a 5-strip and ate some 2c-b for no particular reason but to enhance my ketamine and MDMA filled evening and I’m totally tolerant and I’m desperate to stop munching tabs for at ,least 5 days so I can have a big proper full balls to the wall trip on Sunday.

Sorry for bringing my filthy tweaker problems into the land of psychedelia. But I know you guys care. Or will give me honest commentary on what an idiot I am.

The only possible way out might be to go buy a glass pipe and go home and smoke the changa I have.

 

[Kaleida]

The only possible way out might be to go buy a glass pipe and go home and smoke the changa I have.

Follow your own advice and go do it, it sounds like a plan to me. I'd say this more tactfully but I literally only have a few seconds to type this at the moment.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

smoke the changa instead bro. DMT all day over ice

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

Great minds huh, hahah, I wouldn't have needed much convincing anyway.
I did snort it though (100mg first and only time), there was a lot of residual stimulation iirc, it took ages for the muscle tension and stimulation to go away, at least 6 hours.


Sounds like a great idea man

DPT has this rep of being an incredibly harsh and dark teacher that is in no way recreational, but I think that's mostly based on the more famous reports that obviously have an intense story to them, the B&Ds and some other reports can paint a slightly different picture. My one trip was peak fun, a great reminder for why a simple man would bother with all these drugs, I hope this one will be too. Apparently IM injection is a vastly superior ROA even!

It brings me a great deal of pleasure that the "monks" in the Temple of True Inner Light are intentionally tripping crazy hard on a regular basis, that's really quite funny to me.

What is the Temple of True Inner Light?

 

[porkstock]

I know this is the psychedelic social thread but I’m having a mini crisis. I had to go right over to the other side of town where I used to live to see my doctor and get some tests. The phlebotomist trying to draw a blood sample took around 20 goes between both arms and even (first time I’ve ever heard of them doing this) tried my feet. Every single surface vein I have collapsed long ago from injecting meth and they are just not there.

Anyway sitting in a chair for 40 minutes watching a woman continually jab me with needles was so unbelievably triggering I’m almost shaking with desire for some heavy duty amps. I wouldn’t inject but I could smoke a big bowl. It’s been months since I felt like this. And my reliable old source for A+ crystal is 5 minutes away from where I am, Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. I’ve even just helplessly transferred a large sum of money into my transaction account for easy ATM withdrawal!

If I was at home I’d seriously just starting chewing on a 10-strip of LSD or drink 10mls of my vodka/LSD concoction and lie down til I got over myself. Or else have a pretty big dose of ketamine. Either would work to fix this. Or both even. But home is an hour away. When I left this morning I actually thought to myself should i throw a bottle of liquid vodka/LSD into my bag cause you never know what the day is going to bring….but I thought I was being super responsible not doing so.

The other thing is it is only 2 days since I ate a 5-strip and ate some 2c-b for no particular reason but to enhance my ketamine and MDMA filled evening and I’m totally tolerant and I’m desperate to stop munching tabs for at ,least 5 days so I can have a big proper full balls to the wall trip on Sunday.

Sorry for bringing my filthy tweaker problems into the land of psychedelia. But I know you guys care. Or will give me honest commentary on what an idiot I am.

The only possible way out might be to go buy a glass pipe and go home and smoke the changa I have.

Damn dude, maybe just try some weed or alcohol? Or go even more tame and drink some caffeine?

Just saying...you can make it through tonight without drugs. Try it. Drugs will be there the next night if you wish. And for tonight...I’ll be hanging around the forums if it helps to talk stuff out feel free to PM me or we can chat in here.

I’m here to support you, you idiot

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

A little late but I get why MDMA would be hated on. At the same time, I love it because it opens me to me in a way psychedelics don't necessarily. However I'm not into being totally off my rocker and to combat that and never having an underwhelming roll I refuse to take MDMA without psychedelics involved. And imo that is the best and only way because less is more of both, in certain ways. I also prefer rolling alone, so no worries about discrepancies with other people but I also prefer tripping and generally just doing all my drugs alone, not that I really have a crew to do any of them with. But I also live hours away from any music scene so I'm sure things would be different if that wasn't the case.

@AutoTripper I know it is a hassle with the allergies but have you ever looked into kratom? It can easily become recreational so buyer beware but there is little else I'd recommend for severe or chronic pain. However, there is this stuff called palmitoylethanolamide that may also be helpful. Apparently it can increase anandamide levels in the body and people with high anandamide levels account for always feeling happy and feeling little pain. But it is not super bioavailable, iirc dosing every day can take some time to be noticed but my buddy sold it in a mixture of turmeric, black pepper and palm oil to boost absorption and 400-600mg of that could be felt in an hour.

On the topic of increasing dopamine, I'm not sure about dietary things but l-dopa/"dopa bean" is supposed to boost it. Then one of my favorite herbs is rhodiola rosea which has mild MAOI effects and iirc helps boost and balance neurotransmitter levels. It is also great for stimulation and focus and super good for brain fog/lack of sleep. Can also be a decent potentiate for trips, I've specifically had success with it and san pedro but as far as I know the MAOI effects are still too mild to be cause for any concern with serotonergic drugs but I still avoid it at least a day or two before a roll

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

Was gonna ask @Perforated did you make out okay with your cravings? I can see how that experience would be triggering but just know that if your priority is staying away from such things, abstaining will make you all the better and more strong for it. It's good you can recognize it and feel comfortable enough to seek guidance on such a situation

 

[simstim]

I know this is the psychedelic social thread but I’m having a mini crisis. I had to go right over to the other side of town where I used to live to see my doctor and get some tests. The phlebotomist trying to draw a blood sample took around 20 goes between both arms and even (first time I’ve ever heard of them doing this) tried my feet. Every single surface vein I have collapsed long ago from injecting meth and they are just not there.

Anyway sitting in a chair for 40 minutes watching a woman continually jab me with needles was so unbelievably triggering I’m almost shaking with desire for some heavy duty amps. I wouldn’t inject but I could smoke a big bowl. It’s been months since I felt like this. And my reliable old source for A+ crystal is 5 minutes away from where I am, Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. I’ve even just helplessly transferred a large sum of money into my transaction account for easy ATM withdrawal!

If I was at home I’d seriously just starting chewing on a 10-strip of LSD or drink 10mls of my vodka/LSD concoction and lie down til I got over myself. Or else have a pretty big dose of ketamine. Either would work to fix this. Or both even. But home is an hour away. When I left this morning I actually thought to myself should i throw a bottle of liquid vodka/LSD into my bag cause you never know what the day is going to bring….but I thought I was being super responsible not doing so.

The other thing is it is only 2 days since I ate a 5-strip and ate some 2c-b for no particular reason but to enhance my ketamine and MDMA filled evening and I’m totally tolerant and I’m desperate to stop munching tabs for at ,least 5 days so I can have a big proper full balls to the wall trip on Sunday.

Sorry for bringing my filthy tweaker problems into the land of psychedelia. But I know you guys care. Or will give me honest commentary on what an idiot I am.

The only possible way out might be to go buy a glass pipe and go home and smoke the changa I have.

I've been through something similar before getting triggered by needles. It's almost like a panic attack driving you to get high.

You don't need it, man. Breathe. Think slow and breathe.

Just put it right out of your mind. Go home and IM some K.

 

[simstim]

What is the Temple of True Inner Light?

Temple of the True Inner Light - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Their blessed sacrament is DPT.
Very interesting.