☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Tripping Past 2020

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Yeah Lamictal makes that stop when I go manic you really should give it a chance and you can still take all psychedelics, empathogens and dissociatives so its not gonna cramp your style in the slightest. But ad of now im on now meds at all which is a real gamble cuz when that Switch flips I really get out there sometimes. I used to drive my ex nuts when I didnt sleep for days cuz id be walking around making noises 24/7 and coming up with most half baked Theorien about shit, but id swear up and down that I was fine. I only sleep for a few hours a day right now and I have plenty of energy so im deff on the cusp of mania I like this state tho...its the other side when I get severely depressed and cut myself and dream about bloodly suicide that's sketch. I mean im sure its not healthy to barely sleep I really need to see a psych soon I have insurance maybe I will call tommrow and make appointment. I feel like the aMT is helping me alot for the time being, psychedelics do in general they stop me from getting sad.

Man damn.. I get nowhere near as manic, and I don't get too depressed either. I'm pretty much permanently on your cusp of mania, sounds impossible and it probably is. Be careful, I can only recall you being really manic once, last year on 3-MeO-PCP......
I'm not planning on trying Lamictal though, maybe if things get worse in the future. I like feeling the roughness of all my emotions, however delusional or painful. A timely psychedelic 'sit the fuck down' helps me correct things too. I tend to overthink it and complain a little too much, but this is only a minor concern in the grand scheme of things.

Anyway, MAL was so good, still somewhat on the rough edge physically, not as much character as mescaline (it does feel somewhat synthetic imo), but the peak was quite a bit more intoxicating. I do have a bad headache now though, (at +12 now) not sure why. All around beautiful drug with an amazing peak, and I look forward to pushing the dose some, also didn't experience any nausea per se. It's pretty epic that I have a gram of this left, I have some allyescaline too which I might explore next, none of the other escalines and proscalines sadly.

I'm sure you'll enjoy DOiP, it's on the manic side, slightly dissociating headspace, eh, essentially a straight up weird and fairly unworkable headspace but crazy energy and all of it together makes for some interesting times, good luck...

New profile pic, I promise to stick with it... felt inspired by some Asian psychedelic guitars

 

[Bella Figura]

I love Cambodian psyche rock :D

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Agreed! Went really psychedelic today... Cambodian rock was news to me, all in the times of the Khmer, quite amazing really

 

[cosmic charlie]

How much DOiP you take @Buzz Lightbeer?

And yes I don't get severly manic to often I moreso drift into the depression but I just zap it with a psychedelic and I come right out and I trip evwry 3-4 days generally if not more so I dont really give it time to develop. Sometimes I will try and take a week off the psychs but it's difficult they just call me you know. I wondering if I should take 14-16mg of the DOiP...maybe what I will do is take the 10mgs and then wait a few hours and then if I feel up for it dose another 4-6mgs.

 

[cosmic charlie]

You’re not still fully committed on getting clean, for your self declared true love? Is this Sexy Spanish number Satan’s extra little way to try and get you to just say...fuck it, and bite that apple?

Just surprised to hear that And only trying to look out for you as a sounding board bro in case this is something which is not conducive to your real goals and aims at present in the murkiness of your no doubt sleep deprivation induced psychosis however together you may feel, no offence by that either btw.

My ex said she will never take me back and that I have to move on and also that she would never accept my use of psychedelics, and well they are a massive part of who I am and I dont wanna ever stop tripping. It helps me in so many ways and the depression is crippling without them and im literally a danger to myself at times. If a person doesn't wanna except me for who I am then its not meant to be. Bit to answer the question about being clean from Narcotics I absolutely do plan on continues to stay away no more Dope/Coke for certain only the Methadone now im at 85mgs aside from that I will use Psychs/Empathogens and the occasional dissociative. This is as clean as im going to get, ideally I would be tripping once per week and I have to try and get there, every two weeks makes me anxious just even Type but I will try and slow down more.

 

[AutoTripper]

My ex said she will never take me back and that I have to move on and also that she would never accept my use of psychedelics, and well they are a massive part of who I am and I dont wanna ever stop tripping. It helps me in so many ways and the depression is crippling without them and im literally a danger to myself at times. If a person doesn't wanna except me for who I am then its not meant to be. Bit to answer the question about being clean from Narcotics I absolutely do plan on continues to stay away no more Dope/Coke for certain only the Methadone now im at 85mgs aside from that I will use Psychs/Empathogens and the occasional dissociative. This is as clean as im going to get, ideally I would be tripping once per week and I have to try and get there, every two weeks makes me anxious just even Type but I will try and slow down more.

Thanks for explaining that was just interested and offering support too, I know you got it super tough as me generally. And I am sorry your ex lady declared that, I know how emphatic you were in declaring your love for her.

Hence- desperate measures right? (Tough living I mean) But like you say, the psychedellics are a part of you And I see no reason for shame in that I mean some people may choose to become an Olympic gymnast and that is their choice and if there partner would not support them in that quest and it was their life’s ambition then ultimately that simply would not be the right partner for them long-term, IMO of course.

But hold hope man. Despondency can so easily set in and take over.There’s always so much to be grateful for. One day at a time. Positive thinking. It’s the only way.

I struggle myself not to trip too often. Last hour I can finally see, think, function again. Had pleasant, but untimely double vision (was aboveand below double vision though unusually lol, not side to side) and was spinning before my like a wheelbarrow.

I couldn’t concentrate, or think. That 600 ug Plugged LSD really whacked me on top of loads kava.

I fixed up resting. Vaped some more powerful Sativa long cured. I can THINK again yay!

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

How much DOiP you take @Buzz Lightbeer?

And yes I don't get severly manic to often I moreso drift into the depression but I just zap it with a psychedelic and I come right out and I trip evwry 3-4 days generally if not more so I dont really give it time to develop. Sometimes I will try and take a week off the psychs but it's difficult they just call me you know. I wondering if I should take 14-16mg of the DOiP...maybe what I will do is take the 10mgs and then wait a few hours and then if I feel up for it dose another 4-6mgs.

I took 20mg DOiP, you could just take it but you’ll have to be outside (energy)

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

At that dose it lasts like 12 hours, maybe a little more residual stimulation.
Some guy took 100mg once and apparently had the best trip of his life (lol)

 

[Vastness]

Well, I've finally done it, developed a fucking benzo addiction. I've been alternating clonazepam and etizolam for the last week or so to manage rebound anxiety from my ill-advised DCK escapades, daily dosing of flmodafinil and PPAP HCl on top of my recently prescribed sertraline, and this morning I woke up feeling shaky, very anxious. I've just taken my 4th milligram of clonazepam today, my first 3 being over the past 5 hours and I'm still feeling very shaky and uncomfortable physically... although that could be something to do with my trainwreck approach to managing my health over the last 4 days.

I believe I have enough etizolam and clonazepam to taper and have some gabapentin on the way... I need to stop taking flmoda every day as well, it's obviously disrupting my sleep and not helping. I think I might just take a week off work next week to get myself back to a better baseline.

Weirdly I actually feel a lot less concerned about this addiction than I did about being dependent on kratom, and a lot more confident about being able to manage the taper, even though on the face of it I know benzos are an objectively more dangerous substance to be addicted to given the seizure risk... anyway I guess what I'll do is cease etizolam use entirely, cut down clonazepam at about 1mg daily, use promethazine for sleep, and gabapentin for a week afterwards. After that, should be well back on the straight and narrow for a while.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

ever stare in the mirror on 500 ug and see what you look like in the future and then went u hit that point in the future you literally look like the vision. Its interesting how the spacetime continuum works. I find it strange now living in a point where i do not really know what comes next when i dose often its all deja vu i seen it all in high dose acid. Now its just like i see it all the previous stuff happen.

Stay safe out there vastness hope you manage to taper down. I remember my short benzo stint haha fucking hell they make you do such crazy stuff truly mind boggling. Especially Xanax somehow i would come to and i had stolen shit loads of food lol

 

[Vastness]

Thanks man, Xanax was the absolute worst for me in terms of inducing impulsive behaviour, usually also impulsive drug seeking, taking, and a complete and overwhelmingly convincing delusion of sobriety like nothing else. Because of that Xanax is basically just no longer an option for me whenever I need or desire to use a benzo.

I swore it off forever, for some reason decided to give it another go thinking I'd know what's up this time and could compensate for the manic impulsiveness and sobriety delusion... nope. Terrible idea. After a planned quiet Friday night in with just a little bit of xanax to take the edge off a brief meeting with a friend involving cocaine, somehow what followed was an impromptu and epically degenerate weekend binge with multiple psychedelics, ZERO sleep, followed up by doing lines of meth, ketamine and all the dexamphetamine I had left on Monday morning just in an effort to stay awake for work - which still was not enough. Flushed the rest of it and swore it off forever for the second and hopefully last time.

I don't know what it is about it, and from my perception not everyone shares my apparently unique sensitivity to this particular benzo, alprazolam... obviously all benzos are disinhibiting and have some degrees of sobriety delusion... but none of them come close to how severely manic and delusional xanax seems to make me.

 

[AutoTripper]

they make you do such crazy stuff truly mind boggling

Yeah, like come round from a deep 7 hour benzo blink sleep, decide to immediately eat 1000 ug acid.

Or...plug 600 ug. Fuck that was a different level trip to what I’m used to. Zero nausea, trip tension, anxiety, respiratory mucus which I’m naturally prone to.

And the comeup wasn’t faster either. 600 ug oral is like, instant rise, tripping hard in 5 minutes, 30 minutes all the fireworks.

The plugged 600 kept coming on stronger and stronger in waves. It was a bigger deal than 1000 ug oral, but different feeling. When I went out for a short night walk, that’s the most mystical, incredible the outside world has seemed, tripping, for a long time.

Walking was a joy, like being a hovercraft. I really wasn’t fit to interact with Joe Public, in any regard. I got so high on vaping weed too, plus about 75 grams kava which alone, no weed or LSD is like a heavy Pub crawl effectively. The cannabis was an incredible accompaniment to the trip, every time really upping the luminence.

Occasionally I would notice some thought loops but like learning to abort panic attacks by conscious decision, I did the same, plus kava keeps you so chilled on acid in that regard without taking anything away.

But I STILL managed perfectly to conceal from my mum the fact I was as high on acid as I ever get. I’m so good that way. When I took those 79.3 tabs 18 days, my mum never even clocked I was tripping.

I don’t change who and how I am when I trip. I get high, crikey, but I remain the same person, same mind, everything’s consistent and stable that way, how I speak, interpret, respond, conduct myself...on the CRAZIEST trips too.

I’m sure this inherent stability and grounded ness and inner strength in who I am is what just about enables me to ride it out again and again,

Normally, I slep maybe 7 messy hours, got up to manage allergies, tidy room space etc, did my oil pulling...I would be in a temporary state of despair, like- fuck! I’ve done it again, taken way too much of every drug especially acid.

But I can breathe so much better today, against all odds, due to an amazing NEW device I’ve been using a week now called an Oscillating Magnetic Field Generator, which is a different technology using powerful magnetic fields to kill infections, reduce inflammation, pain, and promote healing.

One week gone, it’s proving a superb ally and I’ve been able to make and sustain much better progress with far less treatment time, which is much faster and more complete as well.

So far anyway. But damn, I have a problem with taking too much acid currently. I calmed way down but 200 ug then 600 has put a stopper in that atm.

Kava right now to keep me chill. Let’s see how long I can go without tripping now.

I don’t think I will plug 600 ug again. 500 max. But I would feel very comfortable about taking 1000 orally. But I’ve no intention of doing that any time soon either.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Thanks man, Xanax was the absolute worst for me in terms of inducing impulsive behaviour, usually also impulsive drug seeking, taking, and a complete and overwhelmingly convincing delusion of sobriety like nothing else. Because of that Xanax is basically just no longer an option for me whenever I need or desire to use a benzo.

I swore it off forever, for some reason decided to give it another go thinking I'd know what's up this time and could compensate for the manic impulsiveness and sobriety delusion... nope. Terrible idea. After a planned quiet Friday night in with just a little bit of xanax to take the edge off a brief meeting with a friend involving cocaine, somehow what followed was an impromptu and epically degenerate weekend binge with multiple psychedelics, ZERO sleep, followed up by doing lines of meth, ketamine and all the dexamphetamine I had left on Monday morning just in an effort to stay awake for work - which still was not enough. Flushed the rest of it and swore it off forever for the second and hopefully last time.

I don't know what it is about it, and from my perception not everyone shares my apparently unique sensitivity to this particular benzo, alprazolam... obviously all benzos are disinhibiting and have some degrees of sobriety delusion... but none of them come close to how severely manic and delusional xanax seems to make me.

You tripped? :D
Psychedelics of choice?

 

[Zephyn]

Thanks man, Xanax was the absolute worst for me in terms of inducing impulsive behaviour, usually also impulsive drug seeking, taking, and a complete and overwhelmingly convincing delusion of sobriety like nothing else. Because of that Xanax is basically just no longer an option for me whenever I need or desire to use a benzo.

I swore it off forever, for some reason decided to give it another go thinking I'd know what's up this time and could compensate for the manic impulsiveness and sobriety delusion... nope. Terrible idea. After a planned quiet Friday night in with just a little bit of xanax to take the edge off a brief meeting with a friend involving cocaine, somehow what followed was an impromptu and epically degenerate weekend binge with multiple psychedelics, ZERO sleep, followed up by doing lines of meth, ketamine and all the dexamphetamine I had left on Monday morning just in an effort to stay awake for work - which still was not enough. Flushed the rest of it and swore it off forever for the second and hopefully last time.

I don't know what it is about it, and from my perception not everyone shares my apparently unique sensitivity to this particular benzo, alprazolam... obviously all benzos are disinhibiting and have some degrees of sobriety delusion... but none of them come close to how severely manic and delusional xanax seems to make me.

wow, you are able to handle your drugs way better than me. if i did that, id wind up in the hospital from psychosis, and have from less. i dont know if that means im bipolar or what.

 

[Delsyd]

@AutoTripper how are you plugging LSD? Just shoving a blotter in your butthole?

 

[Zephyn]

yeah maybe thats why he is able to dose so high and then type on bluelight. @AutoTripper I hope you are at least using liquid LSD and putting it all the way into your rectum with an oral syringe, or soaking the blotter in water first. maybe the LSD bioavailabity isnt so good rectally either? never really heard of anyone plugging LSD until this

 

[Vastness]

You tripped? :D
Psychedelics of choice?

4-HO-MET, supposed to be a 30mg dose, and I'm usually so careful, I remember weighing and re-weighing 3 times, transferring the pile of powder between containers, resetting the scale, but to this day I think in my fucked up state I might have somehow fudged it because the intensity was off the charts, hallucinations so thick it was like the air in the room became liquid.

Before that, 3-MMC or maybe 4-MMC, a fair amount of beer, ketamine, a lot of weed. Ketamine I continued to do throughout, even finished up with a bomb of 200mg MDMA on Sunday evening. My friend who I gave the same dose of Metocin to (I had texted a bunch of people to see if they wanted to come over for a party lol, but only 1 showed up, quite fortuitously in the end) did far less other drugs but was really fucked up, was basically catatonic most of Sunday but continuing to drink, smoke my weed and kept asking for more MDMA which to be honest, really started to grate after a while coz I was like when is this guy gonna fucking leave? He also threw up all over my floor, and I was torn between empathogen-induced compassion and wanting to help the guy but also a slight annoyance that he had turned out not to be great company and was basically just using my drugs and outstaying his welcome. But he did eventually leave, and I tried to get ready for Monday but I was still so fucked up and sleep was not on the cards. The other dude I actually think the trip really traumatised him because I didn't hear from him in a long time after that and don't really see him at all anymore. I should have been a more responsible tripsitter but in my defence I was already fucked up, completely disinhibited, and he was enthusiastic and outwardly displayed an unconcerned bravado about whatever drug I would suggest. But I don't think he was mentally equipped for that type of experience at that moment in time, I hope he's doing alright now whatever he's doing.

 

[Xorkoth]

yeah maybe thats why he is able to dose so high and then type on bluelight. @AutoTripper I hope you are at least using liquid LSD and putting it all the way into your rectum with an oral syringe, or soaking the blotter in water first. maybe the LSD bioavailabity isnt so good rectally either? never really heard of anyone plugging LSD until this

He says it feels stronger when he plugs it. I think his dosages are so insanely high because he does it so often... psychedelic tolerance is very powerful, especially long-term chronic usage tolerance. I got to the point I could barely even trip back about 15 years ago.

Man damn.. I get nowhere near as manic, and I don't get too depressed either. I'm pretty much permanently on your cusp of mania, sounds impossible and it probably is.

Actually bipolar exists on a spectrum, and there is even unipolar. Some people are always depressed on this spectrum (one of my oldest friends, it's horrible for him and has destroyed his life), and some people are always manic. So it's possible.

Well, I've finally done it, developed a fucking benzo addiction. I've been alternating clonazepam and etizolam for the last week or so to manage rebound anxiety from my ill-advised DCK escapades, daily dosing of flmodafinil and PPAP HCl on top of my recently prescribed sertraline, and this morning I woke up feeling shaky, very anxious. I've just taken my 4th milligram of clonazepam today, my first 3 being over the past 5 hours and I'm still feeling very shaky and uncomfortable physically... although that could be something to do with my trainwreck approach to managing my health over the last 4 days.

I believe I have enough etizolam and clonazepam to taper and have some gabapentin on the way... I need to stop taking flmoda every day as well, it's obviously disrupting my sleep and not helping. I think I might just take a week off work next week to get myself back to a better baseline.

Weirdly I actually feel a lot less concerned about this addiction than I did about being dependent on kratom, and a lot more confident about being able to manage the taper, even though on the face of it I know benzos are an objectively more dangerous substance to be addicted to given the seizure risk... anyway I guess what I'll do is cease etizolam use entirely, cut down clonazepam at about 1mg daily, use promethazine for sleep, and gabapentin for a week afterwards. After that, should be well back on the straight and narrow for a while.

Ugh, sorry man, you have my sympathies. I did this a little bit ago from switching to clonazolam for a short time and using it like I had been using etizolam. I'd try a rapid taper if I were you, unless this is the result of long-term chronic usage. If you're just at the edge of dependence, doing a long taper might actually make it worse. What I did was used gabapentin and just totally stopped the benzos. It sucked bad for about a week, I was very anxious but the gabapentin (or pregabalin probably is better) helps for sure. After maybe 10-12 days I felt pretty much normal, then I had to wean off the gabapentin (I have previous gabapentinoid dependence so I get hooked quickly, you might not). But gabapentin is quite easy to wean off of. Strangely, even though I had enough benzos laying around (etizolam and clonazolam and bromazolam powder, a total of 6 grams of potent benzos), I had no problems not dosing it, because I don't really care for them recreationally, I was using them to sleep (the clonazolam fucked me, because it lasts the entire day instead of wearing off in the morning). The thought of going deeper into the dreaded benzo dependence made the anxiety seem quite worth it. It was bad at times, but nothing dangerous, opiate withdrawal is harder, I wasn't really depressed during the benzo withdrawal, just quite anxious and a bit depersonalized but I was able to work, and find enjoyment in things still sometimes (unlike opiate withdrawal).

Obviously if you feel in danger or start to tremor, you need to taper. But my sense from your posts is that you might be skirting the edge, rather than into a full-blown, seizure-territory benzo addiction.

 

[AutoTripper]

@AutoTripper how are you plugging LSD? Just shoving a blotter in your butthole?

Well, I used some Shea butter last night. I pushed a smear in, just to spread out. Then, 3 tabs at 100 ug each, on my left palm. Drop of water, they are really well made, but soft tabs so they soften instantly when wet. Disintegrate fast in mouth.

Then yes, using small finger, attentively align the 3 tabs, push up, make sure it all goes in far enough.

Then I repeated a short while later.

I’m happily descriptive about it all lol! I don’t do shame. Just truth.

But wow, honestly I’ve 25 years tripping, past MDMA use rarely matched, all sorts. I put acid tabs in my eyes years prior, have taken 5 mg’s LSD in 48hours twice, 1000ug doses many times...

That 600 ug plugged was way heavier than almost any trip I can recall. It’s fortunate I’m so “seasoned” lol, to just let it go on until I finally snapped back to my witts and the present, about 8 or 9 hours later not the usual 4 to 5 I’m typically used to after an intense comeup has mellowed down, even 1000 ug doses.

Just vaped some Sativa and I’m still off my head on the acid. Big time.

 

[AutoTripper]

yeah maybe thats why he is able to dose so high and then type on bluelight. @AutoTripper I hope you are at least using liquid LSD and putting it all the way into your rectum with an oral syringe, or soaking the blotter in water first. maybe the LSD bioavailabity isnt so good rectally either? never really heard of anyone plugging LSD until this

Just explained above.

@Xorkoth i still trip amply on 50 ug, very recently. Even 30 ug is a real thing in the foreground.

I just alternate between the different levels and types of experience.

Plugging the LSD is genuinely so so much stronger, to me, and such a different feeling and way of coming on and the longevity of the peak doesn’t seem to fade.


I didn’t need to plug 600 ug. That was an insanely high dose, via that route, and it was an insanely intense, heavy LSD trip. In every way wow.

And again, really no nausea, mucus, usual tension, anxiety, tripping discomfort on the comeup of a strong trip. Just so easy to go with, then after 3 hours it was like, woah, shit’s getting strong. It just kept on increasing like I’ve not known an LSD comeup before.

Honestly it was a much stronger trip and comeup, peak, effect than the 1000 ug oral I took a few weeks ago, and that catapulted me into psychedellic space very quickly but I got my shit back together so much sooner than yesterday, while I was still having the full amazing trip on the oral 1000 ug.