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dreamflyer said:
I woke up with absolutely no motivation whatsoever. I took my supplements, puttered around the house and did everything I could to be mentally & physically healthy.

It started turning to anxiety
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Wow do I get it. This should not be. We should all not have as much anxiety as we do. I do everything to stay healthy. Walk everyday, or treadmill, breathing exercises/yoga and meditation at night. Fruit and oatmeal for breakfast. And my anxiety is through the roof. Granted it is situational but we will always have situations.

The only thing I did not do was the benzo. Did that a few weeks ago. Resorted to them a few times but it was totally called for. I have some too, I feel they exact what they give, at least later on, occassional use suits me.

Amazing we are all feeling it. I thought it was age and it is that too, but current day society is pretty damn stressful. And we really need some coping mechanism that doesn't make us feel guilty or like we did something wrong.

I Want to get a trip in but keep putting it off because of nerves. I know it will pass.
 
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Buzz Lightbeer said:
Are SSRIs really the go-to when people have anxiety? It sounds crazy but maybe it isn't
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In the U.S., yeah. Health practitioners tend to look shocked and horrified when I tell them I've been on alprazolam for almost two years now, as if I'm a druggie and stole a script pad to write myself... peach football .5mg generics? Yeah, totally in it for the fun lol... have to eat like 8 for fun, only 1 for my gut.

SSRIs are prone to inducing insomnia too which is a major source of anxiety in and of itself. They're an oxymoron of a medication. I would advocate for them to be placed in schedule 1 by the DEA if I could get anyone behind me. Psychiatry is in the dark ages now as everyone panics about the very thought of having a smile on your face.
 
Cream Gravy? said:
In the U.S., yeah. Health practitioners tend to look shocked and horrified when I tell them I've been on alprazolam for almost two years now, as if I'm a druggie and stole a script pad to write myself... peach football .5mg generics? Yeah, totally in it for the fun lol... have to eat like 8 for fun, only 1 for my gut.

SSRIs are prone to inducing insomnia too which is a major source of anxiety in and of itself. They're an oxymoron of a medication. I would advocate for them to be placed in schedule 1 by the DEA if I could get anyone behind me. Psychiatry is in the dark ages now as everyone panics about the very thought of having a smile on your face.
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We live in a psychopharmacological dystopia in most senses of the term. I think psychiatry is one aspect of medicine that will continue to reside in the dark age until neuroscience is able to fully elucidate the structure-function relations of each part of the brain, its still largely in its infancy.
 
mdx92129 said:
its still largely in its infancy.
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Yet all the best anxiolytic medications were discovered between the 1940s and the 1980s, and are now scheduled and seen as 'drugs'. So way I see it, 20th century=Golden Era when LSD and barbiturates and benzodiazepines were being explored for their practical uses. 21st century=dark ages when all medications are now drugs and poisons are referred to as medications.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
Man, we can't leave the country, we get fined if we don't wear a mouthmask outside, in France people can't go outside after 6, 10/12pm here, you mentioned playing a party, if discovered you'd have to appear in front of a judge, a lot of people have no income anymore and the covid reliefs are hardly as significant. Got a fine myself on top of the drug offense after my AL-LAD trip. You can feel people are sick of it, and experts are postponing any conversation of somewhat less strict rules. Good fun...
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Pretty similar situation here, mandatory mouthmasks, curfews starting at 10 pm (Well, starting today they decided to generously postpone it to 11 pm), gatherings of more than 5 people in closed spaces can get fines ... fucking sucks. I can't wait for the pandemic to be over.
 
And Methoxetamine as a breakthru medication to treat my bipolar dissorder flareups when aMT and 4-AcO-DMT isn't sufficient...id settle for Ketamine but id really prefer not to.
 
Img_9999 said:
Pretty similar situation here, mandatory mouthmasks, curfews starting at 10 pm (Well, starting today they decided to generously postpone it to 11 pm), gatherings of more than 5 people in closed spaces can get fines ... fucking sucks. I can't wait for the pandemic to be over.
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On paper we have similar, it's just that I've never heard of anyone getting fined or enforced. The only exception is business capacities, those are being enforced. America has a massive anti-mask sentiment, lots of people act like being forced to wear a mask in public is one tiny step away from full-on Communism. There are areas where people give you dirty looks if you are wearing a mask. Although the cities are more like the other way around. Makes sense, population density makes for much greater risk than small towns.

Also the federal government just issues guidelines, actual rules and enforcement are left up to states, and some states are leaving it up to localities. So it's kinda all over the place, very piecemeal.
 
Shadow Cat said:
And Methoxetamine as a breakthru medication to treat my bipolar dissorder flareups when aMT and 4-AcO-DMT isn't sufficient...id settle for Ketamine but id really prefer not to.
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Ketamine and MXE as bipolar medication?? Noo way that's a good idea, dissos are probably the most self affirming and mania inducing drugs
 
That's one issue that could become apparent in psychedelic psychotherapy is self-affirmation and ego-inflation. I hear people continuously purport that narcissistic and megalomaniac personalities should try psychedelics for their ego-dissolving effects, yet the very opposite could occur, an anti-ego death, where the individual is filled with self-grandiosity as opposed to being humbled by the experience. I would say self-grandiosity appears to be a psychoactive feature more akin to the ingestion of arylcyclohexylamines, but it certainly happens in the serotonergic psychedelics too.
 
MXE always had some remarkable antidepressant effects for me, but the idea of using psychoactive substances in therapy without a guide seems pretty risky. They have the power to alter perceptions, but diagnosing and treating yourself from within the problem can go badly.....
My opinion is of little value though since my only issues seem to be anxiety and I don't know at all what its like to have any of the array of other fancy named brain problems that others have to deal with every day.

My dad was diagnosed with Bipolar and Borderline personality disorder after I had already moved out. So I suppose alot of the root of my anxieties come from growing up with that. But to me he was just a huge narcissist asshole and because of that I grew up with a really rather extremely harsh view of my own ego, and at points making it my holy mission to destroy my ego (as if I could still function like that). At times I would tell myself I had to destroy my ego because it was the only thing stopping me from becoming the literal antichrist, and then telling myself, "see, only someone who's ego needed to be destroyed would even think that".
So I may be immune to anything that inflates someones ego or sense of self worth or things like that.

I've been learning to cope with it but seeing the state of the world these days and not being able to escape the input tends to make me appropriate those old ways of thinking into punishing myself for my role in all these human problems. Some of my friend have called me an ascetic. To me that means someone who is disciplined, but to them it means I guy that whips himself bloody with a cat-o-nine for his sins. Something about MXE back then just made that not exist. One dose at any level would cure those thought patterns for weeks.

But I wonder how my dad would have reacted to it....
 
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So my mate is going to take 3 tabs i think late at night alone then trip sit his work mate for his first trip but wants to do 3 alone. I still remember the crazy mf when i got him acid in the first place years ago his first trip normal one tab second trip takes two 3rd trip 3 tabs then all other trips after that was like 4 tabs and they were pretty decent 100 ug tabs.

He has not taken lsd since 2017 buts hes my friend who freebase smokes 25i-nbome powder crazy shit but glad he managed to get clean from meth now I had him clean for a year during his LSD days but life threw more challenges at him and he ended up back on it.

I have been enjoying vaping this new vape nic 36 mg salts nicotine is my fav stimulant does not really have a crash i feel way fucking better than coffee imo. it just makes me more smart eases my anxiety and allows me to do stuff for 30 mins at a time.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
Ketamine and MXE as bipolar medication?? Noo way that's a good idea, dissos are probably the most self affirming and mania inducing drugs
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My bad, they're apparently used to treat depressive symptoms, didn't know that was done for bipolar disorders as well, if it works it works :)

I need to stop disagreeing and arguing all over the place, an unhealthy side effect of feeling too good.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
My bad, they're apparently used to treat depressive symptoms, didn't know that was done for bipolar disorders as well, if it works it works :)

I need to stop disagreeing and arguing all over the place, an unhealthy side effect of feeling too good.
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I'm currently writing an article for my pharmacology module coursework on ketamine for depression, mainly focusing on the use of the Spravato intranasal spray, I wanted to go into more depth into the anecdotal evidence supporting the potential use of other ACHs in relieving depression symptoms but my professor wouldn't allow for it.
 
Dissos work wonders to pull me outta a depressive state but when im manic I will not take them cuz it can be a little risky. For better or worse ive been more so in the depressive state these past years and been hammering myself with psychs and dissos to treat it. They work much better than conventional "medications" IME...
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
My bad, they're apparently used to treat depressive symptoms, didn't know that was done for bipolar disorders as well, if it works it works :)

I need to stop disagreeing and arguing all over the place, an unhealthy side effect of feeling too good.
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I think you made a valid point though.
The thought of people self diagnosing and then getting their hands on aryls or psychoactive drugs in general to treat themselves doesn't sit that well.
I was always under the impression that the real danger with those kinds of substances was when the actually brought out the underlying mental disorders in someone who wasn't prepared to deal with those things.
I still think they are powerful tools with potential for great feats of healing, but the have the potential to cause harm as well if mistreated.
 
Am I right that nobody has seen any trip reports for 5-MeO-PiPT? Since it's a 5-methoxy subbed tryptamine, I am aware that it's advisable to proceed with cautious titrations. And that's going to take a while if I'm trying to avoid tolerance. :cautious:
 
Pfafffed said:
Am I right that nobody has seen any trip reports for 5-MeO-PiPT? Since it's a 5-methoxy subbed tryptamine, I am aware that it's advisable to proceed with cautious titrations. And that's going to take a while if I'm trying to avoid tolerance. :cautious:
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There was a report 4 years of 55mg vaporized dose of 5-MeO-PiPT, although the identity of the compound was never confirmed via GC/Ms etc.
 
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