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But yeah about the Jesus thing,I had some some trips that got to my head in a confluence of synchronicities, but now that I'm grounded it was, well, you know, a trip.
 
yeah i've thought i was jesus on trips many times haha. the feeling never stuck, though.

being christlike is probably a good goal, though, so long as you don't go all manic and overzealous with the notion.
 
I didn't get to try ketamine while on LSD :( A gram of K goes so quickly it feels stupid to even buy it since it cost more than MXE. And that I haven't seen in months.
 
So it's decided: on Saturday my friend and I are going to take 3-MeO-PCP, and partway through, ideally, take some of a 4-sub-tryptamine. 4-HO-MiPT would be a great choice, I'm sure immensely fun and euphoric, but my friend expressed that he is more interested in a deep trip so I may choose a different tryptamine. My options are 4-HO-MiPT, 4-AcO-DMT (But I only have 25mg because I lost the rest of my gram :|), 4-AcO-DET, 4-AcO-MET, 4-HO-DPT, and 4-HO-MPT. I also have DPT and DiPT but I'm saving those.

We also had the idea to do DOC and 3-MeO-PCP together, I think it would probably be really great. Could even add a tryptamine to that. Decisions, decisions... what to do? (definitely qualifies as a first-world problem)

And likely nitrous will be involved. :)

vortech said:
But yeah about the Jesus thing,I had some some trips that got to my head in a confluence of synchronicities, but now that I'm grounded it was, well, you know, a trip.
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Haha, yeah I figured.

pharmakos said:
yeah i've thought i was jesus on trips many times haha. the feeling never stuck, though.

being christlike is probably a good goal, though, so long as you don't go all manic and overzealous with the notion.
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Yeah, I have felt the messiah feeling once on a trip (I even wrote a report while on that peak, it's pretty... trippy =D). I wasn't thinking of it in an ego way, more of like, "I'm going to be the person who starts the wave that brings humanity into peace and enlightenment". I had a friend in college who came to believe he was the reincarnation of Jesus because "I'm the best human in the world, I'm basically perfect". It was such a massive ego trip.

SluttyPeach said:
The waves are here. Now to ride them blissfully into the void.... <3
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Awesome name man. :D
 
vortech said:
Yeah I think the crucifiction is more a metaphor at this point, as most the bible was.
I was T-boned in a bad car accident a week ago though, at an intersection. Get it.? Cross. And I broke a rib or two which could be considered another biblical reference. And a bone in my right hand. But I'm left handed. So I'm def. Lucky!
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Ha. That is lucky! That sucks but I'm glad you're at least mostly okay.

vortech said:
But yeah about the Jesus thing,I had some some trips that got to my head in a confluence of synchronicities, but now that I'm grounded it was, well, you know, a trip.
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Was this on the 3-MeO-PCP? It reminds me of a lot of my nitrous experiences.

SluttyPeach said:
Just took about 600mg DXM on top of 3g of gabapentin.. Should be interesting.
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i love that combination. :)
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Mind giving a little insight as to why? I have heard of people taking this combination before but I've never heard it described. I honestly always thought DXM and gabapentin separately seemed like they'd be kind of unpleasant if taken together.

xammy said:
I didn't get to try ketamine while on LSD :(
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Bummer! I'm still hoping to try the same combo one of these days.
 
Xorkoth said:
So it's decided: on Saturday my friend and I are going to take 3-MeO-PCP, and partway through, ideally, take some of a 4-sub-tryptamine. 4-HO-MiPT would be a great choice, I'm sure immensely fun and euphoric, but my friend expressed that he is more interested in a deep trip so I may choose a different tryptamine. My options are 4-HO-MiPT, 4-AcO-DMT (But I only have 25mg because I lost the rest of my gram :|), 4-AcO-DET, 4-AcO-MET, 4-HO-DPT, and 4-HO-MPT. I also have DPT and DiPT but I'm saving those.

We also had the idea to do DOC and 3-MeO-PCP together, I think it would probably be really great. Could even add a tryptamine to that. Decisions, decisions... what to do? (definitely qualifies as a first-world problem)

And likely nitrous will be involved. :)
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You posted this while I was working on my other post lol. Well, if I wanted to go deep I would probably personally go with 4-AcO-DET or 4-HO-MPT. The former for me combined with nitrous can already become similar to how I've heard 5-MeO-DMT described.... Visuals commonly become impossible to describe or comprehend, colors that don't exist and transformations that defy logic and the like. On top of a strong dissociative already I imagine it would just be completely mind boggling.... The latter for me is not anywhere near as delirious as the former (but still can be quite a bit) but it feels a lot deeper in an emotional and intellectual sense, very much like LSD for me. Those (and 4-HO-DET) are definitely the tryptamines that have taken me the furthest out so far.... Both wonderful substances. :D You better report on the combination afterward! I am becoming more interested in how 3-MeO-PCP might mix with psychedelics myself.
 
Yeah I'll write a report about it. :) I've been writing a lot of reports lately, I love doing it, it's a good artistic output for me (and my primary one in 2005-2007 when I wrote a ton of reports). I didn't feel compelled to do it for quite a while but then writing that ibogaine flood dose report sparked it in me again.

I've done 4-AcO-DET before, a high dose (like 35 or 40mg) with 30mg of MXE, with this same friend (same dosages). It was deep and powerful... I actually went way farther out on the same combo with MXE and 4-AcO-DMT (also the same doses). My friend went farther on the -DET though. My -DET trip was very visceral and worldly actually, in a jagged way. I confronted my mortality and growing older and it was difficult, but I worked through it and it was beneficial to me. I didn't get a whole lot of visuals (my friend did though), there were FAR more on the 4-AcO-DMT combo. Then I got to this place where I felt like I had supreme control over my body and mind, post-peak, and I had flashes where I felt this profound level of it, hard to explain but like complete control. We played music during this time and it was amazing.

I'm kinda leaning towards the 4-HO-MPT even though I haven't done it on its own. Also kinda leaning towards DOC with it, I combined 4-HO-MiPT with DOC and it was by far my best and most profound 4-HO-MiPT trip to date, it went well beyond recreation (which was why I took it, to see a great live show). Beautiful combination.
 
I know exactly what you mean, I'm having a lot of fun writing reports. :) It's good for cementing the memory of the experience as well.... I've gone back and looked over a few things and found details I think I might've forgotten otherwise already. And yeah, I've been reading a lot of trip reports lately like on Erowid and stuff and every now and then I come upon an old one that I realize is one of yours like half way through lol. Like I said before I have seen that ibogaine one too, that was a really intense one. One day I would like to try ibogaine but I think I would start at lower doses and work my way up.... My main therapeutic desires from it would be just psychological so I'd really like to take baby steps and see where it can bring me. :)

That's very interesting about the 4-AcO-DET, I haven't tried the MXE with it but your description of it notably lines up with my own experiences. At seemingly hyperspace-equivalent doses (I wouldn't really call it a traditional hyperspace exactly from what I've seen so far) I find 4-AcO-DET to actually be quite bizarre and spiritual, but below that I find it to be extremely down to earth and human for a tryptamine. Individual differences are so odd though, as 4-AcO-DET is significantly more potent by weight for me than 4-AcO-DMT! I am honestly a little afraid to push 4-AcO-DET as high as I have gone on 4-AcO-DMT and still didn't feel like I quite got where I wanted. Fascinating stuff....

That'd be quite a combo for your first time with 4-HO-MPT. =D Godspeed if you decide to do it lol. I would imagine that even just the psychedelic mix would have the power to go pretty deep, before even adding in the 3-MeO-PCP. Sounds like something I'd like to try one of these days. ;) Actually just earlier this morning I was thinking quite a lot about taking 4-HO-MPT with LSD soon. Like many I'm sure I've always had that fantasy of finding the ultimate cross-class psychedelic combinations.... With the options I have now I was thinking it might be cool to build up to something like a 4-HO-MPT peak within a LSD peak within something feasibly like a DOC peak. It seems like the kind of thing worth experiencing at least once, or, you know, many times. :D
 
Yeah it's true, the only trips I remember really well from many years ago are the ones I wrote reports about. I mean my most impactful trips, my +4s, I would remember anyway I think but of course I wrote about them. I know I wouldn't remember anything close to as much about my ibogaine report now if I hadn't taken great pains to write it all down in detail. A bunch of trips I wrote TRs for, I won't even recall my trips, but occasionally I make the rounds through my Erowid author page and re-read some that I didn't remember about and it all comes back to me.

DOC makes a great base to build other trips off of, in addition to being beautiful on its own. I'm really curious about 3-MeO-PCP, I'm going to take probably 10mg, since I've never done it before, and enjoy it for 5 hours and then add a tryptamine. If I do DOC I'll do it at the same time as the 3-MeO-PCP. Maybe it'll be 4-HO-MPT, or maybe something else. Honestly I would take 4-AcO-DMT except I lost my most of a gram so I can't. :\ Your descriptions of 4-HO-MPT just sound so nice... I seem to recall you didn't indicate that it gave you any worrisome physical side effects, right?
 
Yeah, I haven't had anything too negative happen physically on it yet, just a little nausea when I took it on a full stomach the first time and slight tremors on the onset both times. If you're wanting 4-AcO-DMT I think it will be a decent substitute.... I feel that 4-HO-MPT can very much bring you (or at least me) to the same space that mushrooms, DMT, and LSD all provide access to, and that most other psychedelics I've tried so far tend to fall just a little short of the mark on. 4-AcO-DMT I have not pushed that far on yet but of course it has a reputation for being able to reach that point as well.... I also have thought both times that the visuals of 4-HO-MPT had some things in common with 4-AcO-DMT, more so than most tryptamines I've used. Anyway, with or without the DOC, I'll definitely be interested in what you have to say if you mix 3-MeO-PCP with that.... I thought that 4-HO-MPT had a particularly special synergy with nitrous of the tryptamines I've tried as well, so I am very curious what it can do with other dissociatives thrown into the mix as well!

It seems I have found myself with another unexpected opportunity for an especially relaxed and easy but also necessarily shorter trip, tomorrow night that is. This conversation and my level of obsession with it are making me want to try 4-HO-MPT again now that I know it a little better and can be even more comfortable with it, but I think I may push that urge aside for now and finally try 4-HO-DPT instead. It's the last base (the -DPT) that I have that I need to try for a psilocin analogue, so I am excited to see what it's all about.... Until recently my two favorite tryptamines were 4-HO-MET and 4-HO-DET, but now 4-HO-MPT seems to be replacing 4-HO-MET so I'm curious if 4-HO-DPT will do the same to 4-HO-DET. The reports out there definitely make it seem like it could be a strong contender. :)
 
The gabapentin and DXM combo was awesome actually. Felt floaty and like I was having the best dream ever even though I was just at home. Found a stray kitty outside, she just came up on the porch while I was chillin. Gave her catnip and hung out with a high kitty lol.

Try it, you might love it!
 
That does sound like fun, is it a strongly visual combo or just psychological? From those doses I would expect to be pretty far out.... Gabapentin does strange things to my visuals produced through other methods even at <1000 mg doses, it makes them more colorful and vivid but also more chaotic and delirious. That combined with 600 mg of DXM seems like it should send me on some kind of wild astral ride. It does sound interesting but I'm mainly just worried about the nausea.... Each drug separately can already give me quite a bit of it, so the idea of combining them makes me a little nervous. :S
 
Took 60 mg of 4-HO-DPT orally about fifteen minutes ago for my first trial with it. This should be enlightening if nothing else. :)
 
I did a spur of the moment 100ug AL-LAD, 150ug ETH-LAD combo... why? Coz my house is clean. I'm clean. I'm on top of the tasks at hand at work. I have enough for at least two more significant doses, even though my disposable income doesn't allow for another purchase for a while. My family is fed and sleepy, and it's been a while. I need to reflect on some of the experiences I've had lately, especially my journeys to South Dakota and Colorado.
 
Kaleida said:
That does sound like fun, is it a strongly visual combo or just psychological? From those doses I would expect to be pretty far out.... Gabapentin does strange things to my visuals produced through other methods even at <1000 mg doses, it makes them more colorful and vivid but also more chaotic and delirious. That combined with 600 mg of DXM seems like it should send me on some kind of wild astral ride. It does sound interesting but I'm mainly just worried about the nausea.... Each drug separately can already give me quite a bit of it, so the idea of combining them makes me a little nervous. :S
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I never get nauseated honestly but I've heard of it doing that to people. It was a good balance of visual/psychologial, colors were bright and everything kinda looked like it was breathing.. Not sure how else to explain it exactly. I also felt a good deal of euphoria and overall satisfaction with just normal things.
 
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