On the topic of DOx chemicals, is it odd that I really want to try a high(er) dose of DOB? I don't know anyone in person whose ever taken it on purpose, but I'm fairly certain that I took a blotter that it was on many years ago. It was similar to but different than the other one that I suspect might have been DOC, there was a certain aspect of the geometry that only those two trips have shared for me. I also suspect that
it was DOB and not the other one because it was horribly bitter, the other blotter was almost (but not entirely) tasteless by comparison even in higher doses, and this one took at least an hour and a half for me to even begin to feel it. I actually can't really rule out from my research that it couldn't also have been DOI, but I have to say that it was not nearly as stimulating as I would expect that to be. I took a lower dose, and easily fell asleep after tripping for maybe about eight hours tops.
Anyway, the trip was correspondingly weaker to the dose, but I still found it quite interesting for what it was. The Persian rug kind of patterning was not as solid as the suspected DOC, but there was imagery like spinning laser cubes and things that I had only got from a relatively high dose of that. It definitely seemed like there was some potential to me, a similar lack of head trip to 2C-B despite a generally more "intense" feeling to everything, and no physical side effects whatsoever at the dose I took, at least not that I noticed. I really think it would be kind of cool to try again, but it never came around again, and most people around the web really seem to hate DOB. But I wonder if that's just because they were expecting LSD instead?
I get that a lot, lol. Meat makes me miserable and I got tired of being picky, so I just cut it out of my diet. I simply don't like the taste of coffee. I hail from the land of beer, but other than some Leffe after dinner, it doesn't do much for me. I was brought up with veggies, herbs and fruit from our own garden, it's hard to make do with stuff made, conserved and transported from Kenya or somesuch, so I just shop at the local farmer's market. I realize it makes me come off as a stickler, but I really just like the stuff. Incidentally, it's healthy, as well
I'm with you there actually, I've been noticing lately that meat really doesn't mesh with my GI system a lot of the time. I actually grew up not eating red meat though and then started in late high school, so I wonder if that's part of why I'm sensitive to it? I do enjoy it a lot though taste-wise so I think I'd have a pretty hard time giving it up, but I have had to change my habits a lot. As for coffee, I actually never cared for that either.... I was all about the energy drinks, I would regularly have several of them over the stated limit in the span of an hour or two. Beer I actually still kind of like, sort of... but mostly just because it's one of the only things that makes me less anxious without just kind of ruining most other things about my day, which makes it better for social occasions. On the other hand, benzos, for example, make me into a boring zombie.
My mother actually grew a lot of the food we ate as well so I do enjoy those kinds of meals too, but we did also eat a lot of fast food and things at the times she wasn't cooking. It's made me very conflicted about the whole thing lol. I would really like to shift myself into doing more things like that though, like shopping at the farmer's market.... Stickler or no, it's not so bad if it's good for you, right? We'll just see who's laughing fifty years down the road when you're the one who's still in perfect health.
Kudos on your life improvements, I've never had to cut any bad habits (maybe, just maybe candies, but shhhht), so I can only imagine the work and character it requires.
Thank you very much.
It certainly has not been the easiest of paths to take, but I have some great support systems. All things in this life considered I am a very lucky person, and I really want to make that be worth something instead of continuing to squander it.
I consider myself lucky that I got on board through LSD. If I read a trip report on anything else and it doesn't give the same kind of results, I don't feel very inclined to try it. I do wish cannabis had more of an effect on me, but I really dislike the smoke getting in my clothes, my lungs straight up refuse and cramp up and my eyes just turn red from all the coughing. Oddly, salvia was a smooth as silk on my lungs. Probably the tobacco, then?
Oh yeah, LSD is definitely the gold standard. I have taken a lot of drugs that do things that LSD does stronger, but not one of them has done everything it does simultaneously better. If I was only going to use two drugs ever, it would be LSD and cannabis without question. I think I could even quit everything else right now and not be too broken up about it, if I really needed to. But luckily I don't.
I do have to say that though I still think LSD would be the best to have if you could only choose one, I still find all psychedelics to be utterly fascinating. As long as they are not genuinely dangerous, there really aren't any that I wouldn't want the chance to experience at least once or twice, and there are a good number of them that I truly hope to never be without for too long for the rest of my life.
That is a problem I have never encountered before though, having problems with cannabis smoke but not salvia smoke lol. Even I find the taste of salvia to really just be bearable at most, and that's after using it more than almost any other hallucinogen I've ever tried. Have you ever considered trying cannabis through the oral method? There are certainly ways to use it that don't involve inhaling smoke, and they can be quite powerful and fulfilling as well. Actually, oral cannabis can be
way stronger than smoking it ever could....
Oh, that's pretty fascinating. We usually start in the early afternoon and wrap up around 3 or 4 in the morning. We've only tripped at night once and I liked it so much better. It just felt like the right time.
If you start in the morning, doesn't that kind of make you feel bummed out when nighttime comes around? Do you have breakfast before you start? I get cranky without a good breakfast
Bummed out after a good trip? That's a feeling I've never experienced before.
I actually
love the fact that I can have a relaxed night and then get a full night's sleep starting at a normal time after a day of tripping. It definitely feels better to me than starting to come down off a long trip and realizing that I've been up for thirty hours and still won't be sleeping for at least a few more, and that's if I want to wake up at night later on. But, as I said, nighttime is indeed a wonderful time for a trip, especially on LSD. The dream-like nature of the trip at such a time is absolutely unparalleled, and I definitely like how it feels more "private" even if you're wandering around outside. But daytime tripping has tons of advantages as well.... The colors and sensory enhancement especially are just beautiful to me, something that can't be matched under cover of darkness. In your case, having only tripped at night once and not having gone incredibly deep yet, I can absolutely understand why it would be more inviting; however, I have done that countless times already and am quite familiar with it, and after doing nothing but night trips for a long time I really came to appreciate the majesty of tripping during the day in new ways as well. They're both equally fantastic if you want them to be.
I make a point of not eating before any trip if I can help it, or else my stomach will really not be happy with me during the experience. This may not be a rule though.... I have a family history of GI disorders. I do greatly enjoy eating after something is already running strong though, as long as it's not too huge of a meal (or else it will lessen the effects of the drug). The sensory enhancement and synesthesia can really be out of this world.
Oh yes, absolutely, I totally, wholeheartedly agree. Half-assing a trip is SUCH a waste of time and energy. I fully understand that desire that you want to maximize everything you can get from a trip. We're still working on our routine/techniques/... adding and removing certain parameters every time we trip (we're all pretty new to it). At the same time, we realize there's no use in preparing for a trip, we just make sure everything we might need/want/want to try is at hand, before we plunge down the rabbit hole.
With that kind of setup, I am sure you will all be discovering deep corners of your mind you didn't even know existed very soon.
There is so much you can do to learn how to get the most out of a trip. I am very much of the opinion I've seen stated here a few times recently that psychedelics are like sex, in that the more you do them, the better it gets. I've yet to have a single full trip in my life that wasn't an improvement on the previous one.
Fuck me sideways, that music will send me into a
murderous raging fit, I'm definitely going to try this next Saturday :D
We tried a dubstep song not too long ago and we just ended up shouting at the tv to go away, it's not our thing but, being mentally kicked down a flight of psychedelic stairs can be amusing for a bit
That seems like a healthy attitude to have while tripping. xD I actually love dubstep while tripping, but only the right dubstep.... There is a lot of really shitty stuff out there, like a disproportionally large amount of it compared to many other genres I think. The right songs can be absolutely breathtaking at the right time though... but again, I have a very high need for stimulation, so that might just be something that gets me personally.
Honestly, it's been a very long time since I've actively listened to dubstep though, so I've forgotten what a lot of the songs I liked were. I'm trying to think of what some of the best ones were to link but I really can't.... I think I was on too many drugs at the time to remember well lol. Instead, I'll just leave you with this:
I have spent entire trips listening to this on loop. :D
(I'm just slightly insane.)
F-Zero, oh man, I hate racing games, because I intensely suck at them. Most of my laps are iterations of your final moment, you know, bouncing off the corners as if my life depends on it. I'm more of a RTS/RPG/FPS/Survival kind of guy. F-Zero does seem extremely interesting to watch, though.
I've been thinking about playing Silent Hill on LSD. My friends will kill me, though.
Yeah, they're not really my thing either. That's how most of my sober games go too. I'm mostly into RPGs, platformers, and puzzle and music games myself. For a while I was
really into anything made by Nippon Ichi Software... but I don't have the time for that kind of grinding anymore lol. These days most of what I play is new games from classic series, or the occasionally really trippy thing that comes out.
I haven't played Silent Hill, but if you want something that they might make a psychedelic concession for even if it's a little disturbing, you should look into Alice: Madness Returns.
I try not to, because I tend to get excited and frustrated about not being able to source any of it. Also, all the acronyms are dizzying. 2D-1P-NB-oogely-boogely-MMADMAMDMA, I have no idea what is going on, most of the time, just that someone ingested something, somehow.
Well, that's what drove me to this point of being able to get tons of different psychedelics, so it wasn't a bad thing for me haha. I guess you and I just have different mindsets though.
I love the mixing and matching names.... I'm still patiently awaiting the day we get to experiment with things like BK-2C-TFM-5-EtO-FLY.
