Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
Well I had fun, to say the least. I'm going to write a TR about it but no time today, lots to do (de-fleaing my house, cleaning, talk to the parents for the first time in a long time, experimenting with keyboard sound plugins and putting down a track for a song we're recording). But I'll say my thoughts about it here. 
It felt kind of like DOC, except less psychedelic and more stimulant/empathogen. It certainly raised my HR a little, I wasn't at my house for most of it though so I didn't really take notes or have my BP/HR monitor. I regretted not being a little more scientific about it, but I also wanted to fully experience it and enjoy my time. I got the sweaty palms and feet at first during the come-up. The come-up was fairly intense actually, it made me feel psychedelic, movement around the edges, color enhancement, and some anxiety. There was a good bit of body energy and I felt compelled to move a lot. It was kind of rushy at first. The overall come-up feeling was leading me to believe that something intense was going to develop, but after the come-up happened it got a lot mellower. It was actually less intense after the come-up, I feel, but a much stabler and nicer feeling. There was never even really a peak, It just gradually transformed into a calm, jovial, energetic and mentally active state. It definitely felt like a psychedelic amphetamine, for sure (which it is). I felt nice physically, maybe less so than with DOPr or DOC. Mentally I felt a bit of free-association style tinges of psychedelia, and hints of empathogenesis, but neither was very fully developed. It was kind of a stimulant too, but not very stimulating. I found myself moving a lot, balancing on this cool log in the yard a lot, occasionally desiring to jump as high as I could, and doing so. I do that kind of stuff when I feel good anyway, but it was more satisfying. I found myself talking and laughing a lot and thinking of things in somewhat different ways, and getting into great, hilarious, complex conversations with my friend (who is always great to talk to that way). At one point I jammed on keys with him (he plays bass), and we just decikded to play F# minor. The jam was really cool, very expressive with me taking the melodic lead. Lots of feeling and interesting ideas, very free-flowing, we actually started to develop the beginning of something that might become a song. The music enhancement was probably the most pronounced effect of the drug. In general it was very nice but I can't quite place my finger on why. Maybe it's just a good enhancer, but it didn't seem to provide its own content. Definitely not fully psychedelic.
Later on, I floated the idea of taking 4-HO-MiPT to my friend. In PIHKAL Shulgin mentions taking MEM with MDMA quite a lot, even recommends it, to get the most out of it. I don't have MDMA but 4-HO-MiPT is euphoric and I wanted some more psychedelia anyway. Since I only had 1 dose of MEM, I decided to get a feel for it alone first and then add something to try a combo. It worked great. The 4-HO-MiPT added that extra psychedelia and hilarity and euphoria. I took 27mg (which is the dosage range I go for with it normally). The light euphoria of the MEM merged quite well with the often profound euphroai from 4-HO-MiPT and became an amalgamation of the two. Another friend also joined with the 4-HO-MiPT at this point, and the three of us basically laughed hard and had epic conversations, and analyzed all kinds of things, all night. My face and throat are sore this morning because of smiling and laughing, and my abs a little too. I went to sleep pretty easily at 7am (I could have a little earlier but didn't want to). I had drank a decent bit of alcohol by that point, as I find drinking on comedowns of recreational trips to be great. That also seemed to mix really well, actually I drank a small amount before I took the 4-HO-MiPT also and it seems to mix very well with MEM, like it does for me on the tail end of DOC, where it seems synergistic.
Overall I very much enjoyed my experience. I enjoyed the MEM alone but it seems like it's lacking something a little bit. It felt quite like a much less full and complete version of the DOC plateau, without ever having a fully psychedelic peak stage. Adding the 4-HO-MiPT elevated it to the level of really good.
Next up, DOET. I have ~24mg of that so I'll get to actually try it at various dosages. I wanted to try MEM at various dosages but alas, I only had 50mg. Given I'm generally a hardhead, and I certainly wasn't going to get 2 dosages, I decided to just take all 50mg, to get the most I could from what I had.
It felt kind of like DOC, except less psychedelic and more stimulant/empathogen. It certainly raised my HR a little, I wasn't at my house for most of it though so I didn't really take notes or have my BP/HR monitor. I regretted not being a little more scientific about it, but I also wanted to fully experience it and enjoy my time. I got the sweaty palms and feet at first during the come-up. The come-up was fairly intense actually, it made me feel psychedelic, movement around the edges, color enhancement, and some anxiety. There was a good bit of body energy and I felt compelled to move a lot. It was kind of rushy at first. The overall come-up feeling was leading me to believe that something intense was going to develop, but after the come-up happened it got a lot mellower. It was actually less intense after the come-up, I feel, but a much stabler and nicer feeling. There was never even really a peak, It just gradually transformed into a calm, jovial, energetic and mentally active state. It definitely felt like a psychedelic amphetamine, for sure (which it is). I felt nice physically, maybe less so than with DOPr or DOC. Mentally I felt a bit of free-association style tinges of psychedelia, and hints of empathogenesis, but neither was very fully developed. It was kind of a stimulant too, but not very stimulating. I found myself moving a lot, balancing on this cool log in the yard a lot, occasionally desiring to jump as high as I could, and doing so. I do that kind of stuff when I feel good anyway, but it was more satisfying. I found myself talking and laughing a lot and thinking of things in somewhat different ways, and getting into great, hilarious, complex conversations with my friend (who is always great to talk to that way). At one point I jammed on keys with him (he plays bass), and we just decikded to play F# minor. The jam was really cool, very expressive with me taking the melodic lead. Lots of feeling and interesting ideas, very free-flowing, we actually started to develop the beginning of something that might become a song. The music enhancement was probably the most pronounced effect of the drug. In general it was very nice but I can't quite place my finger on why. Maybe it's just a good enhancer, but it didn't seem to provide its own content. Definitely not fully psychedelic.
Later on, I floated the idea of taking 4-HO-MiPT to my friend. In PIHKAL Shulgin mentions taking MEM with MDMA quite a lot, even recommends it, to get the most out of it. I don't have MDMA but 4-HO-MiPT is euphoric and I wanted some more psychedelia anyway. Since I only had 1 dose of MEM, I decided to get a feel for it alone first and then add something to try a combo. It worked great. The 4-HO-MiPT added that extra psychedelia and hilarity and euphoria. I took 27mg (which is the dosage range I go for with it normally). The light euphoria of the MEM merged quite well with the often profound euphroai from 4-HO-MiPT and became an amalgamation of the two. Another friend also joined with the 4-HO-MiPT at this point, and the three of us basically laughed hard and had epic conversations, and analyzed all kinds of things, all night. My face and throat are sore this morning because of smiling and laughing, and my abs a little too. I went to sleep pretty easily at 7am (I could have a little earlier but didn't want to). I had drank a decent bit of alcohol by that point, as I find drinking on comedowns of recreational trips to be great. That also seemed to mix really well, actually I drank a small amount before I took the 4-HO-MiPT also and it seems to mix very well with MEM, like it does for me on the tail end of DOC, where it seems synergistic.
Overall I very much enjoyed my experience. I enjoyed the MEM alone but it seems like it's lacking something a little bit. It felt quite like a much less full and complete version of the DOC plateau, without ever having a fully psychedelic peak stage. Adding the 4-HO-MiPT elevated it to the level of really good.
Next up, DOET.
I have ~24mg of that so I'll get to actually try it at various dosages. I wanted to try MEM at various dosages but alas, I only had 50mg. Given I'm generally a hardhead, and I certainly wasn't going to get 2 dosages, I decided to just take all 50mg, to get the most I could from what I had.
. I only have 1 grandparent left myself, she's about to turn 90 and she's starting to get loopy. Up until age 87 she was still moving all the time and partying with her friends. She's my last grandparent and also the one I've always been closest to.
