Xorkoth
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Yeah I'm wanting my collection to look sexy instead of a sketchy mass of bags. I decided to forego the label maker, I can just print a document with one line per label and tape them to the vials.
☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Euphoric Rambles for Swirling Souls
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Make sure you weigh vials with labels on and wrote weight on label. Then once you add substance its easy to check how much is left.
The only reason I havent added a lot of stuff to vials is not wanting to lose whatever I cant scrape out of baggie. Weird I know.
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^I keep the baggies, so if I want what's in them, I can scrape/wash out the dregs. Happy medium 8)
Just wrote up my first trip report in years, about my 2C-C/MXE trip on Halloween. 2C-C & MXE - Emotional Battery, for those who might be interested. It wasn't all I thought it would be cracked up to be![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Just wrote up my first trip report in years, about my 2C-C/MXE trip on Halloween. 2C-C & MXE - Emotional Battery, for those who might be interested. It wasn't all I thought it would be cracked up to be
Crashing
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I just tried laughing, and instead of "ha ha", i got simply a "Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
And then the a's went ah ahhh AHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
and the H's went haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
dissco
And then the a's went ah ahhh AHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
and the H's went haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Img_9999
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Yesterday I had the day off so I took some 2C-E with my girl, something we had been planning for a very long time.
We took 15 mg, which is for me the maximum 2C-E dose I have bothered taking as it feels plenty.
I had an earth-shattering trip. Just... Wow. 2C-E surprises me everytime. It's such a demanding substance, though, that I don't take it often at all, but it's such a "complete" psychedelic. It seems to shake everything inside me.
The last couple of weeks I had been having a gloomy mood, not content at all with this world and the course it takes. Completely uncertainty about my place in it and generally hopeless. On top of that I was having some serious unspoken discomfort in my relationship with my girlfriend, for the last months I had been feeling a growing distance between us. I really can't put into words what exactly the trip did for me, but I feel lifted from all that weight. Suddenly we both realized what was going on, and almost telepatically discussed the problem, just a few words were enough. The first half of the trip was very dark and difficult because we were both dealing with this unspoken feelings, but then we somehow found the right words, addressed it, understood and moved on. We hugged each other, there were tears of joy. I felt whole after that, relieved from an ache.
2C-E is a powerful drug. Everything appeared in front of me stripped from all significance. It was as if all matter had been lifted from the enchantment of spirit and everything appeared bare to my sight. Confronting myself with the void and the absurdness was incredibly healing. I feel renewed, reset, changed in the most positive way. A new found courage and enthusiasm, so to speak. Sometimes I need something to remind me that living this life requires an incredible amount of enthusiasm, otherwise dealing with the tiredness and frustration that comes from life itself becomes a miserable effort. It wasn't a "fun" trip, but it was truly therapeutic in every sense.
So, with all that said, I have a question to all you beautiful mind-explorers.
I feel like every once in a while I "need" to trip to heal myself. I know sometimes I just trip to have a fun time, to enhance live music, to make hiking an otherworldly experience, or to simply satisfy the curiosity of a novel experience. But every once in a while I have trips that make me turn inside out, and heal some deep wounds that existential anxiety has left inside me. I can say with all certainty that tripping is often a very constructive experience for me, not only a nacissistic journey inside myself but a true medicine, the resolution to many mental tensions.
Maybe I'm the only one that feels that way, but I'm almost certain that I'm not so I want to include someone else in this question:
Why do we need so much therapy? I understand that some people seem to have a couple of psychedelic experiences, learn a new way to look into the world and into themselves and then just "hung up the phone". But all of us here have a particular fascination with psychedelics, and we keep coming back to them. I know "therapy" is not the only reason for tripping, I can't claim to understand all the reasons to trip. There's many of us, myself included, that just find thrill in testing new substances, learning about the body/mind relationship with a scientific interest, or just for the sake of feeling something new. Recognizing patterns, understanding drug classes, etc. But I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that there are many trips that are just so important and cleansing, and to me that's the main reason to be doing psychedelics.
But I don't really understand why do I need so much the "existential relief" that psychedelics give me. When I say "need", I mean that it never ceases to be useful. Would this be something that literally everyone would benefit from? Is the way we are choosing to live as a society exerting so much pressure upon ourselves that we need to somehow remind ourselves that this reality we are trapped in is not the only possible world? Or is it maybe that those of us that seem to get unfailing benefit from psychedelic trips are just broken souls, lost in a world we can't seem to resign to? Or is it just the way our mind works, and we are constantly gathering anxiety and doubt, so we need something to show us how utterly absurd all our abstract fears are? Maybe it's just that I, as well as most of us westerners, have never had any kind of relationship with my "spirituality", and tripping is the only way my materialistic ass has to connect with something bigger than my own narcissism and somehow ease parts of my being that I don't even acknowledge as existing in substance, such as the "soul" ?
Maybe I'm just a wimp, and existing and taking care of myself and my life is too hurtful for me, so I need some sort of ecstatic ritual to regain my energies and continue the endless battle against this world I don't really like, which nonetheless happens to contain all the things that I love. But I would like to think my experience reflects that of others, so we can talk about this, and maybe pretend we understand something. I don't know, just sharing some thoughts I've been having today after the trip.
In whatever case what are your reasons to keep going back to psychedelics?? What is the message so delightful and infinite that is keeping you from "hanging up the phone"?
We took 15 mg, which is for me the maximum 2C-E dose I have bothered taking as it feels plenty.
I had an earth-shattering trip. Just... Wow. 2C-E surprises me everytime. It's such a demanding substance, though, that I don't take it often at all, but it's such a "complete" psychedelic. It seems to shake everything inside me.
The last couple of weeks I had been having a gloomy mood, not content at all with this world and the course it takes. Completely uncertainty about my place in it and generally hopeless. On top of that I was having some serious unspoken discomfort in my relationship with my girlfriend, for the last months I had been feeling a growing distance between us. I really can't put into words what exactly the trip did for me, but I feel lifted from all that weight. Suddenly we both realized what was going on, and almost telepatically discussed the problem, just a few words were enough. The first half of the trip was very dark and difficult because we were both dealing with this unspoken feelings, but then we somehow found the right words, addressed it, understood and moved on. We hugged each other, there were tears of joy. I felt whole after that, relieved from an ache.
2C-E is a powerful drug. Everything appeared in front of me stripped from all significance. It was as if all matter had been lifted from the enchantment of spirit and everything appeared bare to my sight. Confronting myself with the void and the absurdness was incredibly healing. I feel renewed, reset, changed in the most positive way. A new found courage and enthusiasm, so to speak. Sometimes I need something to remind me that living this life requires an incredible amount of enthusiasm, otherwise dealing with the tiredness and frustration that comes from life itself becomes a miserable effort. It wasn't a "fun" trip, but it was truly therapeutic in every sense.
So, with all that said, I have a question to all you beautiful mind-explorers.
I feel like every once in a while I "need" to trip to heal myself. I know sometimes I just trip to have a fun time, to enhance live music, to make hiking an otherworldly experience, or to simply satisfy the curiosity of a novel experience. But every once in a while I have trips that make me turn inside out, and heal some deep wounds that existential anxiety has left inside me. I can say with all certainty that tripping is often a very constructive experience for me, not only a nacissistic journey inside myself but a true medicine, the resolution to many mental tensions.
Maybe I'm the only one that feels that way, but I'm almost certain that I'm not so I want to include someone else in this question:
Why do we need so much therapy? I understand that some people seem to have a couple of psychedelic experiences, learn a new way to look into the world and into themselves and then just "hung up the phone". But all of us here have a particular fascination with psychedelics, and we keep coming back to them. I know "therapy" is not the only reason for tripping, I can't claim to understand all the reasons to trip. There's many of us, myself included, that just find thrill in testing new substances, learning about the body/mind relationship with a scientific interest, or just for the sake of feeling something new. Recognizing patterns, understanding drug classes, etc. But I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that there are many trips that are just so important and cleansing, and to me that's the main reason to be doing psychedelics.
But I don't really understand why do I need so much the "existential relief" that psychedelics give me. When I say "need", I mean that it never ceases to be useful. Would this be something that literally everyone would benefit from? Is the way we are choosing to live as a society exerting so much pressure upon ourselves that we need to somehow remind ourselves that this reality we are trapped in is not the only possible world? Or is it maybe that those of us that seem to get unfailing benefit from psychedelic trips are just broken souls, lost in a world we can't seem to resign to? Or is it just the way our mind works, and we are constantly gathering anxiety and doubt, so we need something to show us how utterly absurd all our abstract fears are? Maybe it's just that I, as well as most of us westerners, have never had any kind of relationship with my "spirituality", and tripping is the only way my materialistic ass has to connect with something bigger than my own narcissism and somehow ease parts of my being that I don't even acknowledge as existing in substance, such as the "soul" ?
Maybe I'm just a wimp, and existing and taking care of myself and my life is too hurtful for me, so I need some sort of ecstatic ritual to regain my energies and continue the endless battle against this world I don't really like, which nonetheless happens to contain all the things that I love. But I would like to think my experience reflects that of others, so we can talk about this, and maybe pretend we understand something. I don't know, just sharing some thoughts I've been having today after the trip.
In whatever case what are your reasons to keep going back to psychedelics?? What is the message so delightful and infinite that is keeping you from "hanging up the phone"?
perpetualdawn
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Really great writing img_9999. I don't have answers atm, but I can super relate to these ponderings.
Xorkoth
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Hey Img, man, great post. I'm glad you and your girl had some resolution or whatever you want to call it. That's scary, especially if you don't want it to be that way. My girl and her ex-boyfriend (6 years in the past now but her last serious relationship) gradually grew out of romantic love and became just good friends (and are still close). It was painful for them but it ended up being a good thing. Not saying that's you guys, I'm just saying, shifts can happen in relationships and that's a freaky thing. Hopefully this was just a little bump for you guys, I have some friends who I see go through dips and valleys in their relationship and they always seem to come out on top.
As far as "needing" trips, I see it like this. I'm a smart guy who has always been seeking understanding and a sense of connection. For me, the psychedelic experience has provided on many occasions a powerful affirmation of the beauty of life, and of some things I need to do, and in a few cases, a total life changing experience. Most recently, just last weekend, I had an ALD-52 trip that has really been facilitating a change in me in terms of taking care of myself, particularly quitting smoking cigarettes. I don't know that I NEEDED the experience to do these things, but psychedelics really help me to put things in perspective and affirm what is important to me. They're great tools when used properly, so there is no shame in using them for personal growth/gain. It's one of the beautiful things in life, that the human brain is able to assimilate molecules that can so radically and wonderfully alter us. It's really fucking something, isn't it? So I say, utilize the gifts we have, especially in this age (the age when you can order 2C-E at your desk and it will come to your mailbox). It's incredible that we have this opportunity, so embrace it.
A lot of people end up in really sad places in life, angry, sad, depressed, whatever, stuck in a rut that consumes their life. If you're able to use a chemical to help you from hitting those sort of places, then why wouldn't you use it? They prescribe shit for that kind of purpose, shit that in my opinion doesn't hold a candle to the potential of psychedelics to help, at least in many cases.
But yeah, 2C-E is absolutely one of the greatest psychedelics there is. I haven't had any since 2008 I think, well, I had some in 2013 but it was only 2mg (which was amazingly strong, totally unexpectedly), but I have really been wanting to take the plunge again. It's one of the psychedelics I am most reverent of, and most hesitant to take. I have had some incredible, earth-shattering experiences on it, especially one, which is one of my Erowid reports. 2C-E is the real deal, it's incredibly, even overwhelmingly deep, focused, intelligent. Really a gem, I can't believe Shulgin didn't consider it one of his "magical half dozen". For me there's nothing more psychedelic, and several things about as psychedelic, as 2C-E.
As far as "needing" trips, I see it like this. I'm a smart guy who has always been seeking understanding and a sense of connection. For me, the psychedelic experience has provided on many occasions a powerful affirmation of the beauty of life, and of some things I need to do, and in a few cases, a total life changing experience. Most recently, just last weekend, I had an ALD-52 trip that has really been facilitating a change in me in terms of taking care of myself, particularly quitting smoking cigarettes. I don't know that I NEEDED the experience to do these things, but psychedelics really help me to put things in perspective and affirm what is important to me. They're great tools when used properly, so there is no shame in using them for personal growth/gain. It's one of the beautiful things in life, that the human brain is able to assimilate molecules that can so radically and wonderfully alter us. It's really fucking something, isn't it? So I say, utilize the gifts we have, especially in this age (the age when you can order 2C-E at your desk and it will come to your mailbox). It's incredible that we have this opportunity, so embrace it.
A lot of people end up in really sad places in life, angry, sad, depressed, whatever, stuck in a rut that consumes their life. If you're able to use a chemical to help you from hitting those sort of places, then why wouldn't you use it? They prescribe shit for that kind of purpose, shit that in my opinion doesn't hold a candle to the potential of psychedelics to help, at least in many cases.
But yeah, 2C-E is absolutely one of the greatest psychedelics there is. I haven't had any since 2008 I think, well, I had some in 2013 but it was only 2mg (which was amazingly strong, totally unexpectedly), but I have really been wanting to take the plunge again. It's one of the psychedelics I am most reverent of, and most hesitant to take. I have had some incredible, earth-shattering experiences on it, especially one, which is one of my Erowid reports. 2C-E is the real deal, it's incredibly, even overwhelmingly deep, focused, intelligent. Really a gem, I can't believe Shulgin didn't consider it one of his "magical half dozen". For me there's nothing more psychedelic, and several things about as psychedelic, as 2C-E.
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vortech
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Img_999 I could not have said it better myself. You are not alone, and yes psychedelic therapy is very much a cyclical thing when accessing the deepest persistent and profound therapeutic effects.
Crashing
Bluelighter
This is typically what I chalk it all up to. I'd pretty much give this answer two thumbs up on most days, except on days when I'm tripping so hard that I'm convinced that I'm not a westerner at all, but some sort of ancient spirit demon/shaman that has come to save the lives and most likely just seriously annoy the ever loving piss outta my friends.
Definitely comes with a lot of ups and downs, but I feel like mental deficiencies are reigned in through the use of psychedelics with much more psychological fervor than what traditional western medicine could ever hope to provide. It seems like the SSRI/institutionalization route ultimately costs people much more than their sanity. Sometimes their lives, and even lives of others. I like to think we're lucky enough or privileged enough, or perhaps it is just by sheer coincidence that we avoid such dismal existences.
Img_9999
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Thanks guys for your responses. I really feel grateful that I have access to psychedelics, and it really makes sense to me that almost all of the ancient cultures had their own tools for accessing "the mystic", be it peyote, yopo, ayahuasca, mescaline... There's something about the psychedelic experience that is really healing, and yeah, I feel much more comfortable doing psychedelics monthly than taking prescription medicine daily. Not that I completely disregard our hard-earned psychiatry, but I think I resonate with Crashing's comment on institutionalization. Yet I know I can't generalize, and as SSRI's/Benzodiazepine work for some, psychedelics don't work for everyone.
I can only reiterate my gratefulness. Psychedelic's have literally saved me from my former depressive tendencies. Nowadays I don't consider myself clinically depressed, but I do have a tendency for melancholy and negativity, and I must thank psychedelics for bringing some kind of light into my life. My first acid trip left me changed forever. I am now much more accepting of beauty and welcoming of happiness, and I can say that it was a change for the best. I think I better understand what brings me well-being.
But he did consider it one of the "magical half dozen"! I actually read your trip reports on erowid, a long time ago, before trying 2C-E. It really is an indimidating psychedelic, I have only tried it thrice in full psychedelic doses, but each time it has left me speechless. Well, there was actually a fourth time when I also took 2 mgs, foolishly thinking that at that dose it would act as a stimulant. I was caught off-guard by how active it was at that dose, and ended up in a situation that's hilarious when I look back at it, but certainly wasn't funny while it happened, lol.
I can only reiterate my gratefulness. Psychedelic's have literally saved me from my former depressive tendencies. Nowadays I don't consider myself clinically depressed, but I do have a tendency for melancholy and negativity, and I must thank psychedelics for bringing some kind of light into my life. My first acid trip left me changed forever. I am now much more accepting of beauty and welcoming of happiness, and I can say that it was a change for the best. I think I better understand what brings me well-being.
But he did consider it one of the "magical half dozen"! I actually read your trip reports on erowid, a long time ago, before trying 2C-E
. It really is an indimidating psychedelic, I have only tried it thrice in full psychedelic doses, but each time it has left me speechless. Well, there was actually a fourth time when I also took 2 mgs, foolishly thinking that at that dose it would act as a stimulant. I was caught off-guard by how active it was at that dose, and ended up in a situation that's hilarious when I look back at it, but certainly wasn't funny while it happened, lol.psykedenlitenment
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I don't know if this merits its own thread, but this is my first social post in PD. Also, I feel as I'm about to derail this recent chatter. I think my past couple years' psychedelic ideas are beginning to coalesce. Integration, perhaps?
Recently, it seems my sober mindset has really become psychedelic, my last trip being 2 weeks ago, before that... Probably in the neighborhood of 2 months...I digest..
It seems everything and damn near ANY thing is sending my thoughts on tangents. This has always been my case, I've been 'diagnosed' ADD self-stimulating, and also depressed (both 12-15 years ago. Tried the meds, didn't like the feeling, so self meds with pots. From the ago of memory, I've been extremely into classical music, most prominently Beethoven. At 6 started playing piano. Through the years, I've taught myself every instrument that piques my curiosity, usually becoming somewhat proficient in a few weeks time. Auditioned for music school, surprise, no issues, and was accepted. This is also where the 'mental illness' begins to make life difficulter. Eventually I dropped out of music school, hell, within the second semester I had already signed out. 10 years have passed and my passion for music has slowly grown into an all-consuming obsession. This time on guitar. I can see myself on stage, killing it. Driving down the road, hearing a line of lyric, a simple chord - they all set of a firework of music. Demanding they be written down as to not being forgotten.
Also, coincidences are becoming too frequent to be overlooked as mere coincidences. I have a stage fright that I blamed on my collegiate disinterest, which wasn't entirely untrue. However, this impulse within myself send no longer containable. I must play. I must write.
The fragments of clarity are beginning to form a conscious steam of thought. Sometimes separated by weeks, but those times are diminishing. For example: this weekend, I recalled one of the hymns we used to sing in church, but it's probably been 25 years since I've heard it (age 6), the main refrain beginning, it only takes a spark to get a fire going. Today driving, listening to AC/DC's 'a long way to the top'. I realize it's a super simple song, simultaneously, that I don't have to write like Beethoven to be beautiful, even though that's what I hear betwixt mine ears. The desire to make beautiful music fit others is blowing away my timidness. I'm on the verge of happiness or complete mental collapse, but I don't know if I can tell the difference. I then realized that my mind is seeing things through my filter. If that is true, then my impulses are guy instincts. If I feel it in my gut, it is in my heart. If it's in my heart, then it is my true desire. If it's what I desire, I must pursue it to placate myself. Otherwise, I'm just going to become more resentful and spite-filled.
Does anyone else's (so far) failed dreams haunt them into revival?
This is what I've come up with this morning: and when I'm finished - it will be a work of art, if only in my own eyes. What you See, will be.
Sorry if this makes zero sense and it's totally tldr, but I needed it in text somewhere.
Recently, it seems my sober mindset has really become psychedelic, my last trip being 2 weeks ago, before that... Probably in the neighborhood of 2 months...I digest..
It seems everything and damn near ANY thing is sending my thoughts on tangents. This has always been my case, I've been 'diagnosed' ADD self-stimulating, and also depressed (both 12-15 years ago. Tried the meds, didn't like the feeling, so self meds with pots. From the ago of memory, I've been extremely into classical music, most prominently Beethoven. At 6 started playing piano. Through the years, I've taught myself every instrument that piques my curiosity, usually becoming somewhat proficient in a few weeks time. Auditioned for music school, surprise, no issues, and was accepted. This is also where the 'mental illness' begins to make life difficulter. Eventually I dropped out of music school, hell, within the second semester I had already signed out. 10 years have passed and my passion for music has slowly grown into an all-consuming obsession. This time on guitar. I can see myself on stage, killing it. Driving down the road, hearing a line of lyric, a simple chord - they all set of a firework of music. Demanding they be written down as to not being forgotten.
Also, coincidences are becoming too frequent to be overlooked as mere coincidences. I have a stage fright that I blamed on my collegiate disinterest, which wasn't entirely untrue. However, this impulse within myself send no longer containable. I must play. I must write.
The fragments of clarity are beginning to form a conscious steam of thought. Sometimes separated by weeks, but those times are diminishing. For example: this weekend, I recalled one of the hymns we used to sing in church, but it's probably been 25 years since I've heard it (age 6), the main refrain beginning, it only takes a spark to get a fire going. Today driving, listening to AC/DC's 'a long way to the top'. I realize it's a super simple song, simultaneously, that I don't have to write like Beethoven to be beautiful, even though that's what I hear betwixt mine ears. The desire to make beautiful music fit others is blowing away my timidness. I'm on the verge of happiness or complete mental collapse, but I don't know if I can tell the difference. I then realized that my mind is seeing things through my filter. If that is true, then my impulses are guy instincts. If I feel it in my gut, it is in my heart. If it's in my heart, then it is my true desire. If it's what I desire, I must pursue it to placate myself. Otherwise, I'm just going to become more resentful and spite-filled.
Does anyone else's (so far) failed dreams haunt them into revival?
This is what I've come up with this morning: and when I'm finished - it will be a work of art, if only in my own eyes. What you See, will be.
Sorry if this makes zero sense and it's totally tldr, but I needed it in text somewhere.
Why don't you make the music then? It will only lead to collapse if you don't listen and get that shit out. Who are you if you're not following what you're being pushed towards? Surely not yourself. Write it down, man! Make that music!
Xorkoth
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Hey, welcome to the social. I have, over the course of many years, turned my baseline state psychedelic. I feel like I have tripped so much and thought about it so much that my mind is just always skirting the edge there. The way I look at everything is so different from the way it used to be. Sometimes looking at a flower will spark an intense inner experience for a moment. I feel childlike going through the world, I am regularly caught up in the beauty of life. I think about everything deeply and try to be as conscious and loving as possible. When I play music it's the most intense experience ever every time. I think this is a great thing, people might find me eccentric but I am highly functional and I'm really happy. I feel like I've found the secret to a happy and fulfilled life, and a long period of youthful energy, not psychedelics themselves, but the way I view the world and live my daily life, which psychedelics helped me find. Maintaining that psychedelic way of being is no longer something I have to work towards, it's just who I am, it's the way I operate.
Regarding music, I had a similar thing, I played piano from age 8 to age 19, and then quit because I was doing computer science and I didn't have time anymore. I got out of practice and didn't play for 12 years. 2 years ago I started playing again, keys, but now I'm improvising and playing progressive rock, funk, etc, on an electric instrument and a Moog synthesizer. I was just like you, I would imagine myself (incidentally also on guitar, which is not what I ended up doing) on stage, I would imagine the joy and energy exchange with the crowd, and I felt such an intense longing. Eventually through some beautiful coincidences I started playing again and a light has been on in me ever since, it's not how I make very much of my money but it's the thing I spend the most energy and focus on in my life. I am in a band I love, and I play with a lot of different people. We play shows sometimes, trying to get to playing more. I've had part in writing some songs and right now we're working on one that is my idea, though it's being shaped by 3 people as it develops. It's so incredibly fulfilling, it adds immeasurable value and happiness to my life. Everything about my life feels better. I'd say, go for it man, get a guitar, start playing, find some people to play with once you're good enough to do that. We are looking for a bass player, have been for some time, and we post craigslist ads and people reply to them. Sometimes we've replied to people who posted craigslist ads saying they're looking for someone to play with. You can get connected easier than ever these days to other people who want to play music.
I have, over the course of many years, turned my baseline state psychedelic. I feel like I have tripped so much and thought about it so much that my mind is just always skirting the edge there. The way I look at everything is so different from the way it used to be. Sometimes looking at a flower will spark an intense inner experience for a moment. I feel childlike going through the world, I am regularly caught up in the beauty of life. I think about everything deeply and try to be as conscious and loving as possible. When I play music it's the most intense experience ever every time. I think this is a great thing, people might find me eccentric but I am highly functional and I'm really happy. I feel like I've found the secret to a happy and fulfilled life, and a long period of youthful energy, not psychedelics themselves, but the way I view the world and live my daily life, which psychedelics helped me find. Maintaining that psychedelic way of being is no longer something I have to work towards, it's just who I am, it's the way I operate.Regarding music, I had a similar thing, I played piano from age 8 to age 19, and then quit because I was doing computer science and I didn't have time anymore. I got out of practice and didn't play for 12 years. 2 years ago I started playing again, keys, but now I'm improvising and playing progressive rock, funk, etc, on an electric instrument and a Moog synthesizer. I was just like you, I would imagine myself (incidentally also on guitar, which is not what I ended up doing) on stage, I would imagine the joy and energy exchange with the crowd, and I felt such an intense longing. Eventually through some beautiful coincidences I started playing again and a light has been on in me ever since, it's not how I make very much of my money but it's the thing I spend the most energy and focus on in my life. I am in a band I love, and I play with a lot of different people. We play shows sometimes, trying to get to playing more. I've had part in writing some songs and right now we're working on one that is my idea, though it's being shaped by 3 people as it develops. It's so incredibly fulfilling, it adds immeasurable value and happiness to my life. Everything about my life feels better. I'd say, go for it man, get a guitar, start playing, find some people to play with once you're good enough to do that. We are looking for a bass player, have been for some time, and we post craigslist ads and people reply to them. Sometimes we've replied to people who posted craigslist ads saying they're looking for someone to play with. You can get connected easier than ever these days to other people who want to play music.
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
Just decided to take 5mg of DOiP, which should be about threshold according to my calculations. I took 1mg some time ago with no effect. This one has very few reports, and I want to work it up and find out the extent of its effects. This will be my first real dose. I did take 3C-E a few days ago but I decided to do this anyway because I have a day where it's convenient and it should just be trace effects anyway.
Delsyd
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4 ho met is probably my favorite tryptamine. It's the tryptamine equivalent of 2cb or AL-LAD. It has really nice visuals, not too much mind fuck and has a pleasant body buzz. Which is pretty much what I look for in a psychedelic these days.
Im kind of through with experimenting with all the new RCs to come out. I'm hoping the RC scientists out there come out with a good ketamine-alike, that's the only thing I'm really missing, a short acting strong dissociative. That and 1PLSD or ALD is all I need for my psychedelic journeys these days (and the occasional 4homet/2cb/al-lad trip)
Im kind of through with experimenting with all the new RCs to come out. I'm hoping the RC scientists out there come out with a good ketamine-alike, that's the only thing I'm really missing, a short acting strong dissociative. That and 1PLSD or ALD is all I need for my psychedelic journeys these days (and the occasional 4homet/2cb/al-lad trip)
SKL
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^ hey, bro! been a while. reach out sometime!
how would you compare 4-HO-MET to the next "link in the chain," but a drug that preceded it to market, 4-HO-MiPT, which was one of my favorites? I was under the impression that 4-HO-MET was a bit of a heavier trip though.
I'm considering taking a psychedelic again. at least once certain personal troubles are done with. 4-HO/AcO-MiPT (AcO was better IMO but much rarer) would probably be my first choice as I'm not looking for anything too deep but something that is pleasant and does have a bit of the psychedelic essence to it.
but maybe I shouldn't bother.
have some thoughts on some of the recent discussion here. maybe for later. at substantial risk that I succumb to predictability I'll just get it out there that I have a bone to pick with Xorkoth's proposition that the current era of drug markets and drug use that we're living in is a blessed one and perhaps quite a few of the approaches to psychedelic self-help here.
more later. or maybe I shouldn't bother with that either, lol.
need to find an excuse to keep posting here though. I remember the conversation about starting the first of these threads like it was only the other day but it was like 8 years ago. 8 years of PD social threads. and a fuckton has changed about the scene, the drugs, the audience of the thread (both participatory and presumed to be lurking), and those of us who are still there, for better or for worse
how would you compare 4-HO-MET to the next "link in the chain," but a drug that preceded it to market, 4-HO-MiPT, which was one of my favorites? I was under the impression that 4-HO-MET was a bit of a heavier trip though.
I'm considering taking a psychedelic again. at least once certain personal troubles are done with. 4-HO/AcO-MiPT (AcO was better IMO but much rarer) would probably be my first choice as I'm not looking for anything too deep but something that is pleasant and does have a bit of the psychedelic essence to it.
but maybe I shouldn't bother.
have some thoughts on some of the recent discussion here. maybe for later. at substantial risk that I succumb to predictability I'll just get it out there that I have a bone to pick with Xorkoth's proposition that the current era of drug markets and drug use that we're living in is a blessed one and perhaps quite a few of the approaches to psychedelic self-help here.
more later. or maybe I shouldn't bother with that either, lol.
need to find an excuse to keep posting here though. I remember the conversation about starting the first of these threads like it was only the other day but it was like 8 years ago. 8 years of PD social threads. and a fuckton has changed about the scene, the drugs, the audience of the thread (both participatory and presumed to be lurking), and those of us who are still there, for better or for worse
4-HO-MET is even more easy going and light-hearted than the -MiPTs, SKL. Tons of laughter, bright and colorful visuals - although not super intricate or deep, just fun, great feeling in one's body, etc. I wouldn't call it heavy at all. Although on second thought I imagine the bodyload could be called heavy if someone started freaking out since it does have electric-like body and tactile effects almost in the vein of MDMA. Not to say that the physical effects feel like MDMA, just that they manifest in an overtly positive manner 99% of the time.
Delsyd
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Hey dude, we do need to catch up. I don't chill on the internet much these days other than on my phone. Occasionally on a slow work day I'll hop on BL but I generally try to keep my drug life and my work life separate. I'll shoot you a PM though. We should email or text each other, those are my preferred methods of communication.
I look back on our days together fondly and really enjoy reading your semi fictional blurbs around here. It lets me reminisce on the good old days. I've also put that lifestyle behind me. But I'm still a full blooded dead head and take every opportunity to immerse myself in the love and the music and the community. Asheville GD fam is very different to the north east scene. A lot more love for the music with less of a focus on the drugs. People here don't even know who fast Eddie is (he passed away btw, not sure if you heard). I'm going to see Bobby in December. He's putting out some of the best material since I got in to the whole Grateful Dead thing 15 or so years ago.
As for 4homipt vs 4homet. I prefer the latter. I really like the body high, I find it relaxing (not sedating like acodmt) with mild euphoric rushes. The visuals are great for the level of mind fuck (or lack there of). But I'd take AL-LAD or 50ug of ALD or 1P over any tryptamine. Lysergamides just agree with me best. I do feel we are lucky to have them so easily accessible these days. I prefer them to any 2c-x or 4 ho/aco-xxx
About Xorks beliefs, I don't think there is much to argue about there. I know him in real life and can see that the things he says here are indeed true for him. But what works for one doesn't necessarily work for others in the same way. And the RC scene today is not all that different to the one I got introduced to back in 2001. Sure, we have a lot more shitty stims and opioids and benzos are going to ruin it for us recreational drug users. But we also have great things like new dissociatives and lysergamides which balances it all out.
I look back on our days together fondly and really enjoy reading your semi fictional blurbs around here. It lets me reminisce on the good old days. I've also put that lifestyle behind me. But I'm still a full blooded dead head and take every opportunity to immerse myself in the love and the music and the community. Asheville GD fam is very different to the north east scene. A lot more love for the music with less of a focus on the drugs. People here don't even know who fast Eddie is (he passed away btw, not sure if you heard). I'm going to see Bobby in December. He's putting out some of the best material since I got in to the whole Grateful Dead thing 15 or so years ago.
As for 4homipt vs 4homet. I prefer the latter. I really like the body high, I find it relaxing (not sedating like acodmt) with mild euphoric rushes. The visuals are great for the level of mind fuck (or lack there of). But I'd take AL-LAD or 50ug of ALD or 1P over any tryptamine. Lysergamides just agree with me best. I do feel we are lucky to have them so easily accessible these days. I prefer them to any 2c-x or 4 ho/aco-xxx
About Xorks beliefs, I don't think there is much to argue about there. I know him in real life and can see that the things he says here are indeed true for him. But what works for one doesn't necessarily work for others in the same way. And the RC scene today is not all that different to the one I got introduced to back in 2001. Sure, we have a lot more shitty stims and opioids and benzos are going to ruin it for us recreational drug users. But we also have great things like new dissociatives and lysergamides which balances it all out.
TheAppleCore
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I'm going to have to agree with Kaleida that 4-HO-EPT would be a worthy consideration as well. It reminded me of cannabis in its mildness, and at the time, struck me as an excellent beginner's psychedelic -- or, of course, the choice of a veteran looking for something that isn't going to implode the universe.
4-HO-MET is mild in a different sense. It's very electric, vibrant, and energetic; whereas 4-HO-EPT is lulling and melancholy. I would recommend 4-HO-MET for recreational and/or social purposes, and 4-HO-EPT for a more "serious" albeit gentle therapeutic introspection.
As far as the comparison between 4-HO-MET and 4-HO-MiPT, it's been awhile since I've taken the latter so I can't comment with high specificity, but 4-HO-MiPT is definitely more psychologically involved, and doesn't have the same sparkly, peppy character that 4-HO-MET does.
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