☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: aLL aBoArD tHe MoThErShiP 👽🛸

[Mr. Krinkle]

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

 

[Kaleida]

thats great too

If you like that one you should check out that YouTube channel, Postmodern Jukebox. They've been putting out stuff like this on the regular for years now, it's one of my favorite channels.











I put them on at nice parties so that people who listen think I'm cool and people who don't think I'm classy.

 

[phenethylo J]

Thinking of doing some 2c-p + mxe in a little while. Only have like 20-30mgs of the mxe left then it's gone forever. Prob should just use the rest so I can get a nice deep dreamy experience one last time. Will start by plugging 4-5mgs of the 2c-p with a pinch of the mxe then will plug the rest once I'm settled into the peak.
Should be enough since I don't have tolerance anymore.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Just got home from work and sniffed a half a gram of Ketamine with the quickness. Feeling lovely right now, this batch i got in is fire.

Not sure if its S isomer or racemic, she didnt respond back when i asked her. Eithet way it goes, all up the nose.

 

[SuperPsych]

Doing a little late birthday celebration with my best friend tonight. Have the house to myself not counting the sweet dog that I'm watching for my roommate.

We consumed 122mg MehDMA and 205mg of Mescaline at the same time. It's now kicking in. I took another 20mg MehDMA booster. It's just starting to kick in. Starting to feel good myself. He just went to throw up and now it's starting to feel better.

 

[Pfafffed]

Took 15mg DOF today and I gotta say I like this little molecule very much. Not earth-shattering by any means but a sweet day enhancer for spending an otherwise boring Sunday.

It's just delightful, isn't it? A shame it's got no broadbased appeal right now, because it was just lovely stuff. I wish I had a pile of it. Glad I got to taste it.

 

[Kaleida]

 

[Chris Timothy]

I need a place to vent. Cryptically. It takes quite some alarmingly urgent forceful executive decision to think of a horribly inappropriately funny goodam motherfluffer of a joke and then having to H0Ld.. and consider the situation the person who is going to hear said horribly inappropriately downright #$@!% of a joke is going to receive it in.

Now it's not funny anymore, but let's document it as your brain on DMXE and weed is probably not what we need.

 

[Chris Timothy]

I take that back. DMXE and weed is wonderful, but it needs some acid to melt away the dissociatively magnified paranoia.


Edit: disclaimer though, that's not how it used to work. Weed on acid is in itself a paranoia hazard after all. I used to need some Amanita Muscaria thrown in there for weed and the dissociatives to get along. I guess my tinnitus recovery year has strengthened my natural centering abilities.

 

[Kaleida]

I smoked salvia once a day for the last three days. It's great. I love salvia.

The first time I did a full bowl of the plain leaf.
The second time I did a half bowl of the plain leaf.
The third time I did a quarter bowl of the plain leaf.
I could clearly feel it and distinguish the time course of the experience every time. Salvinorin A is remarkably potent. Especially once you've got reverse tolerance I guess? I didn't used to get this much out of it.

The last time (the quarter bowl) was like riding the world's smallest roller coaster. I felt a rise come on quickly and literally within about a second after I noticed that I was getting over the hump and coming back down, but it did give me the complete emotional experience with a genuine high with that bizarre buzzy skin feeling or whatever you want to call it that salvia gives you, not uncomfortable as long as the high is good which it was. No hallucinations were noted. It was incredibly refreshing for what a small level of effect it was, I'm still feeling it a little bit now about half an hour later.

The second time (the half bowl) felt like having a massive wall of wind slam into me from the right and feeling my resistance to the feeling forming a large wall holding it back, but I quickly let go and the wall burst and the wind came pouring over into my side of reality and whipped all around me in a calming frenzy, like wild but with the tension having broken. I later characterized it as also being like having a giant body of water dropped on me and my feelings of resistance being like a dam that broke and the water came crashing through and buried me at the bottom of it where everything was calm, which I think is a better metaphor, although it clearly felt more like the wind metaphor at the time, the water one just occurred to me later. The feeling of release and the high afterward were similar to but stronger than the aforementioned trip. This was the trip where I decided that one of salvia's primary purposes for seems to be energy unblocking (which was followed up on in the aforementioned trip too where I still felt it was useful for that even with such a mild level of effect, relatively speaking).

The first time (the full bowl) shortly after the first hit I could hear voices starting to fade into existence all around me. It felt like I was seeing the microscopic particles that make up my environment balloon into macroscopic view in a separate, visionary sort of field of perspective and I felt like the voices were rotating around the particles as they spun around electrically or whatever the hell particles do. It reminded me of my old salvia extract experiences when suddenly I realized that I could tell how what I thought was my regular life was actually me seeing the salvia space again and remembering the weird reality-bending pain that comes with it. It felt like someone was grabbing my skin by the top of my upper right row of teeth and tearing my face off in a way that would wrap it up around my body backward and curl me around into a spiral like a carpet getting rolled up as it did so, all the way to the point that the tension of being rolled caused the carpet itself to structurally "roll over" to suddenly somehow be rolled up in the other direction and then unroll me back to same way I started from the other direction from there, although I panicked a little because the effect was stronger than I expected from a bowl of plain leaf and I hadn't properly prepared for any out-of-body shit and still had my bong sitting right in front of me where it could easily be knocked over if I couldn't focus on what my body was doing and stuff. I resisted it a little bit until the intensity lessened slightly but then I was able to let go and feel the full way the trip was supposed to play out, but it felt a little unsatisfying and like I missed the highest point of the peak already by then, which is what compelled me to try smoking it again the next day at only half a bowl to see how far I could get and if I could get a more completely satisfying experience out of it than I did this time (and I did, and the last time too).

I really like salvia. It's completely absurd in a kind of quirky way. It makes music good afterward too. Also has a nice painkilling effect which is especially smooth in comparison to some hallucinogen body highs.

Looking forward to using it more and more.



Oh, I should say I had some good LSD-like mind's eye hallucinations after the peak the first time too. It's been kind of an afterthought for me compared to everything else but it was a cool part of the experience. Salvinorin A actually does weirdly remind me very specifically of LSD even in comparison to other psychedelics sometimes. It's kind of neat. Didn't get those the second or third times though. Hoping to see more of them when I return to the higher dosage range.

Happy tripping, everyone.

 

[arrall]

If you like that one you should check out that YouTube channel, Postmodern Jukebox. They've been putting out stuff like this on the regular for years now, it's one of my favorite channels.











I put them on at nice parties so that people who listen think I'm cool and people who don't think I'm classy.

That Stacey’s Mom one is amazing

 

[Chris Timothy]

Are there cases of applying salvia to scientific problem solving?

 

[Chris Timothy]

Ever get that when you arrive somewhere to say something, and you forget what to say?

More ginger in the diet should help with that I suppose.

 

[Kaleida]

Are there cases of applying salvia to scientific problem solving?

Not that I’m aware of but I wouldn’t be surprised if there are or could be. I could certainly see salvinorin A inspiring scientific ideas as much as LSD inspired Francis Crick to discover the true shape of DNA.

 

[Kaleida]

That Stacey’s Mom one is amazing

I love that one too. I listen to it even more now to honor Adam Schlesinger since he died of COVID during the pandemic. Such a funny song that’s given me plenty of good times.

 

[Kaleida]

So, I posted about this recenty after the first time I used salvia again after many years off (the only trip not described in my post a few back) but I ended up taking the post down in part due to doubt about my own ideas, and in part because I thought I was maybe being a little too sexually explicit for this thread at the point the discussion was at, but after a bit more experimentation, I think it's worth sharing again.

I've recently also been working with oral Δ9-THC with precise dosages mostly for the first time ever. Both this and the salvia use are because I recently moved to a new state where both cannabis and salvia are legal, so that's why I'm going wild with getting to use salvia again and getting to explore cannabis in this way. I'd been to recreational cannabis states on vacation before so it's not like I've never used precisely dosed Δ9-THC edibles ever, but this is the first time I've actually had the freedom to use them for extended periods and while going about my regular life rather than treating it like a big party while on vacation for a short while, and I'd been wanting to start dosing Δ9-THC precisely for a long time to treat it like psychedelics and such that I like to know precise dosages for and document the effects it gives me to compare to other things in a way I could never do with cannabis before.

It should be noted for this that what I'm going to describe for this is something I've very specifically noted with oral Δ9-THC, not smoked. I've been smoking heavily since moving too, but as many others have said before, smoking and edibles are very clearly different for me personally, to the point that I can easily tell if I've been doing one but not the other at any given time, because they practically feel like different drugs a lot of the time even though they're both clearly cannabinoid highs. I'm not saying some of this couldn't apply to smoked Δ9-THC too, but that's not where I made these obversations, despite using it a lot in this same period and long before then too. This is definitely an oral Δ9-THC thing for me specifically, at least in the way that allowed me to really pick up on and experience this so far.

So basically, what I've realized is that for me, salvinorin A and oral Δ9-THC (smoked salvinorin A at least) seem to be sort of like exact opposites, in at least one very significant way, and in that way they also seem sort of like opposite parallels. It was clear to me the very first time I used salvia recently (which was my very first time using it at all in about nine years) and when I used some edibles a couple days later, and it's only remained clear to me in my experiences since then, strengthening my feeling that I'm actually on to something and not just high and crazy.

It seems to particularly center around a feeling that my breathing pattern is represented internally in my mind visually by a sinusoidal wave, with breathing in representing going up toward one of the crests of the wave, and breathing out representing going down toward the trough of one of the waves, so obviously doing one then the other on the same wave with a single breathing cycle too, traveling infinitely from one wave to the next. With either smoked salvinorin A or oral Δ9-THC, there is a very clear moment for me when the high can first be considered to be peaking where I am approaching one of these two points on the sinuisoidal wave, either a crest or a trough, and seemingly to go all the way with the experience, I have to accept that there's going to be what I perceive to be like a breakage in the overall wave and thus in my breathing pattern, sort of like for a moment I have to accept that my breathing function is going to stop. With salvinorin A, this specifically appears to happen on myself breathing in, approaching a sinusoidal crest, while with oral Δ9-THC, this specifically appears to happen on myself breathing out, approaching a sinusoidal trough. Frankly, I'm not sure what would happen if I didn't go through with them, because I always do now, and I didn't notice this aspect of these experiences before this. I'll save my thoughts on that for the moment.

When I approach this peak point on salvinorin A, as elaborated on in my trips above, there is a fear which I can liken to a roller coaster - specifically, approaching the crest of the ride before a drop, just like in the wave. I feel like I realize but also don't fully appreciate what I've gotten myself into it, and there is a panic as I approach that point, although since I've also learned to just accept the panic and ride it out anyway, it hasn't been taking me long to move beyond that point. The feeling of fear is one that I would compare to a feeling that I'm going to be going to "Hell" in a literal sense: I've explicitly described it as feeling as though I was about to be taken to another world for an infinite amount of time, and the feeling is that that world may lack logic or comfort and be inescapable, or other "Hellish" things along those lines, although I don't usually try to put into words because it's just a feeling, but that does feel like it roughly approximates it. Dissociation (proportional to the dosage at least) does of course occur at that peak point on salvinorin A and it can seem hellish, but importantly, once that moment has passed for me and I emerge on the other side of the wave, I suddenly feel like I'm in heaven, totally blissful and satisfied, even though the body feeling of salvia that accompanies often oddly feels like something that should be uncomfortable if taken on its own, but it isn't at that time where I'm so blissful that it actually almost feels "Heavenly" in comparison to the "Hellish" fear from just a moment before.

With oral Δ9-THC, as I approach the peak point, I instead feel a feeling which in my earlier post that I deleted I likened to feeling "swept off my feet." I also compared it to the roller coaster, except that instead of being the part where you come up to new heights for a big drop, it's the part when you're rushing back down and you take a big curve that starts turning you back upward again to start working you up to what will eventually be the next big rise and drop. Unlike on salvinorin A, where it is interpreted in a fearful way, when this feeling arises on Δ9-THC there is a quick but relieving excitement, stimulated but relaxed is one way I might try to put it but again, it's a feeling that I don't usually try to describe, I just feel. It tends to feel like it came out of nowhere like I didn't see it coming even though it has a predictable time course, and that makes it feel like an exciting surprise, which I completely grasp the moment it starts and I'm like "Yes, it's this again!" (Another notabe opposite parallel to smoking salvia, which often makes me think "OH SHIT, IT'S THIS AGAIN!") It feels very much like I am descending into a beautiful "Heavenly" state, where everything is surprising but familiar, exciting but relaxing, perfectly ordered, and genuinely blissful, and as it happens, I also tend to see a faint but clear vision of something resembling a Julia set fractal, perfectly clicking into place around the entirety of its structure, which then causes me to have an orgasm when it does, which I'll actually vocalize for and everything.

By the way, I forgot to mention this in my previous posts here or here until now, but smoking salvinorin A also does the same kind of thing at the peak, except that instead of making me orgasm from the complete harmony and order of everything, it makes me laugh about the complete chaos and absurdity of everything (or nothing?).

Again, this is "Heavenly" when it occurs, but notably, as soon as I get beyond that moment of breakage in my breathing wave, it suddenly starts to feel "Hellish" almost like I'm suddeny becoming psychotic, although that fades, and weirdly, even though it feels like I'm psychologically anxious, my body feels quite nice and relaxed, just like a very strong and relaxing cannabinoid buzz, although it suddenly feels like I'm not satisfied anymore, because it feels more like I just was completely but now I've popped out on the other side returning to my need for satisfaction again, which may be part of what makes it feel hellish to me?

So, let's do a quick review.

Quality​	Salvinorin A​	Oral Δ9-THC​
Sinusoidal Wave​	Up Toward Crest​	Down Toward Trough​
Breathing Pause​	On Breathe In​	On Breathe Out​
Anticipation Feeling​	Fear, Predictable-Feeling Disorientation​	Excitement, Spontaneous-Feeling Understanding​
Peak Feeling​	Chaos, Disorder​	Harmony, Order​
Release Behavior​	Laughter​	Orgasm​
Comedown Feeling​	Bliss, Weird Body Feeling​	Anxiety, Nice Body Feeling​
Trip Trajectory Feeling​	"Hell" → "Heaven"​	"Heaven" → "Hell"​

As the adage says, you've got to go through Hell before you get to Heaven (or was that Paul Pena?) and in my experience, the opposite seems to be true as well. Once you reach Heaven you're going to end up in Hell instead, but that's okay because you can just go to Hell again if you want to get back to Heaven.

This is something that I learned while dealing with my psychotic issues after my smoked tryptamine binge. At the time I was obsessed with figuring out how to get into Hell because of the Dante's Inferno-like trip I had had from smoking 15 mg of 5-MeO-EiPT at the end of the binge. After months of pushing my mind in various ways trying to find the way in and documenting my findings, I finally got tired of trying and gave up completely, feeling like I didn't care about anything anymore and was ready to just stop trying, and then, spontaneously, I got in. At the moment I "gave up" I dissociated into a brief state very much like the fractal orgasm of oral Δ9-THC is for me now where I felt like I went backward around the entire loop of time in this universe until I reached my starting point again coming backward from the future and then popped out immediately on the other side of the orgasmic feeling which in retrospect had been rather Heavenly although I was dissociated for it and also kind of freaking out in at least some way that still remained within me to do, but when I did come to on the other side I not only felt that I was in Hell, but also had voices literally telling me so. I ended up spending the next several months working with the voices in my head to understand the infinity of time that had occurred backward and how I had trapped myself in the eternal hellscape, and eventually, probably because I'm insane, I decided to seek Hell again, although this time in a different way from before. I specifically stimulated myself internally through fantasy (which was super intense at the time, easier than just with my normal imagination I think) into believing that my Hellish fantasy that I was purposefully pushing myself into was going to be so aversive that it was going to cause me to completely dissociate into it and that it would be what felt like basically the worst thing I could possibly imagine and that it was going to last literally forever in realistic-feeling time with obviously no possible escape from that and that it was going to be so unbelievably horrible that it would twist my emotions into impossible directions and cause them to blend together in the most beautiful-horrifying symphony of displeasure imaginable that would continuously peak over and over at the most extreme point of infinite suffering that that moment would ring throughout the entire infinite loop at once every time and every time would be experienced simultaneously like the most Hellish, mocking, soul-crushingly incarcerating form of synchronicity possible, and I once again decided that I had given up on struggling in this life enough to let go into it. As soon as I did, I spontaneously hallucinated myself vividly experiencing giving birth to a hallucinated baby, along with an internal scream that was so intense that it seemed to carry me all the way up into a moment of being completely taken into the black void, where I could see nothing but a completely visible and opaque white infinity symbol (like ) floating in front of me in the center of the void. After this moment of nothingness including no thought, I popped out on the other side suddenly feeling as though I was in Heaven so to speak, with all of my stress from before completely released and feeling as though I had finally managed to go all the way in this direction as well, and come out safely on the other side just like I always do, with nothing but bliss and satisfaction to show for it.

It seems to me now like oral Δ9-THC is really stimulating the same pathway in my mind as my original experience, and (smoked) salvinorin A is stimulating the same pathway as the experience that came months later. Essentially, I felt like the former trapped me in "Hell" and the latter brought me back to "Heaven" afterward, and now I feel like oral Δ9-THC and smoked salvinorin A are simple tools I can use to induce the same changes in myself again, which is probably especially easy for me to do now specifically because of what I went through in the aforementioned experiences.

Seemingly notably, in both of my aforementioned experiences there was indeed a specific moment of "giving up" where I was ready to abandon my attachment to my desire to continue this life I'm living, which seems to me as though it could perfectly correspond to my brain reaching a point where it was ready to "allow a breakage in my breath-locked sinusoidal wave" as I was getting at before, like I had to learn how to allow such a breakage to stop by naturally experiencing a state where I genuinely no longer cared, at least on some level, whether I was breathing or not, and by doing so I realized that even when you do experience that you still just keep on breathing a moment later anyway, which now allows me to do the same thing again either way without really worrying about it because of that experience (although it's still vaguely scary every time, at least that I've experienced so far, but maybe it will continue to get lesser over time?).

Anyway, I wonder now, was I experiencing these same things before but simply unable to ride the feelings all the way to the breathing breakage point, causing the states to just end without release eventually? It seems relatively likely to me, although I don't want to jump to conclusions. I always enjoyed oral cannabis plenty before, although I don't recall being able to actually reach the orgasm point with it before. Simultaneously, years ago when I still had access to salvia in my old state, I was always interested in but it could never get past the anxious coming up part seemingly, even when I did manage to trip a bit from it, and tended to feel like there was some lack of closure associated with it as well. Interesting considering that now, oral Δ9-THC is blissful on the ride up but anxious on the ride down for me, while salvinorin A is anxious on the ride up but blissful on the ride down.

Very much looking forward to continuing my experiments with both oral Δ9-THC and smoked salvinorin A to see how (if) they continue to reflect off of one another, and also just in general.

I think that's about all I wanted to say about it for now....

Here's another song.



And another for good measure....





That's all I've got for now.

 

[JackARoe]

Holy..... that is a lot Kaleida. It will take me a month to digest. I should not even respond yet. But a few things jumped out at me since I am someone that used quite a bit of Salvia. I had taken some time off and when I went to used again a small amount made it seem like it jumped out at me and was glad to see me and show me stuff. Like it got stronger over time.

I never am stoned on cannabis when I use Salvia or DMT. I always wait till after the trips to smoke and digest. But I can say oral cannabis is very different than smoked and I too can tell a difference. Like it is a different drug. So I may consider that.

I had one Salvia experience that stands out with me on breathing. I had taken a third hit off the pipe and held it in. I could have held it in forever. No desire to breath. Like I was standing just outside of myself. I did breath after a minute but totally had no need. But I remember my body saying I probably should. No telling what would have happened it I did not breath.

So that is a lot to throw out. Sometimes some of the stuff you all throw out I want to organize in one spot as it is some good stuff. Too good to be scattered. But again that post needs more reading. If I get off my butt I will do that and let you know.

 

[Kaleida]

Holy..... that is a lot Kaleida. It will take me a month to digest. I should not even respond yet.

There is no rush, any time you have a response or any thoughts to share about it I'd be happy to hear it.

I had taken some time off and when I went to used again a small amount made it seem like it jumped out at me and was glad to see me and show me stuff. Like it got stronger over time.

I definitely experienced this too, nine years off made a heck of a lot of difference. I guess all the people who talked about reverse tolerance actually knew what they were talking about.

I never am stoned on cannabis when I use Salvia or DMT. I always wait till after the trips to smoke and digest. But I can say oral cannabis is very different than smoked and I too can tell a difference. Like it is a different drug. So I may consider that.

For the record I've been smoking my salvia not in close proximity to cannabis either, to keep it pure. With DMT I always smoked it in a bowl of cannabis though so I had little choice. I'd like to get a good pipe for vaporizing it and start using it on its own too.

And yeah, edibles are... cool. I find them incredibly fascinating. I don't know if you know much about the chemistry of them but they basically are a different drug, when you smoke cannabis you pretty much just get all THC and it goes straight to your brain (because of the pathway from the lungs that doesn't require circulation through the bloodstream, I mean) whereas when you eat it not only does it circulate through your body first, but it metabolizes into 11-OH-THC so heavily first that according to the science I've seen, it's reasonable to expect that there's about a 1:1 ratio of THC to 11-OH-THC floating around in you, and I've also read scientific studies showing that 11-OH-THC has slightly higher efficacy at CB1 receptors than THC too, so like... yeah, different drug, different molecule, different distribution, different receptor activities. I'm super excited I finally live somewhere where I can go out and just buy precisely dosed edibles, it's great (also just cannabis being legal at all, that's really nice too). I highly recommend treating it this way if you want to give it a shot to see what it can really do for you, like I'm very attentive to the exact multiples of 10 mg I take and everything, hoping to write a more thorough report eventually.

FYI though "watch out" for fast-acting edibles and sips. While another truly fascinating piece of science, I looked into them and the reason they're fast-acting is because they used a special coating that causes the THC to absorb through your mucous membranes and get into your brain quickly while avoiding first-pass metabolism similarly to smoking. I thought they were really cool as a novelty but annoying also because when I first got here I kept trying to buy edibles and kept realizing over and over I accidentally got a fast-acting one and I was like damn it, I just want some traditional edibles lol. It is really neat the gummies can get you high so fast, but it does indeed feel basically like a smoking high to me.

I had one Salvia experience that stands out with me on breathing. I had taken a third hit off the pipe and held it in. I could have held it in forever. No desire to breath. Like I was standing just outside of myself. I did breath after a minute but totally had no need. But I remember my body saying I probably should. No telling what would have happened it I did not breath.

This one does sound super relevant to me. My spider sense tingles now when I can sense people talking about these things. I wonder indeed what would have happened.

If it wasn't obvious enough from my story it's kind of hard for me to recommend that someone get themselves to the same place I was in when I started experiencing all this stuff. But I'm more than willing to talk about it to anyone who wants to discuss it and come to their own conclusions and decisions.

Another thing I think is interesting and worth considering is that serotonin neurons seem to play an important role in modulating breathing rate and the 5-HT2A receptor has even been shown to be what wakes you up as a result of carbon dioxide flooding your brain when you're suffocating in your sleep, and also of course carbogen has a "psychedelic" effect. I wonder if this relates to how psychedelics can affect similar systems in the brain as what I'm describing here being done by oral THC and salvinorin A. Just throwing it out there though, don't have too much to say about that yet.

So that is a lot to throw out. Sometimes some of the stuff you all throw out I want to organize in one spot as it is some good stuff. Too good to be scattered. But again that post needs more reading. If I get off my butt I will do that and let you know.

Taking notes helps tremendously, it has my recommendation. I use the notepad in my phone all the time to document things I'm feeling or experiencing during altered states and make tables while testing them against theories I read online or ideas I picked up on from other trip reports and such. I also make long posts like I do in part to make sure that the information actually goes somewhere and isn't just lost in my head forever.

Like I said though take your time if you want to respond, I've got plenty of it right now. I'll just be over here dancing.

 

[arrall]

Thank you so much for the in-depth report @Kaleida, I will also be taking some time to fully re-read and unpack it all (mainly because I’m on DOC right now and reading is more difficult than it is for me sober)

I just wanted to thank you a lot for writing these kinds of reports, because they are incredibly interesting, profound, and enjoyable to read.
I’m not sure if you know this (and I definitely haven’t mentioned it in the public forums before) but your reports are actually what got me to first make an account on Bluelight.
I saw someone mention your reports on Reddit, and I recall that I had to make an account to either go to your profile go use the search engine and find them.
I then logged back in a while later to ask @Xorkoth a question about DOC, and I am now fatefully trying DOC for the first time today while visiting him & his girlfriend in person.
And now, I obviously help run the site and the Discord and everything.

Basically where I am going with this, is thank you for writing up all of your experiences. They are incredibly informative, interesting, profound, and fun to read. And you probably impact a lot more people than you realize with them. Thank you @Kaleida, you truly are an awesome and incredible person.