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[swilow]

Really got post-shuffle legs today.

 

[Xorkoth]

My legs are killing me after the market tonight.

 

[Help?!?!]

My legs are killing me after the market tonight.

I took a few mile walks and could barely walk today, calves hurt so bad! Hopefully once everything stabilizes with my meds there will finally not be in constant pain. It's the pain has changed me into someone who would do next to anything to even just dull the pain for a couple hours.

 

[xammy]

This one very nice girl is coming over tonight, i've been cleaning up my place, changed clean sheets, washed the dishes etc. Im pretty excited

Some nice movie, red wine and maybe some gaNja should make a great night I might end up even taking mdma with her if shes up to it, woahh. I havent seen her in years as she was living abroad, now shes back home. We went to same school back in the days ~8 years ago haha

 

[swilow]

^Have fun

 

[swilow]

~Know thyself~​

You know when you hear a phrase, a little snippet of speech, a quote and it just hits the centre of the brain as the most immediately powerful and meaningful IDEA you have ever heard. That usually fades but little echoes remain. Little smoke, rising balloons of truth, flying towards the sun!



Ha, my brother just came over to my house wearing a full wizards outfit, moon and stars, pointy hat and a big old glittery wand.

And his wife appears to be wearing something the Amish would hand-sew, plus she has gifted me with a rake.

He rode in on the winds.

 

[Xorkoth]

Nice

I'm feeling withdrawly, preparing some poppy tea. I'm getting 3 8mg suboxones soon, I'm going to use 1-2mg doses of that when absolutely needed and hopefully get almost all the way down from that before ibogaine... on the 26th.

 

[coelophysis]

Glad to hear you're getting on the bus to No-More-Opiates-Ville Xorky :D

 

[Help?!?!]

I can never tell with life...., at times everything feels so cosmically alinged, then at others it feels so loose, or even as if something is lording over reality. It really can drive me crazy, then I just take a deep breath, and remember that the only real important knowledge in this universe is your own. That or meditate.

Glad to hear you're getting on the bus to No-More-Opiates-Ville Xorky :D

Hopefully ill be on opi's with my first PM appointment or something to control my raging pain besides the small amount of pregabalin(I know, I know, been talking about this forever but got really ill for the last one.). Less than a week to go(Highday!).

 

[Roger&Me]

is there any actual real evidence that ibogaine is effective for treating opiate withdrawal?

all i've ever seen are like testimonials and stuff, seems kinda sketch tbph

i guess i could jsut google search

 

[coelophysis]

~Know thyself~​

For me one of the phrases is "Seize the moment."

 

[Folley]

Really got post-shuffle legs today.

Story of my Saturdays, lol.


Took some Foxy Methoxy and spent all night spinning Psy/Hard Trance. It's honestly almost getting to the point where I'll go to parties sober just so I can play for all the fucked up people and show them something new. Foxy is weird though, seems like it really intensifies the music but doesn't distract from it..

 

[Xorkoth]

you should try aniracetam imho, its got a really nice subtle stimulant effect to it

much nicer than piracetam ime

I found an old container of aniracetam recently and started using it, I agree now, it is nicer than piracetam, although I find piracetam to be a little "sharper". However, I can now say that phenylpiracetam is much nicer than either. The effects are much more noticeable, it definitely gives an interesting kind of stimulation and mood lift too.

Took some Foxy Methoxy and spent all night spinning Psy/Hard Trance. It's honestly almost getting to the point where I'll go to parties sober just so I can play for all the fucked up people and show them something new. Foxy is weird though, seems like it really intensifies the music but doesn't distract from it..

I had foxy twice when I was 19/20, before I had even read Erowid that much, I had never heard of it and knew it only as "Foxy", not as 5-MeO-DiPT. I had a really fun time on it, even though the guy selling the doses told us that 20mg was the standard dose. I think the 2nd time I even had 22mg. I recall it intensifying music quite significantly, it was very emotionally impactful.

One of my friends would get overwhelmingly intense visuals from it, like the walls around her melting and burning and patterns overlaying everything. I myself didn't get any visuals from it.

 

[Xorkoth]

is there any actual real evidence that ibogaine is effective for treating opiate withdrawal?

all i've ever seen are like testimonials and stuff, seems kinda sketch tbph

i guess i could jsut google search

Yeah I am not sure whether the mechanism is understood or not but it is widely known to literally block opiate withdrawal for multiple days, maybe like 8? One of the testimonials is our morninggloryseed, also I know of at least two other BLers who have done it for opiate addiction who can attest to it. It happens; how it happens, I do not know.

 

[coelophysis]

Man, I have oxiracetam, aniracetam, piracetam, and I think one other variant. I've tried hard and followed all the guidelines but they've never done anything for me.

 

[Xorkoth]

If you care to, check out phenylpiracetam, to me it feels different, like it gives an actual light stimulant-type high, very mild, but very nice and definitely above placebo.

I'm also interested in coluracetam, if you haven't before, look it up, it's unique in its effect to any other drug ever discovered, something about strengthening the acetylcholine machinery, I think?

 

[amanitadine]

is there any actual real evidence that ibogaine is effective for treating opiate withdrawal?

all i've ever seen are like testimonials and stuff, seems kinda sketch tbph

i guess i could jsut google search

Hey Rog, there is a lot of hocus pocus mumbo jumbo amongst the "Ibogaine community" about it "resetting the brain" yada yada....but pharmacologically it isn't as much of a mystery as most seem to think it is...

Check this out: http://www.ibogaine.desk.nl/ch02.pdf

Check out the human and binding studies Debora Mash did, or the work by Stanley Glick up at AMC...cool guy...

Shit ton of animals studies on PubMed and Wiley, etc too....18-MC is some pretty fascinating stuff too....I've been communicating with one of the researchers for the patent holders for awhile...they recently got like an 8 million dollar grant from the NIH for human studies....I'm trying to weasel my way in there

Those numbers in the first link should explain it to ya! It all makes sense pharmacologically.....Ibogaine, and especially it's primary metabolite nor-Ibogaine, have significant affinity for the MOR, as well as the delta and kappa....when you are taking over a gram of the stuff it "stopping withdrawal" is basically guaranteed, even for heavy duty IV heroin addicts. Nor-Ibogaine is very fat soluble, and can be detected in the blood for weeks post administration, thus making the smoothest taper off ever....plus it's ki at the NMDA receptors is nothing to sneeze at, and nor-Ibo is a potent SRI....look at the chart, they are very messy drugs, in the best possible way for an opioid addict...Hit everything you could possibly want them to to assist in such an ordeal....And hit the receptors you want for all the post acute stuff too..

Enough affinity for 5HT2a to be classically psychedelic, but it's activity at the kappa and NMDA receptors almost lend more to the experience IME....very dreamlike and dissociated, yet you remain pretty damn lucid...amazing closed eye scenes, and incredible classic tryptamine visuals with eyes open. I was still seeing wicked tracers in the morning and evening for 4 days last time. The main effects are about 24 hours long....it is very intense psychologically, but never fearful, whatsoever....pretty amazing stuff. It just gives you a door to step through, the rest is up to you..

I keep intending to write up a TR summarizing my two experiences, and laying out the pharmacodynamics in lay mans terms, but have been too busy..

Xorkoth, you have nothing to fear, it just takes you, and you've got plenty of experience under your belt. Would *strongly* suggest staying away from the buprenorphine before however.....they dont play nice together. The 37.5 hr mean half life of bupe does Ibogaine no favors, and the kappa antagonism of bupe presents a problem. Stick with the seed tea.....you are doing it like every other day, yeah? Just stick with that, and lower your dose as much as you can prior, and be as sick as you can. Ibogaine at +1g will blow those withdrawals out of the water, and give you an amazing oneirogenic experience to boot. The lack of cravings afterwords is oh so nice as well.

I been meaning to post some more details and answers to your questions in the Ibogaine thread, I will, just been busy as hell lately...springtime, farming and all.....bare with me! I think it is exactly what you need, and you are the ideal candidate man. Soon you will be free of those pesky opioids :D

 

[Help?!?!]

Awwww shit, one hundred and eighty pages, and still chugging? I guess that means we are the champions of BL, bet a bunch of lounge hats are crying that they didn't win at.....wait, lounge and winning? Those two should never go together!


I hate life so much mang that I often wonder why I'm still here, then I remember what I never forgot in the first place.... Seriously though life..., you best be "Hell", then when I die physically my energy will just disperse like it had never aligned in the first place. God damn though, just a bit of a breath catcher here even to much to ask for? These days I feel it is..... Without my dog and cat I think I'd go crazy but these last couple of months have been pretty severely depressed at times which made it hard to.....do what I like to which is nearly smother them with love. I feel bad though because my little girl dog just always stares at me when I'm sad and thinking. I know it's eating her up that I'm being eaten up, which in turn eats me up. I try to pretend to be happy and play with them but it's like they know it's a fake day by the way they act. I find animals to be much better at sensing emotion than human, especially when you and the animal are companions.

At the end of the day though I realize that I'm here probably to ramble incoherently on the internet and let people realize there is always crazier or something worse. I'm talking base level as well never having touched a substance. The great thing though is, when my timer finally zero's, I'll know that help will still be around because help is always around. This is something I am often happy about, everyone else's internet persona will eventually die, but mine? Get even a mildly functioning cognition with scrape by grammar....... dead ringer! Ha!



Disclaimer : Don't worry much I've always been this way, in fact for a bit when legal fly guides was going, I would post such shit shows. Just a release for me. If Del reads this I'm sure he'd tell you he thought I was wack. Maybe no UnSquare but shit!To those wondering, yes I indeed insane, but who isn't these days?!?

 

[xammy]

What a night yesterday. Wow. I fucking love this girl We talked and laughed for hours and watched a movie. Nothing erotic happened but thats better as it was the first time we basically saw and talked really IRL.

It came up that we've been in same places travelling around Europe. It felt like we had known for ever when this was the first time I got to know her. Fantastic

Why is life giving me so much joy nowadays? Some good karma

 

[Morninggloryseed]

is there any actual real evidence that ibogaine is effective for treating opiate withdrawal?

all i've ever seen are like testimonials and stuff, seems kinda sketch tbph

i guess i could jsut google search

Because of the controversial nature of ibogaine, there isn't going to be much real world data...but in animals ibogaine blocks opiate WD, hands down, no questions asked.

I'm doing marginally better, on the other hand I'm doing a fuck ton better than a week ago. I should be all moved out of here by the end of the month, thus ridding myself of a lot of the stress that drove me nuts in the first place. I have a job prospect which could not come at better time.

I am in 'therapy.' She is a nice girl, I have gone there three times now and essentially recounted yet again the story of my life, and all the stupid shit I have managed to do since 2012. I am not sure what I am supposed to get or feel but it is perspective. I mean I know I lost my marbles but many would in my circumstances.

I think living in a new place will be good for me. Working again will be better. What sucks is after ibogaine 2013 I felt soooooooooo good, didn't think about opiates ever again. I relapse one time, now two weeks post ibogaine I am finally to where I am not craving it, I am not thinking about it, but my body hurts and it hurts bad. And it is hard to get out of bed. So yeah, not really craving it but I still wouldn't say 'no' I think if I had something worth throwing it all away for.

Is this what the therapy is supposed to fix? If that is the case, I am in a lot of trouble.

Oh, and my lovely cousin Fatima from the Empty Quarter of Arabia is coming to visit me tomorrow, she is even bringing some LSD and DMT. I sure love my cousin. This visit from the sexy and mysterious Fatima could be the much needed therapy after all.

Edit: yay Xammy. All we need is love. Sounds good so far.