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entheo said:
^ and how exactly do you pull that off?
I alway wait until I'm no longer high, at least 3+ hours after vaping to redose but I generally need a massive dose just to feel anything.
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your initial doses were probably too high. synthetic cannabinoid tolerance is a really slippery slope, once you start doing too much it can build up like a snowball rolling down a mountain.
 
^ never hide feeling and thoughts. Just make sure illegitimate drug use is never on your record and you are good to go. I go to psychotherapy once a month, and psychiatric therapy another 1 time a month.
 
thenightwatch said:
your initial doses were probably too high. synthetic cannabinoid tolerance is a really slippery slope, once you start doing too much it can build up like a snowball rolling down a mountain.
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I don't think they were too high since I started from 1mg. But I used to sell and abuse hash and had a nearly limitless amount of JWH-018, 73, 91,200, and 250 for about a year. I smoked about an eighth of dank everyday I was using those as well. Up until 18 month ago I hadn't gone a day without smoking since I was 12.
 
^ yeah your tolerance was probably just totally boned then.

also, if you stick to using smaller amounts of cannabinoids i think your body can actually get *more* sensitive to it. i used to do the same thing with "real" weed... an eighth of chronic would last me two weeks getting high at least twice a day.

light it slowly (don't torch it), hold in your hits, and realize that it actually takes 15-20minutes after smoking before your high peaks.... and a small amount can last a very long time.
 
Good advice. I think I'll just stick to normal marijuana from now on though, it has a less compulsive high ime. Plus I only get to smoke the real thing 8-10 times a year.
 
I used copious amounts of synthetic noids when I had to piss clean for a job and that shit didn't come without it's side effects. One time I was having trouble sleeping so I took 50mgs of DPH and smoked a bowl of some potent incense and I had a full blown seizure, when I came to I was extremely confused but I was told I was flopping around like a fish out of water. This scared the fuck outta me and I immediately ceased any synthetics but I had what I can only describe as vertigo or loss of equilibrium for WEEKS afterwards, I would constantly get real dizzy out of nowhere. However this is with blends and not the pure chemicals so who knows what caused all that really...

On a side note... I'm feeling pretty good, plugged 80mgs of aMT about 3 hours ago. Listening to this song is causing some temptations, maybe I'll throw in about 25 or 30mgs of 4-HO-MET to spice up the visual field.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4cbOIIAQ7Kc
 
So you're manic and/or benzo-rebounding (decided to get off the benzos, before they became a problem), unable to eat a decent meal, and getting three hours of sleep a night tops. What do you do Never? Dose meth in the late evening and reduce sleep to zero, on a work-night, and repeat the next night! I'd critique my decision making skills but mania justifies my stupidity (was light headed/nauseous a good part of today, slightly worried I'll like pass out, vomit, or critical brain failures while at work tomorrow). Also, it's very appropriate to watch Frozen while on Ice (shutup people who want that only refer to the non-existent 4-MAR, you can't hold back my linguistic tomfoolery). Yes. that is what I did today and yesterday, or rather yesterday and the day before. I've seen it three times, but I don't think y'all are Disney fans so I won't bore you with my opinions. At least the meth actually chilled me out from my agitation somewhat, though not my heart-rate/BP. Lack of sleep and sustenance are catching up with me though, emotional collapse inevitable, but I should pick up my meds on Monday and from there an ascent into stability (did I say I specifically avoided filling my script for several days because I wanted to enjoy my mania?)

At least I'm going for P.O. administration, the prolonged, moderate high and far gentler comedown (vs. vaped, don't know why I stuck with that and the disappointing intranasal back in 2011) are helpful. I can handle hours of mild-moderate discomfort given my elevated mood, even if physical discomfort is increasing proportionally with sleep deprivation. Oddly I still consider myself as "not using drugs currently", stimulants just have such a low abuse liability for me that they seem like soft stuff, especially when compared with the ever-accessible ethanol.
 
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^meth? ...soft? hm. maybe I will try it one day lol

stimulants have a low abuse liability until i'm high on one and have the urge to play an instrument. Then i'm craving a huge redose and trying to jam my ass off until I feel like shit haha.

music is my stimulant of choice =D

but I did do some VERY pure cocaine the other day and that was a pretty great feeling until 4:am when all my muscles were tired from playing drums/looking down at a keyboard for so long, so I took a 2mg xanax, slept for a whole 13 hours, and woke up feeling right as rain, albeit still a lil wobbly from the xans. I think a lot of the hangover from cocaine comes from the cuts that have longer lasting effects in your body.

a good way to prevent yourself from being unable to get hard while taking stimulants or drugs that prevent you from getting erect is to take some ginseng along with whatever you're taking. The stuff turns me into a race horse. Couldn't recommend it more haha
 
Never Knows- I am severely concerned with our propensity for stimulant abuse; coupled with your diagnosis of bipolar II disorder. It may seem to you like they aren't causing much of a problem but the fact that you have contemplate them with such intensity and use with high frequency is akin to self-endangerment.
I myself cannot use stimulants for the same reason, I become hyper manic and make horrible decisions.
 
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do you have a therapist? I'm kind of interested but I feel like I will have to hide a lot of things from them :/
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Yes, I missed my second appointment with them by mistake in transcribing appt. time to my calendar, and won't see'em till next month now. I hope to learn stress-coping techniques besides avoidance, and perhaps gain the ability to engage in long term planning.

the fact that you have contemplate them with such intensity and use with high frequency is akin to self-endangerment.
I myself cannot use stimulants for the same reason, I become hyper manic and make horrible decisions.
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You have a point, I have been almost reveling in my poor decision making (unless we're counting the mystery drug thing, I feel bad about having done that). OTOH, ~200mg over the course of a weekend is fairly tame.

P.S. Hooray, I was able to sleep some, and eat real food today. I sorta lost my sanity a couple times yesterday, and God knows what would have happened if I was awake for a fourth day.
 
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Wow, it's dead in here. Is my forum participation so missed? ;)

I'm doing better now, if it seemed dark I was doing stuff again. Anyway, just chillin' I'm hoping therapy will help me develop better coping mechanisms (avoidance is so not helpful), and the ability to think about the future without freaking out. Meanwhile, I will be going for my sixth viewing of Frozen today ("The Snow Queen" in some of you eurofolk's countries). I'm a bit obsessed, but it's my first time being blown away by a Disney film, easily their best since The Lion King, and that came out when I was 4 (so I never experienced it as something new).
 
Hey brother I try to post in our social as much as possible, I think it's just due to the fact that many PD posters are greenlighters or haven't been active in PD for years like we have. How's everyone's weekend?

I absolutely can not wait for my DOC!
 
I have 180mg of pure DXM hbr powder, is the best roa oral?

I try to post in here often, as it very much feels like a journal to me, but with penpals at the same time =D

also, I have been watching all the MAPS youtube videos about neuropharmacology they recently posted and if you have basic knowledge of receptor systems and brain anatomy you can actually learn A LOT from those videos. Apparently Nichols recently found out LSD is a full agonist at the D4 receptor. I don't like the reputation full agonists have, but I love the reputation LSD has;)

astoundingly, 2c-i and DOI are extremely potent anti-inflammatorys, apparently someone reported 2c-i curing their rheumatoid arthritis to shulgin 2 weeks after ingestion. Then Dr. Nichol's son tested DOI on some rats and found it to basically be the most potent anti-inflammatory known to man, with potential medial uses. :D

we live in an incredibly fascinating time, a psychedelic renaissance of sorts.
 
SONN said:
I have 180mg of pure DXM hbr powder, is the best roa oral?
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yeah, with pure powder the best ROA is oral with a small amount of alcohol to aid absorption. DXM doesn't absorb very well on its own, but it does so readily with alcohol in your system. this is part of the reason why cough syrup has a small amount of alcohol in it. 1 beer or 1 shot will do ya.
 
Speaking of DXM, I did some polistyrex the other day (for film watching purposes), and bizarrely had a mind-shattering come-up at t+2hrs (like what I'd expect from a higher plateau dose of the HBr), before settling into the prolonged moderate experience normal to it. That drug is an unpredictable one.

SONN said:
astoundingly, 2c-i and DOI are extremely potent anti-inflammatorys, apparently someone reported 2c-i curing their rheumatoid arthritis to shulgin 2 weeks after ingestion. Then Dr. Nichol's son tested DOI on some rats and found it to basically be the most potent anti-inflammatory known to man, with potential medial uses.
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I've read some anecdotal accounts about the anti-inflammatory benefits of psychs, but it's pretty cool to hear about rat tests. Is there something to suggest the iodo-PEAs are particularly special or do you mention them by coincidence?

How's everyone's weekend
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I get to work on weekends so I've been keeping busy, and I do love the smell of paycheck in the morning (man, I was without income way too long).
 
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