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Speaking of psychedelic drugs: ...

I don't really care much for the distinction between softdrugs and hard drugs but very generally speaking you could get the general feeling that any drug that has as least one of it's effects that makes it feel severe in any way oughta be called a hard drug... it may be a way to express that distinct feeling. Anyway I just wanted to say that a lot of high affinity synthetic cannabinoids feel like a hard drug to me, maybe like high dose awesome weed with absolutely no tolerance or oral cannabis, or hash oil (which is also legally considered a hard-drug in my country, especially)... but as opposed to cannabis in general which feels like a soft drug to me, I am now pretty much on a level that you would normally expect with MDMA or LSD maybe but not weed.

At the moment with added beer though but still, I would even state the above solely based on my cannabinoid only experiences. In any case, you could make of this post "f&%k I'm high"
:)

Also, my sonata is coming along quite nicely - I have so much inspiration, haven't had this much in years... And I am preparing to mindmap pencak silat moves (martial arts) so that I can compose my own 'walk' (sequence of moves) as a demo for the upcoming style competition. :D
Made a yellow belt a month ago. ;)

Have a great weekend dudes.

And hi Xorky =D
 
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Psychosis, seizures, and the inability to finish a sentence. Synthetic noids can be 'hard' and I have to confess I have a soft spot for some of the synthetic cannabinoids.

Solipsis said:
Speaking of psychedelic drugs: ...

I don't really care much for the distinction between softdrugs and hard drugs but very generally speaking you could get the general feeling that any drug that has as least one of it's effects that makes it feel severe in any way oughta be called a hard drug... it may be a way to express that distinct feeling. Anyway I just wanted to say that a lot of high affinity synthetic cannabinoids feel like a hard drug to me, maybe like high dose awesome weed with absolutely no tolerance or oral cannabis, or hash oil (which is also legally considered a hard-drug in my country, especially)... but as opposed to cannabis in general which feels like a soft drug to me, I am now pretty much on a level that you would normally expect with MDMA or LSD maybe but not weed.

At the moment with added beer though but still, I would even state the above solely based on my cannabinoid only experiences. In any case, you could make of this post "f&%k I'm high"
:)

Also, my sonata is coming along quite nicely - I have so much inspiration, haven't had this much in years... And I am preparing to mindmap pencak silat moves (martial arts) so that I can compose my own 'walk' (sequence of moves) as a demo for the upcoming style competition. :D
Made a yellow belt a month ago. ;)

Have a great weekend dudes.

And hi Xorky =D
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Definitely! Under most circumstances, natural cannabinoid products are self-attenuating because they contain a mixture of cannaboids that have interacting MOA's... but isolate delta-9-THC or use synthetics that work very unilaterally and the effects can follow a linear dose-response curve without limits making the higher range risky: you might get super strong psychedelia, analgesis or euphoria... but the short term memory impairment may also go to an insane level (been there with AM-2201, JWH-081 or JWH-122 at a dinner party and home movie night! :D) or indeed psychosis or seizures.

I have similar feelings about it: most of the time I try to avoid them in favor of good quality naturals but every now and then getting super high or super stoned is appealing like hash oil / oral cannabis is occasionally appealing. Still, I don't really trust full agonists because of that apparent lack of self-attenuation (with NBOMe's it is the same).

Fortunately today I started with an apprehensive and cautious oral dose of AM-2201 (as did my best friend / housemate) and I upped that dose later. I hope my friend is alright - he wanted to boost his hash milk effects - but I am sure he is alright and just zonked out, he goes to bed at early hours.

Also, getting 2 grams of crystal meth for the first time as part of a really nice deal (it is very rare in my country), and oxy next week and I am considering plugging my 4-MeO-PCP one of these days and I wanna eat some home-grown shrooms one of these days when this streak of responsibility appointments is over... :)
 
Solipsis said:
Definitely! Under most circumstances, natural cannabinoid products are self-attenuating because )
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Thank you, was drawing a blank when I made my post and wanted to add that something along the lines of...I simply cannot smoke enough cannabis to get as high as I do on the synthetics. I suppose the old druggie in my likes that aspect (a lot).

PS SOunds like a fun night for you. :) Wish I could stop by.
 
so many people overuse synthetic cannabinoids. i knew people that would go through a gram of AM-2201 in a day. thats just absurd.

made into a blend, a gram of AM-2201 would last me about three months. and its not like i smoked it sparingly. i have no idea how some of these people blow through so much of the stuff...
 
morninggloryseed said:
Wish I could stop by.
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I'd invite you if it is ever realistic. :)

thenightwatch said:
so many people overuse synthetic cannabinoids. i knew people that would go through a gram of AM-2201 in a day. thats just absurd.
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On one hand it says very little since superpotent drugs tend to know super strong tachyphylaxis (that is: immediate tolerance development), if you would try to trip on NBOMe's or LSD all day everyday it would soon be absurdly wasteful... but as for the damage that is done by taking so much anyway?... I think regarding a lot of the action or relative lack thereof compared to the quantities... it is just a miss, but meanwhile your body gets used to being in those states and though we don't really understand such things very well I think that getting used to such strong effects would lead to high incidence of HPPD, derealization / depersonalization and psychotic episodes in those that are susceptible.
One example that I am really wondering about is for example what happens when a person takes a LOT of dissociatives over time and downregulates those NMDA receptors. Is it too simplistic to think that your consciousness is forced to find a way to reconfigure encoding of information and psychological processes with much less mediating units, or computing wet-bytes? I'm not sure, it does seem like the brain can take a lot and reverses this process when things get critical... and subjectively it seems like despite my dissociative use I can still learn well.

Anyway to sum up about synthetic noids: while we should always put things in perspective rather than taking them as they sound as a statement, I agree: best not to push it like that !!1!
 
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Roger&Me said:
wudup nevs!
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Hey rog! Nice to see you around, I kinda assumed your BL vacation would end up permanent. I trust your time away has led to healthier and more meaningful living.

Well, my life isn't prone to change, but the neighbor at the new place randomly invited me to join their D&D (really pen&paper RPGs/tabletop gaming in general) group, so I'm trying that out. It's fun, and gives a nice place to fit moderate drinking into my life, since I'm only using tobacco/caffeine regularly these days. Also, going to seek legit medical help for my anxiety, which has got a lot worse since May-ish.

So I dunno, things are happening? Hopefully modern medicine can calm my brain and let me think clearly (or think that I am thinking clearly, at least).
 
lol.
broke my fasting period with 2x25mg MXE (ir), while increasingly manically cleaning my apartment of a few of those little annoying re-traumatizers/nostaligizers [lost relationships, past times, passed friends, abandoned places] that gathered over the years. external mental hygiene. felt like I did sosososo much work. this cleaning up externally/internally drive of MXE is it's single most valuable effect.
with 30mg (ir) 2C-D on top things are really shining right now! <3
while coming up I tried to play the guitar but the MXE makes it quite a hassle. funny though. guitar-strings and dissociatives are such a neat combo (literally fell in love with my guitar on amt+ketamine. shits dangerous.)... :D
I fell into patterns that reminded me of this:


actually this is a pretty good description of the my current state. it's great. :)


gonna go far a walk through the city soon. hope you guys enjoy your sundays!


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beautiful, beautiful trip: first part extremely euphoric (those moments when you have to unplug your music before you explode all over the place [in this case: subway] in manic laughter %) ) than a quite abrupt but not out of nowhere switch to an extremely introspective second part. challenged by the subway ride back due to profuse sweating, white as a sheet, wrestling with thoughts - upon exiting I run into a notorious druggie friend of mine: he: "tzaapp?!" - me: "I'm tripping. just had a walk." he: "you look like shit!" - at this point I already know that he's fucked; probably K or "cocamine" as he calls it - me: "subway ride you know" - he: "I'm just eating [well, I can see that as he has those cheap asian noodles in his hands an digs manically in them] and visit a girlfriend" - me: "ok. bye" - he: "bye." ......... DAFUQ?!? =D .
anyway: VERY therapeutic and clear headed. got some lessons out of this one.

dose was: 2x25mg MXE one hour apart, 30mg 2C-D ~1h after the last MXE, 15mg 2C-D ~1h later. all plugged.
I can't tell whats the 2C-D part of this experience as I never enjoyed it on it's own (I know, I know..) but this combo is really, really good. actually I feel like I'll hardly trip on MXE alone anymore if there is no 2C-D to blend in with it's afterglow. and vice versa. it's that good. timing is a bit challenging as you want the 2C-D to peak as the MXE peak subsides. with plugging this is obviously easier but the "transition phase" is still quite chaotic - the first time I tried this was on a festival and the long oral comeup hit the MXE-peak...it was such a mess, very vague state of being, not "bad trippy", just fucked to the max. I wouldn't deliberately go through that in public again.

clear recommendation!
 
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Just what comes into cubase. That is me hitting buttons on a keyboard, and filling in patterns and cutting and pasting. I'm definitely not a drummer.
 
I love your Soundcloud subscription, MGS. It leads me to all kinds of cool stuff... But I came to this forum today to share a thought I had...

During chemical synthesis, you know, playing around with molecules, creating analogs of stuff that have a certain pharmokinetic effect... when that's done with DNA molecules is it straight up genetic engineering? I was just reading about DNA methylation, and I was thinking, wow, to think even someone like me to could eff around with that if I wanted to...
 
Since I will most probably be prescribed an SSRI, and lose my OTC and only dissociative, decided to for 350mg DXM tonight. I had a good sized dinner so it's quite mild, but pleasant. And though it remains firmly shut, in my mind's eye I was able to sit before the door to my Perfect World for a while. No longer does seeing and not entering make me freak out, I know it's there, and it will be waiting for me when the time is right. Still, I'm overdue for a visit, and I admit the prospect of losing my theoretical anytime access bothers me.

I'll miss coming on here and talking like a crazy person detailing the thought-emotion landscape of my dissociated mind to y'all. ;)

P.S. Shit! Just realized I've had my water boiling for like an hour, barely a third a cup left in there....Protip: Drugs and stoves do not mix.
 
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When I get internet on my darned computer and not this thing, I will be happy to check out all these soundcloud links that must remain mysterious to me with the present hardware. I am curious about the stuff you guys put up ya'know, I just can't access it. And I'm lazy. Or everyone seems to think I'm lazy, I don't mind, I think they're crazy/ running everywhere at such a speed/ 'til they find there's no need (there's no need) / please don't spoil my day, I'm miles away, and after all I'm only sleeping.

Why am I even on the computer right now. Where is my chamomile tea? Why am I linking this song instead of the one I was quoting?
 
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Never Knows Best said:
When I get internet on my darned computer and not this thing, I will be happy to check out all these soundcloud links that must remain mysterious to me with the present hardware. I am curious about the stuff you guys put up ya'know, I just can't access it. And I'm lazy. Or everyone seems to think I'm lazy, I don't mind, I think they're crazy/ running everywhere at such a speed/ 'til they find there's no need (there's no need) / please don't spoil my day, I'm miles away, and after all I'm only sleeping.

Why am I even on the computer right now. Where is my chamomile tea? Why am I linking this song instead of the one I was quoting?
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I'm surprised, my issues were taken seriously and an efficacious medication was prescribed, I'm hopeful that this will help me get my life on track, employed and otherwise socially productive. I don't abuse medication prescribed to me (I always take as directed by the doctor, the pharmacist had things to say too, but she was really cute and my mind blanked out until she broke eye contact with me), but I know a number of folks around here have had benzo issues, and I'd like you to admonish me to stay on the straight and narrow path of take-as-prescribed and never ever use with the intent of feeling good/banishing all negativity.

captaintom said:
george pearce stop stalking me
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Are you being haunted by the wraith of a deceased Australian politician? Is your location in the Arthurian sense, or in the sense of a city? I vote that you should live on Santa Catalina's Avalon, that'd be awesome.
 
RhythmSpring said:
MGS, do you listen to John Frusciante at all? Seems like he'd be an influence.
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Never thought about it, but I do love the Peppers through and through. However, to give credit where credit is due, any lead guitar you hear....except on the 'Theme Song'...it isn't me. I contract out lead guitar and (most) vocals to my good friend and take care of the rhythm guitar and all bass work :) Bless you for listening.
 
hey nevs, just don't take 'em every day (or really even every other day) and you won't become dependent.

Honestly, one of the worst parts about becoming dependent on benzos is that when you get off of them, you essentially can't ever use them again. nowadays if i take 1mg of xanax, all my muscles and my eyelids will twitch like crazy for weeks. so even if i have a hard core freak out panic attack i just gotta deal with it. it sucks too because i love the way xanax feels and i miss being able to use it occasionally.

most fun thing ever was to take 1 or 2mg of xanax and go out to eat, i just wouldn't give a fuck and i'd end up ordering half the menu lol
 
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