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[swilow]

Thanks for all the care and concern guys. It helps a bit. My uncle seemed okay yesterday- he had a heap of friends around where he is staying (my aunts house) and some jazz playing. Few joints making the rounds, all were relaxed. He had moments of sorrow that I noticed, particularly when myself, Miss Willow and my brother and sister left- obviously the idea that he may not see us again would cross his mind. He broke my heart a bit- (paraphrase) "Not really fearing this but I'd love a bit more time...".

There is a real beauty to this situation though. I could feel the presence of the infinite trying to burst through! Perhaps the reconstitution of matter begins somewhat before its current form is relinquished. My uncle seemed quite light....

I'm sorry man. That's really hard. I haven't lost anyone really close me to yet, but my father (who I am very close to) was diagnosed with ALS less than a year ago, he can barely use his arms already and is getting quite weak. Within a few years I am going to have to deal with that. So far I have cried about it a few times but it doesn't really seem real yet, even as I'm thinking of the words to write here.

That is very sad to hear Xorkoth. Am I correct in saying that ALS is also called motor neuron disease? (yes, I am says google). That is a tough fate to befall your father- and you to be a part of. Spend as much time as you can with him

I can understand that sense of it not being real. I daresay that is a completely normal, albeit slightly unhelpful, adaptation of the human mind. More often then not, we come to terms with adversity and suffering gradually- so when something abrupt occurs, something final, its almost beyond belief- the mind just shuts down.

Pitfalls of human.

 

[pharmakos]

happy birthday NKB

 

[pharmakos]

 

[Xorkoth]

^^ So true...

I had an epic night last night. I almost didn't go because I was tripping still a bit more than I wanted. But I got there and all was good. I drank more than I have in a really long time over the night but no issues from it at all, I was totally in control and have continuous memory and stayed up as late as I wanted. I was being pretty silly though, but sometimes it's good to just get wasted and be silly.

Thanks for all the care and concern guys. It helps a bit. My uncle seemed okay yesterday- he had a heap of friends around where he is staying (my aunts house) and some jazz playing. Few joints making the rounds, all were relaxed. He had moments of sorrow that I noticed, particularly when myself, Miss Willow and my brother and sister left- obviously the idea that he may not see us again would cross his mind. He broke my heart a bit- (paraphrase) "Not really fearing this but I'd love a bit more time...".

There is a real beauty to this situation though. I could feel the presence of the infinite trying to burst through! Perhaps the reconstitution of matter begins somewhat before its current form is relinquished. My uncle seemed quite light....

That was beautiful to read.

That is very sad to hear Xorkoth. Am I correct in saying that ALS is also called motor neuron disease? (yes, I am says google). That is a tough fate to befall your father- and you to be a part of. Spend as much time as you can with him

I can understand that sense of it not being real. I daresay that is a completely normal, albeit slightly unhelpful, adaptation of the human mind. More often then not, we come to terms with adversity and suffering gradually- so when something abrupt occurs, something final, its almost beyond belief- the mind just shuts down.

Pitfalls of human.

Yeah it's the worst form of motor neuron disease, there are different forms, some of them can stop after a certain amount of progression and some can take 30 years to kill, but ALS is an aggressive 5-7 year one (my friend's dad died from it a few years ago, he only lasted just barely 3 years). At first they thought it was just general motor neuron disease and then the specialist told him it was ALS. So far it hasn't progressed very far so there is still time left, plus we're going on a family trip to the grand canyon and bryce canyon and Zion national park.

I used to think these sorts of threads ('social' threads) were beneath this forum, or perhaps beneath me actually posting in one...but now I get a warm fuzzy feeling reading it, keeping up with it, and certainly from posting in it. I like that we can all connect with each other here, and share what music we are listening to, what drugs we are taking, our likes, hopes, fears, dreams, and aspirations. Ok, I am being slightly silly but I am not being sarcastic.

I knew you'd come around.

Xork, how often do you trip these days?

Well this past week I did a lot... I went a little crazy on re-entry I think, I want to be more moderate going forward. I see myself tripping regularly for the next little while though, I have a bunch of things I want to try and it's about to be Spring, and then Summer.

 

[Roger&Me]

higher education in america is a racket

its essentially a huge-ass tax on the middle class, they just don't call it that.

 

[Xorkoth]

They're trying to get rid of the middle class I think.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Free uni is not an answer. Providing a variety of options, or encouraging the development of such options, for young adults to learn career relevant skills is a real answer.

Maybe the skyrocketing costs of a college education have something to do with the decades long program of trying to tell schoolkids that they should go to college, 100% of them. You got your AP and IB classes galore, but where are the classes that give you experience with vocational work and doing things with your hands (compared to 50 years ago, for instance)? Degrees are on track to become a de facto caste divide, why the fuck do you need 2+ years college to be a summer fire lookout for the forestry service (no I will not get over this, I wanted to be like Jack Kerouac and Gary Snyder)?! Because the gov't is saying go to uni or GTFO, you lumpenproletariat scumbag.

Not to mention the simple supply and demand thing, 1/3 of Millenials (our generation) over 25 have at least a bachelor's, and most jobs young adults will be able to get their hands on do not require that (esp. if they're just starting out and have to resort to unskilled labor....forcing us unskilled laborers to compete with them ). I'm told this is fine, because getting a degree proves your a hard worker and have sticktoitivenes. Biggest crock of shit I've heard in my entire life, schools are soul destroying prisons to so many people, and prove nothing about one's integrity. I will shut up before I rant proper, prolly preaching to the choir anyway.

And thank you for the sentiment.

I'm feeling 90% after 6 hrs of broken sleep

I'm on day 3 awake, and if last time was any indication, if I get 4 hours of sleep tonight, I will feel amazing. Clearly my doses have been trending upwards, gotta try to do things old school pepper style instead. OTOH, the mild undercurrents of crazy I get near the end are kinda fun, even if I feel like garbage, physically speaking.

 

[pharmakos]

^ i wish Apprenticeship was still a common thing, like it was 100+ years ago

wanna learn to be a blacksmith? then you work for a blacksmith for free for a year while you learn from him.

good system imo.

 

[SONN]

^Mentors (people who are teaching a singular person not a class of people) can inspire passion into the pupil (make him care what hes learning about and want to learn more) much more directly IMO than a teacher teaching a class full of kids forced to be there

I just really randomly decided to cut a hit of acid into a right triangle and eat it, I've been drinking and took a mg or two of xanax last night but hopefully it will make st pattys day slightly more memorable.

happy trails everybody!

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

i wish Apprenticeship was still a common thing, like it was 100+ years ago

wanna learn to be a blacksmith? then you work for a blacksmith for free for a year while you learn from him.

good system imo.

Definitely, it must be a great way to learn (and while I hate to use the word like this, more "natural" than a lecture+paperwork based setting). I hope to take advantage of such an arrangement myself, if possible. Gonna have to do some messing around and see where my interests might lie first.

 

[SONN]

when it comes to arguing politics and all that I like to cite Timothy Leary's main argument:

we need to change and we need to facilitate a system that can change easily to adapt to the most appropriate form of government as technology advances and laws are complicated.

Edit: Apprenticeship still is a thing, albeit not popular. A sign painter from philadelphia came to my college and gave a lecture and he's currently accepting apprentices. The amount of hand dexterity and technical skill involved is so ludicrous that nobody can be taught such craft in a classroom

^just to give you an idea of the design intricacies

 

[coelophysis]

If anyone is interested in getting started on e-cigs to quit smoking. I wrote up this definitive spiel on how to get started up for under $50. It's a long read and I know not all of you are interested. But Help?!?! had some questions and it ended up turning into a mini book, so I took what I typed to him and tweaked it so that it can be read by anyone looking to quit smoking. Of course you can ask me more questions if you have any. It's the cheapest way to get off of cigs if vaping ends up being for you. Of course if you stuck to this and liked it, I would recommend higher end devices later on down the road when you're looking for something close r to indestructible.

Enjoy

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y0PSV7EGecdTFS3opmghuYV97HO30o_i8nJaqYPC73o/pub

 

[Solipsis]

Oh my god, my legs are killing me... I made it to the finals in the MMA style competitions but I didn't win, gonna need some extra time and experience to beat this competition and still get put into this class / level.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

we need to change and we need to facilitate a system that can change easily to adapt to the most appropriate form of government as technology advances and laws are complicated.

You do realize, old sport, that Leary doesn't say anything in this statement? It reminds me of Obama on the campaign trail, "Change you can believe in." Clarification: I am not disparaging the president with this statement, I don't judge his sophistry any more than I did Dubya's...grappling with words.

Great looking sign though, it's art, not just a material good to be traded for currency.

 

[pharmakos]

"what this world needs is more good ideas." -- thenightwatch



such a guru, i am

 

[Solipsis]

Good idea by proxy?

- "Please sir, help! Can you call 911?"
- "No madam, but I can call a friend of mine - he will gladly call 911 for you I'm sure"

 

[amanitadine]

Having birthday NKB!

Ive got plenty to say on higher education but I will spare you all because I'm cooking a vindaloo that requires delicate attention and yes, I raised the chicken and killed her yesterday. The only way to go about a proper Vindaloo!

Try the trades and others...as many as you can...the experience and variety alone is worth it. I've worked as a cook, carpenter, dishwasher, commercial fisherman, park ranger, chemist, illicit chemist, hotel maintenance man, aid to mentally and physically handicapped people, glass blower, artists assistant, artist, and now farmer....many more temps in that list...The list will continue too....I like variety

 

[Morninggloryseed]

Great job Laika. This is going in the files for safe keeping for sure. I sware whatever additives they add to cigarettes, they go a long way to perverting someone's mind into dependency. Cheap cigarettes are so absolutely disgusting...it isn't that tobacco is gross because I still consider hand rolled smokes to be sophisticated, and a delicacy...but the fact that (my best friend for instance) will spend his hard earned money on a product that makes him smell and gross, and will sacrifice work time risking sickness to go outside to consume that garbage when he can roll his own, or use ecigs is proof positive that something is off. I get it that ecigs are not the same as smoking, and some people find it isn't just the nicotine they are hooked on...but I cannot understand why a smoker of cheap, disgusting prerolled cigs won't go to roll-your own. He claims it is the 'convenience' factor but that is a total cop out because it took me all but 20 seconds to roll my own, complete with filter. One can even spend 5 minutes in the morning rolling a pack of 20, you can even buy a plastic 'pack' to store them in, fully substituting for the prerolled habit in every conceivable way.

If anyone is interested in getting started on e-cigs to quit smoking. I wrote up this definitive spiel on how to get started up for under $50. It's a long read and I know not all of you are interested. But Help?!?! had some questions and it ended up turning into a mini book, so I took what I typed to him and tweaked it so that it can be read by anyone looking to quit smoking. Of course you can ask me more questions if you have any. It's the cheapest way to get off of cigs if vaping ends up being for you. Of course if you stuck to this and liked it, I would recommend higher end devices later on down the road when you're looking for something close r to indestructible.

Enjoy

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y0PSV7EGecdTFS3opmghuYV97HO30o_i8nJaqYPC73o/pub

 

[SONN]

You do realize, old sport, that Leary doesn't say anything in this statement? It reminds me of Obama on the campaign trail, "Change you can believe in." Clarification: I am not disparaging the president with this statement, I don't judge his sophistry any more than I did Dubya's...grappling with words.

Great looking sign though, it's art, not just a material good to be traded for currency.

yea, the way I put it made it say basically nothing, but I think of it as just the idea that there is definitely no perfect system and we need to be constantly searching for the one that works best for where we are now, and until we do more experimentation and discovery were just going to be stuck to the same old traditions that will eventually be completely irrelevant due to advances in technology (the right to bear arms and such)

 

[coelophysis]

Great job Laika. This is going in the files for safe keeping for sure. I sware whatever additives they add to cigarettes, they go a long way to perverting someone's mind into dependency. Cheap cigarettes are so absolutely disgusting...it isn't that tobacco is gross because I still consider hand rolled smokes to be sophisticated, and a delicacy...but the fact that (my best friend for instance) will spend his hard earned money on a product that makes him smell and gross, and will sacrifice work time risking sickness to go outside to consume that garbage when he can roll his own, or use ecigs is proof positive that something is off. I get it that ecigs are not the same as smoking, and some people find it isn't just the nicotine they are hooked on...but I cannot understand why a smoker of cheap, disgusting prerolled cigs won't go to roll-your own. He claims it is the 'convenience' factor but that is a total cop out because it took me all but 20 seconds to roll my own, complete with filter. One can even spend 5 minutes in the morning rolling a pack of 20, you can even buy a plastic 'pack' to store them in, fully substituting for the prerolled habit in every conceivable way.

Definitely spread it around to anyone who seems interesting. I put a lot of heart and soul to get as much of the basic information as I could into that document, I really believe if someone follows that guide they can quit smoking, given that they find themselves the right flavor.

And yeah I used to love rolling my own cigs. Very easy and you just roll a bunch during your downtime and fill packs and you're set.
All those chemicals in pre-rolled cigarettes are really where the nasty addiction to cigarettes comes from for sure.