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Thanks guys, that makes me feel good. :)

Hey phenethylo, nice to see you posting here.

I decided I just won't be bored, I'm gonna eat, watch some of "The League" and paint my walking stick and then when it's done (in the next couple of days) I'll polyurethane it. I'm going to start making those to sell at the art market but first I'm gonna paint my own. It's the best walking stick I've ever had, Delsyd found it and gave it to me when we were camping. I bonded with it while I was tripping on mescaline and using it to assist me in walking up the river. :)
 
Hey man, how's it going? I'm super tired, work was fucking brutal today, I thought I was done and then my boss called, been working for a couple of hours since then, I'm gonna watch an episode or two and go to bed.

I did just paint a section of my walking stick. I'll post a picture when it's done, it's gonna be so awesome. :)
 
I can have around weed, DOC, MXE, alcohol, tryptamines and psychedelics phens, etc, and I'm fine with those. It's those empathogens... they just feel so good.

it's funny how peoples' brains are wired differently, i'm the exact opposite. if weed or mxe is around i'm gonna use it and as quickly as possible, but i could keep e.g. mdma around for years without even touching it. its not even that i don't like mdma, i love it actually, its just not compulsive at all for me. entactogens are just soo intense, i feel like they're stressful on the body and mind or something.
 
Yeah I agree they're stressful on the body and mind. The compulsion is similar to opiates for me (or to how opiates used to be before ibogaine miraculously extracted that from my brain), minus the physical addiction part. It's like, I know they're bad for me, but it's difficult to see reason behind the promise of feeling really awesome. So, now I know, I need to not keep empathogens around. Not that I can't ever do them, I just need to not have them and hold onto them.

I got up so I could go hiking before work... today is my day off going to the gym but I wanted to do some cardio, and both mountain forest hiking and cardio are really great ways to start my day. But my muscles are sore and I feel physically tired, so I decided maybe I should just rest today rather than keep pushing it. It's actually making me feel guilty a bit though. What a change from pre-ibogaine, when exercise was always something I had to force myself to do. Now I have to force myself NOT to do it.
 
Yeah it's nice. I credit the ibogaine, I came out of it totally resolved to take care of myself and that hasn't faded at all in 4 months. I'm stronger than I've ever been by far now and I have only been in this good of overall shape when I was in cross-country when I was 15/16. It's helped my life so much, I can't even adequately say. Getting started on it is the hardest part, once you start getting in shape it's so much easier, and you feel so much better that you don't want to stop. You have to do cardio too though. In the past when I worked out, I would just use a hand weight and work on biceps, triceps and chest, and maybe do crunches, and that was it. Now I work on every muscle group and do cardio. The cardio is the main thing that makes you feel overall better, and working your core muscles is probably next most important because it puts your whole body in alignment.
 
Yeah I agree they're stressful on the body and mind. The compulsion is similar to opiates for me (or to how opiates used to be before ibogaine miraculously extracted that from my brain), minus the physical addiction part. It's like, I know they're bad for me, but it's difficult to see reason behind the promise of feeling really awesome. So, now I know, I need to not keep empathogens around. Not that I can't ever do them, I just need to not have them and hold onto them.

you enjoy taking empathogens when you are by yourself? i go way too stir crazy taking them by myself. you must spend a lot of online time when you take them, or if not what are you activities usually like when you're on them?
 
Yeah I do, though with people is better, but a lot of the reason I like them is that they make everything feel awesome, hence why if I have them and I'm bored it's a big draw. If I'm hanging out with people then I'm not bored so I don't really have a compulsion to take them, so if I'm with people it's really just if that's our activity. I do spend a lot of time online, or listen to music, or both.

I don't take them often, because I usually don't have them. It's just if I do. I got this gram of methylone for a festival so it was sitting there, I got bored, bam, 400mg gone. It's compulsion based on availability. If I don't have any then I don't think about them.
 
it's funny how peoples' brains are wired differently, i'm the exact opposite. if weed or mxe is around i'm gonna use it and as quickly as possible, but i could keep e.g. mdma around for years without even touching it. its not even that i don't like mdma, i love it actually, its just not compulsive at all for me. entactogens are just soo intense, i feel like they're stressful on the body and mind or something.

^this!
Even in a one day roll, I never redose (never done methylone, though). When its over, its over...
Maybe emphatogens are less taxing on the body and mind for some people, at least in the short term.
 
Man what a brutal work day. I feel fried.

BUT, it was brought to my attention that it's Labor Day weekend which means I have Monday off. :) Plus, next week on Thursday through Sunday I am going to a 4-day music festival so I also have Thursday and Friday off. :) So I have a 2-day work week next week, capped by something I've been looking forward to all summer, or, more accurately, since I was 18. So... fuck yeah!

I hope something fun is going on this weekend too. I thought about asking the girl I'm into if she wants to go camping with me, since she said she does recently when we talked, but it's really short notice and I had decided I was going to wait for her to reach out to me since I think that's the healthiest thing for me to do. But Monday off... it means I actually wouldn't have to take a day off work to camp for 2 nights/3 days, and another opportunity for that won't come along until next year because the next one will be in November for Thanksgiving and it will be too cold, plus it's a family holiday.

Then again I'll be camping for 4 days at the festival. At the end of summer I always get this intense sense of "I have to maximize the time I have left!" because I love summer and winter bums me out. I've only camped once this summer when I meant to do it at least 3 times, and I'd love to go back to the same spot I camped the first time before it gets too chilly to river swim. This would be a perfect weekend but everyone I know probably has to work and it's way too short notice to ask off... except this girl. But I think my gut is telling me not to ask her. She clearly needs some space to figure things out even though our last talk was nice... it's too soon. It's a shame though, it's supposed to be a beautiful long weekend.

^this!
Even in a one day roll, I never redose (never done methylone, though). When its over, its over...
Maybe emphatogens are less taxing on the body and mind for some people, at least in the short term.

They're tougher on me than the other drugs I do (weed, dissociatives (MXE only really), psychedelics)... I just have compulsion issues with some things that I am working on. I'm not wrecked the next day or anything but I feel drained and down and get a hangover for sure, worse than I get from alcohol in general. I'm still struggling a little bit today from the methylone on Tuesday. I'm at like 80%.
 
I had a powerful solo trip last night on LSZ, 4-Ho-MET and smoked MET. First try of LSZ (dosage 1.5 100ug hits)- both it and the 4-Ho-MET kicked in within ten minutes of each other leading me to extended pre-panic anxiety. Tried so hard to calm myself; meditation, warm shower, guitar playing and drumming, but to no avail- panic started to kick in, thoughts were looping and time was slowing/reversing and I was getting sort of tunnel vision, feeling like a different person and getting frightened- until my brother said (paraphrase) "You're still you because I have always loved you and still do". Like a bucket of ice water on me, changed everything. Trip went ahead beautifully and we wrote/recorded music and are now sharing hash and MXE.

Peace my brothers :) <3

I'm still me! :D

edit: and incidentally, LSZ is a beautiful chemical and I will happily use it in lieu of LSD, which I do not believe I will risk trying to obtain for fear of the NBOME... And my brother may have secured an almost lifetime supply of LSZ so....

<3
 
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Hey willow! Good to see you post, I was just thinking about you earlier today. Sounds like a great trip. I really want to trip with my brother.

I'm probably going to take some DOC tomorrow and MXE at night. Then I want to keep my brain fresh until next Thursday-Sunday whereupon I will ingest many psychedelics for an end of the summer festival party!
 
I'm back from that horrible thing that people call work, never realized how long it had been since I've posted here.
On a different note, my 3 grams of 2ce came in today, so happy to be stocked up on that beautiful chemical.
It can be quite hard to come by these days :(
 
I'm not too compulsive with anything besides weed which i'm pretty happy about. So many people around me have so many problems with their shit I feel really lucky to have been smart about what to not get too into. Empathogens are lovely, but I'm like TNW, being alone on empathogens wouldn't actually be all that fun for me. I space out my rolls because if I didn't I would soon lose precious magic (which I totally lost before, but hydergine helped me get it back). The intensity of a clean mdma roll with a minimal tolerance is too good to not try my hardest to preserve the longevity of my usage lol. same goes for LSD.

I haven't been posting recently because I haven't had wifi. Just got it back :)

I missed yall <3

edit: the other night I had this very vivid dream that I put a plastic vial of LSD in my mouth then bit it and cracked it open and I remember just feeling all the acid in my mouth like 'holy fuck this is gonna be insane why did I do this now?' The rest of my dream was mainly me running around trying to make sure I was safe before I exploded into psychedelic fireworks. I don't really remember if it actually got that trippy or not though, it definitely would have been wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy crazier if I actually ended up chewing open a vial, but needless to say it was an adrenaline rush. The next day I woke up thinking I really did it for a minute or two 8o

btw I just made it to 1000 posts :D I feel like a real BLer now lol
 
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Just rolled for the first time on real MDMA. I love you all, the microcosm of kindred souls that PD is <3
 
Hey SONN! And hey psy, sounds like you had a beautful experience. :)

Last night I ended up doing MXE with a couple of friends. I hadn't done it by itself, not on top of DOC or mescaline or something, in quite a while. I had 30mg, then another 30mg, then 25mg, then 15mg, for a total of 100mg. After the 85mg, we started watching a music documentary, and for me it got kinda weird, the sound seemed to be coming through a filter and I couldn't make sense of the plot, something about it made me feel... incomplete. Usually when I do MXE there is this feeling that everything happening is connected to the trip and has some meaning or makes perfect sense in the moment. But this time I got this weird feeling of emptiness, almost like I had gotten stuck in this moment where there was nothing. Right after I took the final 15mg, I started feeling like the stuff I was holding (a beer and an e-cig) were utterly massive, and the fact that I was holding them made no sense. At the same time I almost felt sober, the physical feeling shrunk to a tiny pinpoint. Then some stuff happened, a neighbor came over to complain about someone parking in a spot and even though it was my friend who wasn't tripping that dealt with it, the energy of that interaction seeped into me. We smoked a bowl then and it kicked it into super high gear. All of a sudden I was skirting the hole, but still up and hanging out with my eyes open. The most unbelievably intense physical feeling was coursing through me, seeming to be trying to pull me down through the floor, through the earth, and hurtling through space. It reminded me of the feeling, internally, when I did hole on MXE, where it seemed like I was in an eternal moment that was more real than anything else. It was quite overwhelming because there were other people around. We went outside to try to shift gears and we all sat down and were more or less unable to talk (we all had about that much). The feeling kept growing and growing, though it didn't seem possible. I was starting to find myself wishing it would start to come down because my goal had been to remain in a social and talkative state but I was far beyond that. After a little bit I started to get the cold sweat, nauseous feeling. I tried to throw up but couldn't. Finally I realized I needed to just separate and lay down because I was starting to freak out a bit. So I muttered (barely able to get words out) "guys I need to go lay down". I stumbled inside and crashed down on the couch, and closed my eyes. Immediately that physical energy was able to converge into a circular loop centering around me and it transformed from overwhelmingly intense to the most comfortable physical feeling in the world, a feeling I remember from the time I holed on MXE. Mentally/visually basically nothing was going on, I was just basking in the feeling of perfection and feeling myself slowly turning and rotating. I remained there for hours although I had been meaning to just stay for a bit, and everyone else went to bed after a while. I couldn't really sleep but all night I was so utterly comfortable, except when I would open my eyes and get up to pee (which happened many times), at which point I would get dizzy again. I think I finally slept from like 7am to 9am, then I got up and came home. I drank water throughout the night because it seemed like a good idea, and plenty this morning too. I feel fine this morning, a bit tired and slightly buzzy, but totally fine and functional.

So, 100mg total of MXE is definitely too much for me to remain in a state where I can hang out with people. I haven't been that altered/fucked up in a long time, I was pretty close to panicking a few times. The whole trip was actually pretty weird, the last time I did MXE in this setting everything felt perfect, and like it came together, and like things were happening. This time it felt extremely disjointed and confusing, like I couldn't tell what was even happening.

MXE is pretty weird. =D Next time I'm gonna keep the dose lower.
 
yeah definitely sounds like you did too much, xork. i've got a crazy permanent dissociative tolerance as you know, and 100mg will have me on my ass some days.
 
I've done almost that much while I was on DOC or some other "base" psychedelic and I could still function... hell I was on 80mg and DOC once and I made dinner, and it was fucking good too. I wasn't fully comprehending what I was doing but my autopilot was working well, and I had some amount of conscious oversight. I underestimated how much stronger it would be without that. That, and how much weed would kick it up (I knew that but I couldn't have foreseen just HOW MUCH stronger it would get). Seems like phenethylamines, at least long-lasting physical ones like mescaline or (especially) DOC keep me more in touch with my body. DOC allows me to remain coordinated even, but the MXE mental weirdness is still there. Well, you learn something new every day. Crazy ass night though.
 
its weird, but dissociatives and psychedelics almost cancel each other out to an extent. still lots of euphoria and whatnot, but they can decrease each other's respective mindfuck if the conditions are right.

i actually once read a graduate thesis that someone did on that topic. the guy was administering them to himself and to his significant other. gonna see if i can find that paper but i doubt i'll be able to.... he was using some lesser known 5HT-2A / NMDA ligands that i was pretty unfamiliar with.
 
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