🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2025 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

[unodelacosa]

Thank you! I've got 15mg of miprocin weighed out. It's time for a new scale, it actually jumped between 14 and 18mg, but it landed on 15mg. I also got 22mg of 2cb weighed out in case I change my mind.

I've only tried it 3 times, but miprocin has been great every time. One time it was mixed with MDMA, and the feeling I got as the miprocin and MDMA hit my brain is probably some of the best I have ever felt in my whole life. I gotta try it again sometime.

Gonna head to the store now and will dose as I'm at the self-checkout. It's a 2 mile walk back home so I should be coming up nicely by the time I'm home. I'm hoping that the walk helps ease the body load going into the trip.

I'll let you all know how it goes!

I was going to suggest doing the Miprocin since it likely has the shortest shelf-life. Might as well use it sooner rather than later…

 

[porkstock]

I was going to suggest doing the Miprocin since it likely has the shortest shelf-life. Might as well use it sooner rather than later…

I've stored mine in the fridge, in a jar with silica packets to absorb moisture...for at least 9 years with no noticeable loss in potency or visual changes of the material. But yeah...it's still not as stable as 2c-x

 

[SuperPsych]

I was going to suggest doing the Miprocin since it likely has the shortest shelf-life. Might as well use it sooner rather than later…

That actually is one thing that considered going in. I've had the miprocin for maybe around 2 years. I've just kept it stored in a box on my shelf in the baggie it came in. It's since gone from an off-white to a very dark brown. Almost brown. No change in potency that I can ascertain.

I thank you all for your help in guiding me to make the decision that I made. I ultimately dosed 15mg of 4-HO-MIPT orally followed by another 5mg as soon as I hit the peak and saw that I was going to want to at least draw out the duration a bit. The experience was everything that I needed it to be. The only unpleasant part was a very short period during the come up where I felt very hot and a bit nauseous. It quickly passed and went into a nice clear headed, yet introspective experience.

There's a lot that I want to get into here, but I wont. Maybe I'll try do write a trip report. I've never really fully written about an experience in depth. It really has been a beautiful experience. Perhaps most importantly, I think it served the purpose that I wanted. Its helped me get passed the anxiety surrounding psychedelics over the last few years. I'm recovering from 10+ years of very heavy drug addiction, during which I had multiple concussions; so I've been worried about if I'm even stable enough mentally to handle them anymore. This experience has shown me that my mind is more intact than I realized and I think I'm ready to experiment with psychedelics again, which is good because I've built up quite a collection.

 

[Xorkoth]

That actually is one thing that considered going in. I've had the miprocin for maybe around 2 years. I've just kept it stored in a box on my shelf in the baggie it came in. It's since gone from an off-white to a very dark brown. Almost brown. No change in potency that I can ascertain.

Bummer, but I have heard many stories about tryptamines turning dark colors, brown, even black, and still working. Clearly there is some oxidation at the very last going on, but it seems like that doesn't cause much reduction in potency or is too much of a cause for concern.

For the future, I recommend having a small freezer box with silica in it, inside which you place your tryptamines inside amber vials. Using this method, I have kept all of my tryptamines, as well as my ETH-LAD and AL-LAD, in pristine condition for 7 or more years now. I just make sure to let the vials raise to room temperature before ever opening them, when I take them out of the freezer.

Glad your trip went so well! It's been a hot minute since I dosed any tryptamine, I need to take a tryptamine sometime soon, there is something quite unique and profound and healing about tryptamines as compared to phenethylamines, though I prefer phens overall.

 

[xammy]

I have a huge crush on my coworker. We spend most of the days at work chatting with each other, quite closely. I won't do anything but it's tempting sometimes. I am in the best relationship I've ever been and love my gf more than anything and she's in a relationship too. But talking with her feels good and gives some sparkle to boring work days.

Only a few days left before she goes so that will be that

 

[Xorkoth]

Sometimes having a crush can be nice, as long as you're not pining away in an unhealthy way. I have a crush on my bandmate's girlfriend... we're flirty with each other and good friends, too, we always spend a lot of time talking and hanging out when she comes out to events and festivals. Nothing will ever happen and that doesn't bother me... I wouldn't even actually want it to, as she's with my good friend/bandmate, and I have a girlfriend, and she and my girlfriend are close friends, too. But it's a fun energy to have, it makes you feel good to have the regard of someone in that way, whether or not anything happens from it. As long as your partner isn't jealous, it should be a perfectly healthy thing to have a flirtation or even crush with someone else, provided you don't go anywhere with it.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Let's say I was to grow some Mushrooms and had a surplus of them I wanted to store for the long term. Would I be able to grind them into a powder and then mix said powder with a bunch of honey and then place that into a mason jar. Then afterwards put that into the freezer for long-term storage? Would this be a better method of storing the shrooms for many years to come?

Then when I need some just let the jar unthaw an then take out however much of the honey/shrooms for me and my girl to use for awhile. How about just keeping the powder shrooms in large amber vials placed in the freezer would that help them retain potency better for the future?

How do people generally store there shrooms for long-term, any invite would be appreciated.

 

[Xorkoth]

Yes, you can do that, I don't see any problems with that, other than the annoyance of having to thaw it before dosing. You might consider mixing batches of, say, an ounce, or a half ounce, of powder, and freeze them in separated amounts, so it's easier to dose. Especially since you couldn't dose based on weight if it was mixed with honey, and it wouldn't guarantee to mix evenly.

I would just powder the mushrooms and store it in powder, and if you want to mix it with honey to dose, mix your dose with honey, it would be a lot easier to know how much you're taking then.

I just store my mushrooms in a jar in the closet with some silica packets. if you make sure they're cracker dry (you have to use a dehydrator), I haven't really noticed any loss in potency over time.

 

[Xorkoth]

So my insurance started denying my psoriasis medication (which costs $6,000 a month without insurance ). Last year they had no problems, but this year they're saying I've exceeded by yearly maximum coverage. But they're still paying for my other prescriptions, so obviously that's bullshit. Besides the fact that I had absolutely no insurance changes since last year and they paid for it with no complain last year. I've had my dermatologist working to appeal it, currently I am 2 weeks late, I am supposed to take it precisely every 28 days, this has been emphasized to me over and over. Without it, my skin breaks out in red, flaky, itchy, painful patches, and much more importantly, my psoriatic arthritis starts to degrade my joints and cause permanent damage.

Well the dermatologist called me back just now and said the first appeal failed, but they're trying to move onto a level 2 appeal, which will take 30-60 days. In the meantime, apparently they decided to cover it for next month. But they're sending it on the 2nd, and I'll be out of town for a week starting the 29th. So I have to have my cat sitter look for it, it has to be refrigerated within hours of being delivered or it goes bad. So now I have to worry about that. Apparently they said I was over my limit but they would "partially" cover it... since it's a once a month thing, I guess that means they won't cover every month, but they will cover some months. So apparently I am in a situation now where every month, the pharmacy will run it, and I may or may not be covered. Last time, they told me I was covered but then just never sent it, and never notified me, either, I only found out there was a problem because I hadn't received it and called them.

What a stupid clusterfuck. Basically the insurance company is trying to squirrel out of paying for it, and making it as difficult as possible for me in hopes they can get out of paying for it as often as possible. Fuck that. I've been paying them $800 a month since 2005 (I have been paying $140-180 a month, my work pays the rest, actually), and only in the past 2 years have I basically even used it beyond something here or there. Most of those years I didn't charge a single thing to the plan. And now that I need it, they're being sketchy. I fucking hate our medical system in this country so much.

Oh and the medication only costs an average of $600 a month in Europe. But 10 times as much here. I also looked, and they only charge the insurance companies $600, but if someone doesn't have insurance, they charge them $6,000. What the fuck kinda bullshit is that?

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I have a huge crush on my coworker. We spend most of the days at work chatting with each other, quite closely. I won't do anything but it's tempting sometimes. I am in the best relationship I've ever been and love my gf more than anything and she's in a relationship too. But talking with her feels good and gives some sparkle to boring work days.

Only a few days left before she goes so that will be that

Of such feelings, be wary. The path to the darkside, they lead.

Lol but really, there are lots of wonderful women out there. I hate meeting women I could have potentially been with. But in the end, the stability of monogamy is necessary in life. At least for me... it helps keep me sane. Soul mates are real.

As long as your partner isn't jealous, it should be a perfectly healthy thing to have a flirtation or even crush with someone else, provided you don't go anywhere with it.

And this is true. My wife and I have had crushes on others before. They come and go. It's not an evil thing, but as Xork said, you can't let it consume you.

 

[porkstock]

Charlie, I would think storing mushrooms intact would be better than ground. The fungal material can serve to protect the chemicals inside. Just make sure they they are cracker dry like Xork said, and store them somewhere cool. You could freeze them if you want, or even put the whole mushroom in honey like you mentioned. Why grind them though?

Xork - is it an antibody drug you take? I only ask because I work in that field. We mostly target cancer, but anything involving the immune system is a potential target. Looks like they have like a dozen different monoclonal antibody drugs from psoriatic arthritis

 

[Deleted member 521610]

the best to store mushrooms forever is to cracker dry them and them vaccum steal them and put them away in a dark draw. This will store the potency forever. Putting them in a freezer or honey is not needed

 

[SuperPsych]

For the future, I recommend having a small freezer box with silica in it, inside which you place your tryptamines inside amber vials. Using this method, I have kept all of my tryptamines, as well as my ETH-LAD and AL-LAD, in pristine condition for 7 or more years now. I just make sure to let the vials raise to room temperature before ever opening them, when I take them out of the freezer.

Glad your trip went so well! It's been a hot minute since I dosed any tryptamine, I need to take a tryptamine sometime soon, there is something quite unique and profound and healing about tryptamines as compared to phenethylamines, though I prefer phens overall.

I was actually thinking about getting some Amber vials while I was tripping because I remembered that's what you've recommended before. Unfortunately a freezer box might not be an option. I'm currently living with roommates. I trust them not to steal the whole thing, but one of the roommates is an alcoholic. I have nothing against alcoholics at all, but I know that when I'm drunk I want to take any drug that I can.

I agree, tryptamines just touch the spiritual more than phenethylamines seem too. That's why I chose one this time around. They're the ones most likely to fill me with a sense of awe and wonder. Overall I do prefer phenethylamines though.

I'm really sorry to hear about your issues with insurance. Insurance is one of the most evil and useless forms of BS that humans have ever dreamt up. I hope that your doctors appeals go through. American Healthcare is dreadful. I have put off getting medical help countless times just because it's usually a hassle, always expensive, and rarely helpful.

 

[Xorkoth]

Charlie, I would think storing mushrooms intact would be better than ground. The fungal material can serve to protect the chemicals inside. Just make sure they they are cracker dry like Xork said, and store them somewhere cool. You could freeze them if you want, or even put the whole mushroom in honey like you mentioned. Why grind them though?

Xork - is it an antibody drug you take? I only ask because I work in that field. We mostly target cancer, but anything involving the immune system is a potential target. Looks like they have like a dozen different monoclonal antibody drugs from psoriatic arthritis

No, it's ixekizumab, a biologic medication that suppresses a single pathway of the immune system to prevent the autoimmune inflammation from psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis. It's made by a genetically engineered microbe that produces the most outrageously massive and complex molecule I have ever heard of (chemical formula C₆₄₉₂H₁₀₀₁₂N₁₇₂₈O₂₀₂₈S₄₆ ). Still, $6,000 per 80mg... has to be the most expensive drug of all time.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I'm one week clean off bupre as of today. Proud but still miserable. Sleeping better but got splitting headaches a lot.

But I can do this. I DID do this. I'm proud of myself.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Hmm, not for me. it's been a long time but I remember 2C-D hurting bad, and I am pretty sure the first 2C-X I snorted was 2C-I and I was absolutely in disbelief by how horribly it hurt. I wrote about it in one of my old TRs.

I swear it must depend on the snorting depth/angle/force.
2C-P, 2C-D and 2C-I stung very mildly, but a tiny pinch of 2C-E had me in tears. And the 2C-D was like 40mg too

 

[cosmic charlie]

Love listening to Hamilton Morris content, just found this one I haven't heard before and figured I'd check it out on my day off. What a smart guy, he is and very engaging, this one is with Denis McKenna another brilliant man who has done us all a great service.

Was listening this one by Owsley "Bear" Stanley the other night that was really interesting, what an epic life that man had. Lot's of cool lectures on YouTube these days, I can never get tired of hearing about Psychedelics.

 

[porkstock]

ixekizumab

The mab part of the name means monoclonal antibody. This one targets interleukin-17A.
Pretty complex yeah, antibodies are much more complex than the chemical drugs and medicines we are mostly familiar with.
But believe it or not, this one should be relatively easy to produce in CHO cells. The big thing now is bispecifics targeting two molecules at once, they are much harder to make large amounts of - that’s my main responsibility at work. Hoping for a mAb for our next project but probably not.

Sorry about the insurance BS. Hope it gets squared away

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

I'm one week clean off bupre as of today. Proud but still miserable. Sleeping better but got splitting headaches a lot.

But I can do this. I DID do this. I'm proud of myself.

Good shit, maybe consider treating yourself to something

I had that realization on 3-MeO-PCE last week, like, wait.... why don't I just do this? If you can think of anything at least, that's the hardest part, but it works!

3-MeO-PCE really is a very good drug, it has depth to it, or maybe it doesn't and it just tricks you into thinking that. Either way there's a lot to experience there, both good and bad. I was looking forward to reevaluating all my thoughts when sober but I forgot entirely and I buried the rest in the ground under my tent so it'll be a long time until I'm there again.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I never got to try 3-Meo-PCE, I need to find some someday. Not need… want lol