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That's funny, I'm not too familiar with the metal scene, but I was about about to mention Meshuggah and then saw img_9999 get to it before I could. They are the only band I remember having a consciousness-expanding moment to, unless you count some of Tool's heavier moments as having a metal crossover vibe (that one time with Tool on DMT is particularly striking)
 
On a related note it sounds like at least a few of us had not-the-most great time the last couple days. Adulting hard and dealing with real life in general.
 
vortech said:
unless you count some of Tool's heavier moments as having a metal crossover vibe (that one time with Tool on DMT is particularly striking)
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Tool is also great heavy trip music. Just last week I had a pretty intense full blown psychedelic moment listening to Tool's Intention on AL-LAD + LSD :)


Just saw your previous comment Xorkoth. Sounds like a tough situation. Sending support !
 
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God, I listen to a lot of metal but I can't stand symphonic/power metal. I used to listen to a lot of finish power metal when I was like 14 (Sonata Arctica, Nightwish and Children of Bodom mostly), but nowadays I can't really find anything enjoyable about it.

Some metal band I regularly listen to while tripping are Meshuggah, Isis, DeathSpell Omega, Neurosis, Kayo Dot, Blut Aus Nord.
I also listen to a lot of ambient black metal when I take dissociatives :P
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Pretty much agree re: power metal. I don't like 80's metal and power metal reminds me of it. But Nightwish are in another league.

Nice bands too. You should check out Peste Noire, Alcest, Drudkh, Paysage d'Hiver, Darkspace though I'm sure u know em. That's the sort of metal I tend to get into.
 
swilow said:
Pretty much agree re: power metal. I don't like 80's metal and power metal reminds me of it. But Nightwish are in another league.

Nice bands too. You should check out Peste Noire, Alcest, Drudkh, Paysage d'Hiver, Darkspace though I'm sure u know em. That's the sort of metal I tend to get into.
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Yeah, great bands, like them all! Haven't given Paysage d'Hiver a thorough listen, but if I recall correctly they are another project of some of Darkspace members? I gave the first two first Darkspace albums lots of spins, but I haven't keep up with their later releases. There's a new band called Almyrkvi that gives me that same "cosmic black metal" vibe, they are really good, you should check their EP if you haven't.

I saw alcest live a couple of year ago. I'm stoked for their new album, apparently they are bringing the metal aspect back ! I thought shelter was ok, but it's not what I listen Alcest for. Souvenir is still my favorite from them. Do you like the whole post-black metal thing? I was excited when the first few albums came out, the first Alcest releases, Amesoeurs, Fen, that chinese split that came out on 2009... but I feel like the scene became quickly flooded by generic derivatives of the same sound, mostly mediocre. I still like Alcest, Altar of Plagues and Deafheaven a lot though. Last year was a great year for black metal in general, I loved the new Leviathan, and the new Mgla was pretty dope too. I was really impressed by a new polish band called Batushka that released a killer album last year too.


Never though I would discuss black metal in bluelight haha. I feel like that type of dense, dark metal is pretty "spiritual" music, though. Once I went to the forest at nighttime and listened to Burzum on 2C-E and had a pretty profound experience, I felt like there was a struggle between two opposed forces going on inside of me, there was this tension growing and growing, and then when the album was over I felt like none of them were victorious but both became stronger.
 
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Yeah, great bands, like them all! Haven't given Paysage d'Hiver a thorough listen, but if I recall correctly they are another project of some of Darkspace members? I gave the first two first Darkspace albums lots of spins, but I haven't keep up with their later releases. There's a new band called Almyrkvi that gives me that same "cosmic black metal" vibe, they are really good, you should check their EP if you haven't.

I saw alcest live a couple of year ago. I'm stoked for their new album, apparently they are bringing the metal aspect back ! I thought shelter was ok, but it's not what I listen Alcest for. Souvenir is still my favorite from them. Do you like the whole post-black metal thing? I was excited when the first few albums came out, the first Alcest releases, Amesoeurs, Fen, that chinese split that came out on 2009... but I feel like the scene became quickly flooded by generic derivatives of the same sound, mostly mediocre. I still like Alcest, Altar of Plagues and Deafheaven a lot though. Last year was a great year for black metal in general, I loved the new Leviathan, and the new Mgla was pretty dope too. I was really impressed by a new polish band called Batushka that released a killer album last year too.


Never though I would discuss black metal in bluelight haha. I feel like that type of dense, dark metal is pretty "spiritual" music, though. Once I went to the forest at nighttime and listened to Burzum on 2C-E and had a pretty profound experience, I felt like there was a struggle between two opposed forces going on inside of me, there was this tension growing and growing, and then when the album was over I felt like none of them were victorious but both became stronger.
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I know that feeling of epic dualistic battle in music. These days I'm more like 'down with duality, up with trinity!'. My newest song explores that paradigm of a balance between 3 or even six points. It is called ' The Tao of Chi'. It might take a few listens to get the flow, but its one of my favorite tracks right now. Direct download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0bzngre-0bn01um1fexmtdmxgwlu/view?pref=2&pli=1 Soundcloud link:
https://soundcloud.com/vostek/vostek-the-tao-of-chi-beta
 
This is going into super philosophic territory, but instead of thinking left right/good bad/up down/logic emotion/male female etc, I feel like the 'battle' in me is an equilibrium between the monkey ?, robot, and angel ? inside me. When I reach 'unity consciousness' it is a peace treaty and synchronization between these three aspects of consciousness.
 
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This is going into super philosophic territory, but instead of thinking left right/good bad/up down/logic emotion/male female etc, I feel like the 'battle' in me is an equilibrium between the monkey ��, robot, and angel �� inside me. When I reach 'unity consciousness' it is a peace treaty and synchronization between these three aspects of consciousness.
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There's a nice quote I read from one of my university books, I suppose you were referring to this? :)

There is a battle of two wolves inside us. One is evil. It is anger, jealousy, greed, resentment, lies, inferiority and ego. The other is good. It is joy, peace, love, hope humility, kindness, empathy and truth. The wolf that wins is the one you feed.
 
Img_9999 said:
Yeah, great bands, like them all! Haven't given Paysage d'Hiver a thorough listen, but if I recall correctly they are another project of some of Darkspace members? I gave the first two first Darkspace albums lots of spins, but I haven't keep up with their later releases. There's a new band called Almyrkvi that gives me that same "cosmic black metal" vibe, they are really good, you should check their EP if you haven't.
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Thanks for the recomendation, will check it out.

Paysage d'Hiver is one fo the guys from Darkspace. Very similar in many ways, usually totally raw and murky but with beautiful melodies flitting through the howling storm. Most of their albums are similar; I usally load 5-6 of them in a playlist and shuffle it.

Re: Darkspace. Darkspace III is my favorite album by them; defintiely worth a listen. The most recent (Darkspace III I, their fourth full length) did nothing for me though.

Check out Sun of the Blind, another side-project from the same guys.

I saw alcest live a couple of year ago. I'm stoked for their new album, apparently they are bringing the metal aspect back ! I thought shelter was ok, but it's not what I listen Alcest for. Souvenir is still my favorite from them. Do you like the whole post-black metal thing? I was excited when the first few albums came out, the first Alcest releases, Amesoeurs, Fen, that chinese split that came out on 2009... but I feel like the scene became quickly flooded by generic derivatives of the same sound, mostly mediocre. I still like Alcest, Altar of Plagues and Deafheaven a lot though. Last year was a great year for black metal in general, I loved the new Leviathan, and the new Mgla was pretty dope too. I was really impressed by a new polish band called Batushka that released a killer album last year too.
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Shit, we have similar tastes. Alcest can do no wrong for me, though Shelter took a while to grow on me. I am pumped for their new one, the sample track sounds excellent. The actual song, Ecailles de Lune part 2 is one of the best songs ever written. :D

I got into the post-black stuff very briefly before it did what every black metal genre does which is get saturated with sub-par bedroom bands. I like bits of Fen (Lashed by Storm has one of the most beautiful little clean guitar riffs @ 2.44) and really loved Drudkh's 'handful of Stars' album, but a lot of it leaves me cold. Sadly, Deafheaven do nothing for me, and I don't know why; post-rock is a genre I really dig but I can't get into these guys. I'll keep trying because mates of mine rave about these guys.

I'd like to hear more Amesouers but can't see it happening...

Fuck Mgla are awesome. I think 'With Hearts Towards None' is their best album but they do no wrong by and large. Perfectly hopeless and vicious music.

Never though I would discuss black metal in bluelight haha. I feel like that type of dense, dark metal is pretty "spiritual" music, though. Once I went to the forest at nighttime and listened to Burzum on 2C-E and had a pretty profound experience, I felt like there was a struggle between two opposed forces going on inside of me, there was this tension growing and growing, and then when the album was over I felt like none of them were victorious but both became stronger.
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Theres a few BM fans on Bluelight but not many. I too think there is a spiritual component to the music. I feel it a lot deeper than I do more typical psychedelic stuff.

vortech said:
I know that feeling of epic dualistic battle in music. These days I'm more like 'down with duality, up with trinity!'. My newest song explores that paradigm of a balance between 3 or even six points. It is called ' The Tao of Chi'. It might take a few listens to get the flow, but its one of my favorite tracks right now. Direct download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0bzngre-0bn01um1fexmtdmxgwlu/view?pref=2&pli=1 Soundcloud link:
https://soundcloud.com/vostek/vostek-the-tao-of-chi-beta
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Holy shit man. You have it, right there. That is quality music, professional sounding, deep, engaging, complex, interesting.

You've done it brilliantly. I'm going to keep listening- thanks for sharing vortech. <3
 
I've posted this elsewhere on Bluelight but need to recycle it. Wardruna create tribal, Nordic shamanic music. Not metal, but members of the group are in metal bands.

This track- listen to it entirely, it has something of a beautiful 'chorus'.

 
Guys! I study social psychology and it seems like I'm going to do my bachelor's thesis on drug addictions or something related. Maybe drug users' identities, stigmas etc. I'll focus on psychedelics and/or dissociatives if I can. Inner growth, enlightenment, spiritualism etc. Going to be a fun year! I think most people don't know anything about dissociatives, I have so much to write about lol. Near death experiences and all, it's not gonna fit in bachelor's but I'll continue on master's thesis!

Lets do a DiHKAL together !
 
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Welp, it's been quite an interesting 24 hours... Started with some 2C-B, then some moar 2C-B, then MDMA, and now I'm calling it an evening with a cuppa kratom tea. There's something inherently soothing about the process of steeping and drinking tea (even tea that tastes like coffee's unholy lovechild with a wheatgrass shot) that seems to go well with the kratom buzz.
 
Thanks for listening swilow, I have a few tweaks to make before I release the album, mastering etc, but it is almost there. I am working on another song I'm super excited about called 'a warmhole', like a play on words of wormhole. It is a 9 minute epic chill-out avante-garde sound that should be perfect for disso holes.

And about DIHKAL, a HUGE yes to that. It is time, with all the new ones going around, and the potential ones that exist on paper.
 
Img999 if you want to get in on the book project send an email to [email protected] , we already have the Google Doc and share folder set up. The original idea last week was to write a collaborative book about 3-MeO-PCP, but it is quickly evolving into something broader, like exactly a DiHaL type thing and more. While there certainly will be a large section specifically about 3meo, the big picture really is about all the arycyclohexylamine and other disso friends, because each one is unique in a special way, but they are all keys to similar states of consciousness which is another part of the book.
 
I met with the methoxetamine last night, oh god how warm she is. We had an amazing night with my friends, me and this friend who scored MXE were on mexxy and others on 3-MeO-PCP. Good times..

It would be a really tough call if I had to choose between MXE and 3-MeO-PCP. Both are amazing substances. MXE is just so magical, comfy and warm while 3-meo is mad manic genius stuff. fuck me :D
 
I think for this DIHKAL-style book, that more complete trip reports should be included. I always found that the reports in TIHKAL and PIHKAL were deficient in detail, too academic. They're useful still, but psychedelics are so about the subjective experience. Reading about dosages and a few lines of sensory and mental effects is something, but the way I've always really learned about what to expect from something is through detailed and descriptive reports. I could certainly provide some reports on the things I've tried.
 
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