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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: If 2020 Was the Dumpster, Can 2021 Be the Fire?

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was able to induce a ego death with my method at will on a small dose 25 ug of acid with ketamine. But honestly ego death aint even special now since i can do it. Its just another experince that if you hold on to will cause you sadness.
 
was able to induce a ego death with my method at will on a small dose 25 ug of acid with ketamine. But honestly ego death aint even special now since i can do it. Its just another experince that if you hold on to will cause you sadness.
I was thinking about starting a thread on acid and ketamine. They seem to go so well together and mutually potentiate each other. I didn’t know what kind of risks there are. But on acid I was getting k-holed off of a 50 mg snort of k time and time again whereas I needed 150 mg IM sober to get to the same place.
 
Hey man. How goes the institution? Making progress? Merely surviving? On the run already?
Good, I'm stable from the Serouel XR, but I also have severe ADHD (which my psychiatrist is on board with and I'll probably get tested for) so I'm running up walls and generally being very confused. I get along fairly well with some people, except my roommate who is the epitome of depression, he insists on keeping the curtains and windows closed lol. But I get along fine with a number of people, and remaining time I spend watching sports and participating in activities, like walking, cooking, relaxation exercises. I've been put in the addiction group which sucks, 5 sessions of 1 hour, I can't sit still for as long, get homework every time and is focused on things I already know. I was put in there because I used amphetamines to work and study, I am not addicted at all, I can hardly think of a more miserable way to spend my time but I just need 'em to function in environments where concentration is a must. I'm honestly pissed about it, I've missed the big walk every time now because of it, I swear that would be 10x more beneficial to me than extremely superficial addiction therapy.

But yeah, all in all good, Seroquel is good, I've lost some of my edge because of it, my brain is slower, I don't care too much anymore about little details and dynamics either, so there's less tension. I'll probably be here for another 2-3 weeks, which is fine by me, I just wanna make a festival in August at all costs.
 
Good, I'm stable from the Serouel XR, but I also have severe ADHD (which my psychiatrist is on board with and I'll probably get tested for) so I'm running up walls and generally being very confused. I get along fairly well with some people, except my roommate who is the epitome of depression, he insists on keeping the curtains and windows closed lol. But I get along fine with a number of people, and remaining time I spend watching sports and participating in activities, like walking, cooking, relaxation exercises. I've been put in the addiction group which sucks, 5 sessions of 1 hour, I can't sit still for as long, get homework every time and is focused on things I already know. I was put in there because I used amphetamines to work and study, I am not addicted at all, I can hardly think of a more miserable way to spend my time but I just need 'em to function in environments where concentration is a must. I'm honestly pissed about it, I've missed the big walk every time now because of it, I swear that would be 10x more beneficial to me than extremely superficial addiction therapy.

But yeah, all in all good, Seroquel is good, I've lost some of my edge because of it, my brain is slower, I don't care too much anymore about little details and dynamics either, so there's less tension. I'll probably be here for another 2-3 weeks, which is fine by me, I just wanna make a festival in August at all costs.
All in all sounds pretty good for recovery. It sounds like the kind of dual-diagnosis place I went to. They said they deal equally with substance use and your psychiatric condition but the majority of emphasis was on the substance use. However, if it is any encouragement a lot of stuff I ended up learning on the addiction side became valuable to me in life more generally over time. Like Mindfullness and CBT.

You are lucky to have such a range of activities. The place I went to did not allow any outside communication and only 1 hour of TV news per day. Everything else, books, papers, radio etc etc all banned. The idea was that you had to get used to being comfortable just sitting with your psychologically naked self for however long was necessary. For a ADHD/Tweaker brain like mine that was literally the worst torture imaginable. But over time I realised it was a good skill to develop.

Don’t forget to ask them about if, when, and how you can eventually come off the seroquel.
 
Yeah Seroquel... I'll have to get off it eventually but it's nice to feel in control once, and with only 100mg a day the effects on cognition and other side effects aren't too severe. I like it better than Abilify and Zyprexa too, but I haven't taken either of those for long enough.
My diagnosis is tricky, I appear to cycle very rapidly, a couple of days per episode at most and with ADHD on top I can't make heads or tails of things. I don't have many options, I'm not eligible for lithium with this sort of cycling, and my psychiatrist doesn't want to start another mood stabilizer that likely won't do all that much, according to what I've read from studies anyway. For now it's about making myself able to land a job and actually perform like is expected.

No books, papers, radio, TV... fuck, sounds maddening. I will come out of here with an even worse nicotine addiction however, too much outside....
 
Yeah Seroquel... I'll have to get off it eventually but it's nice to feel in control once, and with only 100mg a day the effects on cognition and other side effects aren't too severe. I like it better than Abilify and Zyprexa too, but I haven't taken either of those for long enough.
My diagnosis is tricky, I appear to cycle very rapidly, a couple of days per episode at most and with ADHD on top I can't make heads or tails of things. I don't have many options, I'm not eligible for lithium with this sort of cycling, and my psychiatrist doesn't want to start another mood stabilizer that likely won't do all that much, according to what I've read from studies anyway. For now it's about making myself able to land a job and actually perform like is expected.

No books, papers, radio, TV... fuck, sounds maddening. I will come out of here with an even worse nicotine addiction however, too much outside....
Sounds like you should be looking for guidance on self-monitoring. Being able to tell exactly what your mental state is doing to your external behaviour and then being able to modify that behaviour if it’s career limiting. If so, that’s very similar to where I was in rehab/recovery. I kept fucking up with work through poor relationships with people but was entirely oblivious to where I was going wrong in dealing with them because I was so totally unaware of who I was / what I was like when I was cycling. Mindfullness was like the answer I’d been waiting for my whole life. Just being able to stand a little apart from myself like a zealous security guard who could step in and guide me out of trouble before I went to far.
 
You are lucky to have such a range of activities. The place I went to did not allow any outside communication and only 1 hour of TV news per day. Everything else, books, papers, radio etc etc all banned. The idea was that you had to get used to being comfortable just sitting with your psychologically naked self for however long was necessary. For a ADHD/Tweaker brain like mine that was literally the worst torture imaginable. But over time I realised it was a good skill to develop.

I always thought that was such a shitty thing to subject people to in rehab. When you're withdrawing and trying to feel at peace, the ability to distract yourself can be so key. I don't know what I'd have done in my various states of detox without being able to read or watch movies/TV. I get it when you're clean and sober and trying to learn how to be at peace with yourself without external stimuli, but it seems like needless amounts of torture to deprive people trying to get through acute withdrawal of the ability to do activities that help bring you comfort.
 
I always thought that was such a shitty thing to subject people to in rehab. When you're withdrawing and trying to feel at peace, the ability to distract yourself can be so key. I don't know what I'd have done in my various states of detox without being able to read or watch movies/TV. I get it when you're clean and sober and trying to learn how to be at peace with yourself without external stimuli, but it seems like needless amounts of torture to deprive people trying to get through acute withdrawal of the ability to do activities that help bring you comfort.
It did feel a lot like they were deliberately trying to crack or fracture our emotional defences by forcing us to confront ourselves without distraction.It worked long term but I was so full of anguish the first week I could barely function ad a result.
 
Sounds like you should be looking for guidance on self-monitoring. Being able to tell exactly what your mental state is doing to your external behaviour and then being able to modify that behaviour if it’s career limiting. If so, that’s very similar to where I was in rehab/recovery. I kept fucking up with work through poor relationships with people but was entirely oblivious to where I was going wrong in dealing with them because I was so totally unaware of who I was / what I was like when I was cycling. Mindfullness was like the answer I’d been waiting for my whole life. Just being able to stand a little apart from myself like a zealous security guard who could step in and guide me out of trouble before I went to far.
Noted, thanks.
Also Seroquel can indeed not be the answer, it's no way to live. I changed my mind, disgusting stuff.
 
Noted, thanks.
Also Seroquel can indeed not be the answer, it's no way to live. I changed my mind, disgusting stuff.
Think of it like crutches for your mind. You only need it until your walking again on your own. The sooner the better. I think the first time I was on it I took it for about 4 months. And that was off of a rock bottom psychotic break.
 
This thread has got me questioning my own mental health since I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t deal well without daily distractions like reading and listening to music
 
Distractions are an important part of life, or rather, hobbies are. Some people focus their energy all on productive hobbies but they're still focusing on something external a lot of the time. I think it's just natural, and these days it's hard to feel good about the world a lot of the time. I don't think there are very many people who could sustain just being with their own thoughts all the time for a long period of time without experiencing mental health issues. And there probably never have been. We are animals built for survival. Whenever I am out in nature backpacking or camping, all it takes to feel fulfilled is daily survival; a fire, food, shelter. These days we take that stuff for granted and we need other things to focus our energy on, or we go nuts.
 
This thread has got me questioning my own mental health since I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t deal well without daily distractions like reading and listening to music
I think the ability to just sit quietly with yourself for an hour or more with no distractions but with no negative thoughts, feelings, or emotions is extraordinarily hard but a source of considerable mental resiliance. I only learned to do it over many years of therapy and practice (and a bit of ECT) . Before that the absence of distraction just immediately uncorked anxiety. I could not even spend 5 minutes in bed after i woke up without becoming anxious for want of something to stop me thinking.
 
Ah yeah, an hour is something I could probably do, though I don't often. Well actually I spend at least an hour every morning waking up and trying to fall back asleep and sometimes failing, sometimes succeeding. Not sure if that counts though.
 
Playing a show at an adventure center at the deepest gorge east of the Mississippi today. Tonight, rather. Another hour and a half of work and I'm off to meet up, pack our gear, and drive out there. Hopefully have time to do some zip lining before we have to set up. :)
In my younger days, I would have found you and pushed you in the river. "Go with the flow man" Instead, I'll mumble to myself about the NSA and praise allah
 
This reminds me of the stalls in Singapore that do egg prata:
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Oh god I'm so hungry thinking about that. They are basically roti with a cracked egg tucked into them, and served with this delicious curry sauce to dip into. So good, hot and fresh off the skillet, great any time of day. The street food in Singapore is amazing, there is an intersection of so many cultures there - tamil, malay, chinese, indonesian, british..
OMG, roti canai! I miss this so much! It's like cheap street food in parts of NZ, and it's so good. You can't even find it in the city I live in, or in any neighboring cities. I finally resorted to making it myself
 
Playing a show at an adventure center at the deepest gorge east of the Mississippi today. Tonight, rather. Another hour and a half of work and I'm off to meet up, pack our gear, and drive out there. Hopefully have time to do some zip lining before we have to set up. :)
Oh man! I really wanted to go to that festival (I think Moon Hooch is playing?) but I thought I was going to still be working night shift in Texas. I just remembered it today 😔
 
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