☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: Firly Swolks Discussing Mitillating Tatters Fithout Wilters

[Xorkoth]

I have never used 2c-e before and don't intend to anytime soon dude. I was kinda joking at the progression... 2c-c... 2c-d... 2c-e... 2c-f... 2c-g... 2c-t-2.... 2c-t-7... haha. Kinda like tylenol... codeine... morphine... hydrocodone... oxycodone... hydromorphone... perhaps oxymorphone but we d'own have nonothat here... heroin.... fentanyl... carfentayl laced fentanyl laced heroin.... down the rabbit hole she goes.

Haha yeah... except that 2C-E is easily the most powerful 2C-X. It's not even in the same class as the others, it's one of the deepest psychedelics, more intense than LSD for me any day. Also WAY more potent than 2C-C/D/B. Like, 18mg is the most I like to take, orally. And 20mg is much more intense than 18mg. 2C-E has given me my most intense and terrifying (but amazing) trip of my life (at 18mg). I like to be alone when I do it because it's kind of too intense for other people. It's really not much like the other 2C-Xs. I don't even consider it recreational, it's not euphoric, but it is very deep and beautiful and thought-provoking. Not the easiest of trips though.

Should I expect some brain fryage for a bit? Well, I think it is best not to think about that and just move on and live in the present moment. I will, in fact, likely be brain sizzled for a week or so. Not too worried about that, considering the amount of organic chron I have at my disposal.

You'll be fine when you stop... you'll probably be extremely tired for a little while though since you have been staying up a lot. Good work on staying off opiates.

One word of advice about your date... don't build your hopes up too much. You mention you view it as a potential serious relationship and in my experience that's not a good way to go into a first date. Because if she doesn't feel the same way, you'll get knocked down hard. It's just looking out for yourself, really. I hope you have a good time and that things turn out well with her, you should go all into it. I only mention it because when I was younger I used to always build up girls in my head and whenever it didn't turn out how I was imagining it I'd get super down on myself and sad, and it was a pretty destructive pattern for me.

 

[ShroomySatori]

Yeah man that's a good point, I have garnered no attachment towards this foxy chick. I just see the potential is there; that is it. I am not expecting it to turn out into anything, really. I'm too busy having fun right now haha. The potential is there, with plenty of others.

Anyways, things got even better. She wants to reschedule tomorrow, but for something more fun. She wants to check out essential oils, offered to go with me to get my industrial ear piercing I told her I was getting with my pay, and then dine for lunch somewhere nice. Sounds like she just wants to chill. Seems that she would like to get to know some of my hobbies she is interested in too, and wants to see me get my piercing that is a bar that goes twice through my upper ear. Super nice of her really. So yeah man, I can't hold any attachment to any one girl when we are going on a first date but she came up with some rad ideas and I think we will have a lot of fun. I can't see us not having a lot of fun haha, although either way man way she goes...

I've been sleeping great by the way these past few days... withdrawal insomnia will be on and off for a while I presume, as my smack fried brain levels itself out. But yeah dude, excited for tomorrow! And for all the sticky icky I have to smoke (for the first time in my life I can say with confidence that I may in fact have too much weed to smoke), and I work afternoons this weekend so I don't have to stay up all night and can continue to be well rested : ) ... it is almost like she wants to go on an adventure and have me engage her in things about me she likes too, and like the nice dinner can come later. So I came up with a plan with 3 places we are hitting up that are all chill and around the same area and what she suggested (I adored her suggestions... especially going with me to get the piercing as that means my lazy ass will actually do so, and it's really nice of her to offer that, I mentioned it to her like a week ago in passing... she has a lot of piercings for a girl). I could use an organized lady lol... again I'm not putting much pressure on this, I can't deny that I like her a lot but I have liked a lot of chicks a lot. Plus I am driving her for most of the time... I knew she wanted something beyond work matters lol!

 

[ToriTransmundane]

I was pissed off/sad today, and in the mood to do drugs, so I made poppy seed tea!

I emptied two of the containers in a plastic OJ bottle and filled it with enough water, shook it up for 5 minutes, slightly unscrewed the cap, and drained the liquid into a cup which I then slammed and chased with the juice. I could feel a little warmth creeping up in me after about 20 minutes so I repeated the process with the remaining two containers. I ended up feeling pretty toasty, and it totally killed my bad mood and made me not want to cry anymore. Most of the time the seeds are garbage but I think if you get good ones this is actually a pretty viable way to get high. Of course it's not going to compare to slamming heroin, but that isn't good for you anyways and it's less addictive this way.

The high can be comparable to about 30-40 mg of oxycodone. It often can be long-lasting, sometimes multiple days! Would always recommend, as long as you do it responsibly!

 

[Xorkoth]

Heh I wouldn't say it's less addictive. I was addicted to opiates for 10 years and poppy seed tea was my favorite opiate high out of everything including heroin (though I never injected). Careful, that shit almost ruined me.

 

[ToriTransmundane]

I hate to hear the meth psychosis stories, it breaks my heart. But you did the right thing Xork. These are personal battles, and intervention can only do so much. Only himself can fight the demon.

I second this!

Have you ever considered finding this man support groups?

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah, his parents have been working on that for like a year, I guess his town is so full of meth heads that the system is completely overwhelmed and in his state they're not allowed to forcibly take someone who is a danger to themselves, it has to be voluntary or they have to get arrested. His parents have been trying to set up treatment, he just won't do it because he thinks everyone else has a problem, not him.

My AMT trip at the show last night got interrupted by his mom texting me that he was walking the streets with a gun threatening to kill himself. I tried calling him but it went straight to voicemail, I called the police also as she suggested (I guess she has called them so much about this that they don't really take her seriously anymore? It sounds like it's about the worst possible place for something like this to happen, we called them to check on him when he threatened suicide last week and they knocked on his door and it turns out he was sleeping, but they just knocked and then left and told us they don't know ). I still haven't heard anything...

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

I wanna accidentally take too much LSD when attempting to microdose. Sounds wonky. That is my contribution tonight. Hope all is well and all the best.

It's too much fun :D

I spent the last day moving my stuff with a lot of help from my local community. Finally in my new place overlooking the main street with my best friend as my room mate. Lovin' it. To celebrate getting arcade machines and metal desks among other things up 25 stairs I bought everyone pizza and beer. When the help left I set-up my PC, fired up my favorite play list and broke into the last of my MDMA to split with my room mate. We chilled out while one of the younger guys from the neighbrohood hung out with us. They played some Street Fighter til I decided to hop on and ran them both off the console. After that the young buck played online since we just got cable put in and he's not ever played much. We just sat up all night laughing about how great we got it right now. Plan on working really hard to bring mainstreet back, going to have an arcade/pool room/bar under my feet in a few months. :D

Hope everyone is well, still on the tail end of my roll so I' yammering. Took six of us to lug my huge bed up those stairs and I plan on sleeping in it for the first time in three nights here soon. Might hit some DMT before I call it a night/morning. I only have enough for one blast off left....now that I've moved I need to work on getting my bag of goodies back up to par. I plan on having company over the holidays and I like to share.

I'm hosting a tournament middle of this month to celebrate our new location. Landlord thought we were bullshitting until he saw a 4-Slot Neo-Geo and all that hardware go up all them damn stairs. All the guys carrying around arcade sticks to play on while we moved caught his attention too. He looked like a kid in a candy store and I can tell he's dying for the invite up. He's had plans to open an arcade for years and now he's got two people living above him that work on cabinets and already draw 10-15 people every two weeks to play. So I reckon he's pretty happy about that and the fact that we paid rent so far in advance.

Speaking of rent, I've already managed to cut the rent by 1/4th just for letting him leech off my WiFi. lol

 

[Morninggloryseed]

Awe...good story to wake up to (from headphonesandsd) ^^^^^

My AMT trip at the show last night got interrupted by his mom texting me that he was walking the streets with a gun threatening to kill himself.

Oh dear.

Haha yeah... except that 2C-E is easily the most powerful 2C-X. It's not even in the same class as the others, it's one of the deepest psychedelics, more intense than LSD for me any day.

This, 2nd....although for me 2ce is far more "clear headed" than LSD.

I was pissed off/sad today, and in the mood to do drugs, so I made poppy seed tea!

I emptied two of the containers in a plastic OJ bottle and filled it with enough water, shook it up for 5 minutes, slightly unscrewed the cap, and drained the liquid into a cup which I then slammed and chased with the juice. I could feel a little warmth creeping up in me after about 20 minutes so I repeated the process with the remaining two containers. I ended up feeling pretty toasty, and it totally killed my bad mood and made me not want to cry anymore. Most of the time the seeds are garbage but I think if you get good ones this is actually a pretty viable way to get high. Of course it's not going to compare to slamming heroin, but that isn't good for you anyways and it's less addictive this way.

The high can be comparable to about 30-40 mg of oxycodone. It often can be long-lasting, sometimes multiple days! Would always recommend, as long as you do it responsibly!

yeah....I never did the seeds so much...but poppy pods is what made me start describing myself as "proud addict", took years of suboxone and finally iboga before I closed(ish) that door. I enjoyed good pod tea more than any other opiate. With no tolerance, it does last 24hr but it only took a month of steady use to experience WD first hand. Tread lightly.

I've never been hooked on heroin (well, I used it for a couple weeks to bridge the gap between subs and kratom (pre iboga) ) but I would be careful with any notions opium orally is less addictive. You have multiple alkaloids and a long half life....wd for me after thrice daily pod tea lasted weeks...they actually never ended and I got on subs.

 

[Xorkoth]

Whoa you did pod tea 3 times a day? DAMN! Seed tea and pod tea are more or less the same but it requires much higher weight of the seeds because there is less opium stuck to them by weight. I did it once a day at most, but even when I did it every other day I still had terrible withdrawals when I quit (although I was doing enough to nod every time, at the end about 5 pounds of strong seeds at once - for comparison my friends who tried it once did a half pound and got sick). I could actually maintain on every other day but I'd start to get a little runny and restless at night on the off day. It's amazing how long it lasts. I also think it's the most desirable high and therefore the most addictive of any opiate I've tried, including heroin (I never IVed though, I'm sure that makes it worse and you can't IV seed or pod tea).

But yeah Tori, SO MANY psychonauts get addicted to opiates. My life was almost entirely ruined from opiates, I ended up $40k in debt and was fantasizing about suicide daily. I hatred myself so much. Check out this thing I wrote recently about opiates: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/835049-Opiates-Retrospective-Description-of-the-Opiate-High

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I saw Dead and Co. last night. Holy shit man... It was unreal. I was passing weed back and forth with deadheads twice my age. There were people with tanks of nitrous selling balloons in the lot outside heheh. They even played Darkstar>The Other One, and many other 60s/70s classic dead songs... Jesus Christ, it was fantastic. Dead don't die y'all!

I'm finally starting to check off a number of my bucket list activities/goals this past year, and it feels great knowing now that if I were to die, I'll have known such beauty. It helps me remind myself that life isn't all misery and sorrow... Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah man I saw them in Atlanta over the summer, it was awesome. I love the crowd at shows like that, everyone is great, there's such a good feeling of community. And everyone is on/doing drugs pretty much.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

It just blew my mind because the lot was just on a street corner, and here were a bunch of hippies openly selling drugs and openly consuming them, and the law didn't give two fucks. Like a music festival, but in a crowded urban center. I hope they keep touring and come back through again soon :D

 

[psy997]

I'm so bummed I moved from Austin right before they decided to come to Austin for the first time, ever. And before that, I don't think the Dead had been through since like 85-87?

 

[ShroomySatori]

This was very nice to read, and I can relate. (the last part of your post on the last page CG... I had to read through music I don't really know to find your gem at the end of your writing. About finding the beauty in life or whatev it's not letting me quote it, but I found it refreshing to read and almost sacred in a way.

I am presently losing my mind over a girl. I like her way too much. 2 hour date turned into 15 hours together and we have a really special connection. Not much wrong happened yesterday, but I got way too drunk (and I hardly ever drink, just got caught up in her chaos haha). She tripped out with me too on acid and a rail of 2c-c (she has never done psychs before haha but we really trust each other like that. She is just like yeah! I trust you! I knew from her energy that she'd be totally fine with acid... she would hate mushroom lol, classic bad trip I bet, and she would smoke DMT and 15 minutes later spend 15 hours talking to me about her experience non stop while I giggle and laugh my ass off... I really do find her that silly). Since, I snuck a rail in and had to tell her I was tripping so I couldn't drive her home.

Nothing much went wrong, but I haven't heard from her today. She doesn't want to talk. I don't really give a fuck why but I do. She's driving me crazy. I'm driving myself crazy. I think about her in the shower, while doing laundry, while cooking food, while typing on the computer, while smoking pot and listening to tunes. It's not good, but she really is that special. The connection is so meaningful and it is very deep... we are very different people but seem to balance each other just right. Only thing I told her today was that what I like about her most is her subtle sense of humour, that has me in hysterics but most guys don't even appreciate. She makes me giggle internally whenever I around her, it's so uplifting... I like her so much... way way way way way too much it's bad.

I don't give a fuck. I will be alone forever... whatever. 15 years of loneliness and heartbreak has really caught up to me. Can't take the shit anymore it's making me cry. I'll just wait to hear from her if she wants to hang out again. She asked me out for the first date, so whatev. I don't give a fuck. There are more women than her but fuck fuck fucking fuck am I ever into her! I an't take it I wish I didn't have a heart to like her this much. Wish I never went on that date, it's just making me depressed. Ongoing girl probs is only thing that has fucked me up in life worse than heroin use.

Normally this would be chill like I have plenty of chicks to talk to (well... not really but I can just go to the mall or something)... but I really like her a lot. Fucking my head up, mayne. Can't take it anymore I wish I never met someone I like this much.

 

[Xorkoth]

Oh man Shroomy, this is exactly what I meant when I said try not to build it up too much. I mean of course that's way easier said than done. It's also the reason I said some number of weeks ago that pursuing women might be better for you after you're a little farther past opiates, because you're pretty fragile right now and it seems like women mess you up. I mean the vast majority of potential matches won't work out, especially when you barely know each other yet. Of course that's also easier said than done.

Honestly maybe she was just busy today, it might mean nothing. When I first started seeing my girl we wouldn't communicate for days in between seeing each other. Now I can't imagine loving someone more. We started out real casual though, as it should be, IMO.

Try not to get so in your head about it. Gotta let things happen as they will. That also helps a stable relationship to form. A deep, beautiful relationship only forms when you let it happen... people don't meet and instantly have something deep, that has to develop over time. That only happens in movies.

Sorry you're feeling this way though. Just try to think about the good things in your life. Think about your music, for example. Maybe this girl will become something, and maybe not. In the meantime, you gotta focus on you, and the things you love. And if she's not the one for you, there are women out there for you. You attract romance the best when you're happy with yourself, doing your own thing, and not really trying to look for it. At least in my experience. In other words, you find the real thing when you least expect it.

Speaking of women, my girl and I went to her dad's house for dinner and to pick up her car. It's an hour and 10 minutes away but an hour and 30 minutes in her car, which is an old 1981 Mercedes diesel with a top speed of 60mph. So we had to drive back to my house separately, since we needed to take both cars. Well, when I was already 35 minutes into the drive she texted me. I glanced at it and just saw "hit a deer", and my heart just about jumped out of my chest. I pulled over on the side of the interstate and read it. Turns out she just hit a deer hard enough to smash a headlight but she's totally fine, it wasn't serious. She drove the car back to her dad's to switch with another of his cars. So I got home before she even left her dad's, which sucks... but I'm really glad she's okay. Scared the shit out of me for a second.

 

[ShroomySatori]

lol, I was just replying to you in the other thread and I was like... easier said than done when I like a girl this much. Man I am ready for a chick 100%. I recovered fast as hell, opiates are hardly / barely ever on my mind. It's not going to get better man I'm just me again. Chaotic and crazy, I can't help it. If I wasn't ready, I wouldn't have been able to set up that date let alone make it there and end up spending 15 hours with her. We know each other pretty well man, it has been a few weeks of lots of chatting and it's just like I see the potential you know? Even if it isn't the perfect time, I can't help but notice the potential. That's it. I'll leave the potential alone and if she hits me up again then it was meant to be, if not same thing.

She wasn't busy today but she was upset about something. Not sure what, it means nothing man. Yeah dude, we are keeping it sooo casual she was being cute and making it seem like it was more about our work than a date (it totally was a date haha). But yeah, just really casual and fun! We didn't hook up or anything, just got to know each other and had a really fun time, came up with lots of plans for the future (like making scented soaps and candles with my essential oils, she wants to teach me about all the diff coconut products at the health food store, going to get acupuncture / chinese cupping together, heading to the states to get our health supplements cheaper than we can get them here)... she came up with all those ideas and brought them up; it's like we are doing stuff that couples would do, but we are not a couple yet, may never be, but people totally see us as one wherever we go. I guess they can sense it or something... it's crazy man.

I already though of writing a song about how I feel! Man... this is what has been happening to me. I have been so caught up loving and enjoying life that I attracted her into my life somehow. I was not looking at all, she just works with me. I'm still not even looking at her that way man (I mean, really trying not to lol). Dude I was just hungover as fuck today and I never drink alcohol like I have only one other time this year. Hangovers hit me as hard as coke crashes dude or even worse really. I'm starting to feel like myself again : )

I agree with everything you are saying... always when you least expect it. Every time it is like that for me. So, I wasn't expecting anything yesterday. I'm not expecting shit today, or tomorrow either. Make sense? I think I have a good attitude about this and I totally know I'm ready for a chick I mean I got the car, a new job, I'm always gonna be crazy but I'm super happy being myself, and so is she. We both don't need each other but I feel like we want each other.

Man that is very scary when you love someone like that. I am glad she is okay! Holy fuck I would have freaked out and even had a panic attack man. Probs would have taken me a while to calm down too like I wouldn't be able to drive right after experiencing that. It's good everything worked out man... cars, I think we both know, can really hurt people.

But yeah man I think I have a positive attitude about this. Was really just hung over today and that is something I definitely should not be doing with this little clean time. Same with cocaine... it would lead to a relapse. I see the potential with her, though. I see the potential for something beautiful beyond words and that is what is tripping me out man. It's easier said than done not to build it up, because I am always thinking about big ideas these days (I have like 6 business plans for my future I came up with recently). With chicks like her man I gotta focus on the present moment and only really pay any attention to her when we are out on a date or making plans. I'll probs hear from her in a couple days apologizing for not getting back to me or some shit. I honestly don't care. There are so many women who would want to be with me (not everyone, obviously, but enough that I have lots of choice in this predicament).

It still sucks to feel lonely sometimes but I talked to my buddy tonight about some cool stuff, helped my friend with her sketches (just by encouraging her, she might be doing sleeves for my buddy who is covered in track marks). I'm really trying hard to encourage her art, it is unbelievable. She is a chill pothead and a really great friend of mine, and she is a good listener for my problems and is always assuring me it's chill I don't need to be self conscious. She is the one person who has ever agreed with me that I don't need therapy or stuff like that, just a friend who is chill with listening to me vent. In return, she gets hooked up with free chron (I have more weed than I know what to do with lol, and we are both major potheads, I hate to see her paying dispensary prices and would just give her free pot anyway)... and also, I am really encouraging her to set up instagram with her artwork and the associated tattoos once she gets my thorny black rose from my wrist on the palm side up my forearm underside to my skull, and the other idea which is too crazy and complex to mention. I just told her I'd get tattooed whatever she came up with... she is that talented and just our friendship like I've never had a friend like her in my life ever... she is totally non judgement and selfless. The chick I dig is like the perfect critic of everything haha it's too funny. She doesn't even see how funny and cute she is.

Anyways, I am feeling a lot better man. Nasty fuckin alcohol hangover I'd totally take a 3 day coke crash over that shit. But yeah man the booze really fucks my head up. Girls I like always fuck my head up sober, getting clean, whatever lol. I don't care! What is the point right? I'm just interfering with the natural course of things, and this usually is not a problem but I fucking like her so damn much man it's crazy...

 

[vortech]

Shroomy, I mean this in the most loving of ways, but slow your roll, bud! You are in the pink cloud phase of opiate recovery, and the regular psy supplementation amplifies that...I know because I've been there. Others gave me the same advice. Trust in the Universe, allow it all to unfold as a flower. Stand your ground and allow her the same. You will growing towards each other if that is where the Sun is shining.

 

[ShroomySatori]

Thank man... yeah dude. I'm talking to my other chick friend who is cool with me venting to her, and yeah like totally a just friends thing but wtf knows maybe I would end up with her. She is sketching my tattoos and we have silly conversations... I was just talking to her about my fantasy of going to prison. At least there would be no ladies to break my heart in there, I dunno was just making her giggle with my prison fantasy (no gay sex haha... I'd probs get respect in prison just keep to myself or whatev, do yoga). She is getting a bouquet of weed haha the prices here for pot are just insanity, since she is such a chill friend to me and like always there and super nice she gets to smoke chron for free while she sketches my tattoos and my friends sleeves too (I'm really trying to encourage her to be a tattoo artist cause her art is that good and she has thought of it before. I really like her too but I'm not thinking about it like that. She is like a stoner friend who I can say anything to and she won't judge me, I can vent to her for hours about drugs and women and yeah like I feel bad cause I'm talking shit but she is always like No it's cool! You need a friend : ) and she is nothing but friendly and kind to me.

If I end up with the other chick it will be like a month from now anyway. I really don't care... I was hungover as fuck today and my emotions were fucked. Doing great in fact I just can't think about the fox. She will break my heart lol. So, I like talking to the stoner chick because she is too chill and also quite cute so she keeps my mind off the other girl in fact I vent to her about chicks a lot haha. She is a really good friend... really, my only friend I feel like I can say whatever the hell I want to and she will just giggle, or be supportive.

This is not opiate withdrawal though dude. I am doing great I feel like my old self completely. Today was a fucking booze hangover, but yeah, I'm mentally unstable as fuck anyway even before the opiates... now I'm just crazy and fuck like that fox is really really cute I like her way too much. So... it is time to forget about her. Maybe I'll see her in a week. I don't really give a fuck, but yeah... I am crazy like this sober so I guess it is in fact a good sign. I didn't have a sex drive on smack, and was way more chill and mellowed out than I was now (so long as I had it, ha).

Loved the last three sentences, beautiful writing. The universe tends to unfold as it should. We have been growing towards each other for a while now but I don't even care, maybe I'll never hear from her again. I don't care... I care about my own life, I have a lot of big plans for the near and long term future and a lot of creative outlets to express. I could end up with the chick who is 'just friends' but who I have the chillest conversations with and is super intelligent and artistic. I'm not even thinking about that with her though, which is really the best I guess. I seriously don't give a fuck it has been so long I forget what making out even feels like LOL. One of the asians the other day I work with asked me what the difference between kissing and making out was... ummm... ummm.... I forget man sorry, I am just a lonely hippie fuck. I probably already ruined it with the chick I had a 15 hour incredible first date with.

Donnnn giva fuuuuuuuuuuuuck but yeah, I have panic attacks sober and other shit going on in my brain, chronic pain in my spine... I'm not getting any better than I'm feeling now after being clean this long. I recovered super fast, and feel the same as I did a few weeks ago. Sober or clean doesn't really exist for me anymore.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

anyone here ever play shenmue? I just started it.
Im waiting, i'm going away again for a day at the end of this week.
I was planning on trying to hit pittsburgh this month but I dont know if i will be able to although I havent figured out what I am doing for new years yet and if I cant find anything to do I may just go to pittsburgh
anyone here ever been to richmond? I was thinking about richmond, i dont think i wanna do baltimore but i dont want to do philly either. I cant go west of pittsburgh, south of richmond, or north of new york although I dont have money for new york.

 

[vortech]

Shrooms I didn't mean pink cloud as withdrawal, rather it is the phase after it finishes, when the body returns to homeostasis and things appear brighter, vital and crisp compared to before. Psychedelics are especially powerful tools in that period. It sounds like you have a good perspective, in which case bro, smell the flowers on this breezy current and follow your nose to the future.