☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: Firly Swolks Discussing Mitillating Tatters Fithout Wilters
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Bella Figura
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No worries man I was just gonna show you a link for that book, but if you're tripping hard right now, it's alright :D
Bella Figura
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don't think so as it's considered piracy :/
but a google search should help you out.
but a google search should help you out.
Xorkoth
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After my ex and I broke up, and I started trying to date again, I was really curious about a polyamory sort of situation. I have some friends and acquaintances who do that, and it seems to work for some of them. When I started dating my girlfriend, we took a good while to actually define what it was, and I really thought I wanted that with her. But then after a little while I realized that I really didn't like the thought of her with someone else. It was actually only like 3 weeks into it, when she was in California for a long time and I knew she was at her ex-boyfriend's place trimming buds, she didn't have phone service usually or Internet and when she didn't reply to me for days I kept envisioning her still being casually romantic with her ex, and it really bothered me. I struggled against accepting that that was how I felt because I really wanted to try to experience polyamory, but ultimately I realized it's not for me. I just like monogamy, even though there is a part of me that would like to be able to experience other people. But I'd be a massive hypocrite if I did because I wouldn't want her to.
I wish I didn't feel those feelings of jealousy, but I do. I don't think, intellectually, that I should have those feelings, but I can't help it. Fortunately I do not have an issue with jealousy at all, like I'm not inventing the feelings in my head and unfairly putting them on people, I have no concern about it at all in my relationship and I didn't in any of my other relationships either. But if romance outside the relationship was in fact happening, it would be really hard for me to deal with.
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I wish I didn't feel those feelings of jealousy, but I do. I don't think, intellectually, that I should have those feelings, but I can't help it. Fortunately I do not have an issue with jealousy at all, like I'm not inventing the feelings in my head and unfairly putting them on people, I have no concern about it at all in my relationship and I didn't in any of my other relationships either. But if romance outside the relationship was in fact happening, it would be really hard for me to deal with.
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Guys, until I had to be in a situation where someone I love was close to dying because of alcohol / drugs and I needed to be scared because of police interfering, I couldn't give a fuck about laws etc. But after what I've been through, I will never accept the drug policy in this world.
So lets all continue the harm reduction the best we can, to never lose another soul because of something like this.
So lets all continue the harm reduction the best we can, to never lose another soul because of something like this.
Xorkoth
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I agree.
In my state (which is pretty conservative) they recently passed a law that when calling for medical attention because of drug overdoses, they are not allowed to get you in legal trouble or violate your probation. A really good step IMO.
In my state (which is pretty conservative) they recently passed a law that when calling for medical attention because of drug overdoses, they are not allowed to get you in legal trouble or violate your probation. A really good step IMO.
vortech
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SONN I have been in those spaces, its really magical to be attuned with a space filled with other souls, synchronicity bubbling, impossible geometry manifestations, as if there is some other dimension of energy being activated and all the people in the space hold their point, circulating psychedelic patterns telepathically and then manifests physically, that kind of stuff happens at gem n jam, and elsewhere, on word
vortech
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Facebook just yesterday reminded me of gem n jam 2013, in a picture, with friends, I was tuned on MXE, watching the visuals, the music, soaking in the rare essences in abundance. Straight up mind blown magic.
The Hypnotist
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I normally don't write in the social thread as I am kind of timid and why not to mention it...quite antisocial. But I feel like I have something to say about the polyamory thing.
I come from a political activist background even if there is not much of an activist left in me. But I was in anarchist environments for a long time and saw and lived lots of free love and what could be defined as polyamory, even if I just heard the word not so long ago.
For a long time I believed completely in a total freedom without boundaries, but as in any extremist group dogmatism was a big part of it, and meanwhile we were criticizing everyone who was not us, we did very little self-criticism. Of course we didn't realize of that or that be lived into a very rigid moral system.
I saw how sentimental experiments lots of times lead to suffering. And how this suffering was neglected from the group and the suffering individuals. Everything seemed to go alright until somebody got too much into somebody and the represion of those feelings just keep building negativity in the atmosphere. I am not saying I've never seen things working just alright, there were some individuals that were genuinely made for this kind of relationships, and that valued much more their own sexual freedom over any kind of commitment. But most people were not doing so well, sooner or later.
As well it seemed to work better when females shared a man than the other way around. I know it sounds almost forbidden to say things like that nowadays, but men got more jelous in general; maybe evolutionary psychology has a point in there. In our moral system any gender differences where neglected and manliness especially frown upon. (though it was actually succesfully attractive in some twisted kind of way).
In my personal relationships I always tried to be open minded and ''do the right thing'' but in the moment I really liked somebody I had big intelectual-emotional contradictions that I couldn't verbalise. To be honest I was feeling guilty for feeling as I did, like not libertarian enough. Right now it sounds ridiculous to me but at the moment was the difference between thinking I was good or bad.
No need to say my experiences had affected my believe system, like to everybody else. So I don't want to sound like I know the right way (or should I say the left way?), I just know what I have seen and what worked or not for me. But we have to try to get to the root of things even if probably all opinions are kind of biased. So IMO the irresponsability and compulsitivity of our modern days lead many people to things like polyamory against their own nature.
The problem I see is the conflict between imagination and reality. Imagination is simplicity and reality is complexity. We make in our heads all kinds of ideas about how things should be, how we should behave, etc. but in reality things are of such complexity that those magic and simple imagination recipes are a recipe for disaster.
As a last point I would like to notice how superior our present ideas about the world and how it works seem to us compared to how things used to be. I am starting to think that if anything has been some way for a long time there should be strong reasons for it, that in its complexity we might not really be able to understand. Not saying things can not or should not be changed, just saying we should be really weary of simplistic and obvious theories especially in social and psychological issues.
My recommendation to everybody is to follow your feelings however wrong they might seem in your culture. And to realize that you cannot have everything so any gain might mean a lose. Sometimes you have to stop being cool or begin to be unpopular to really be yourself.
I come from a political activist background even if there is not much of an activist left in me. But I was in anarchist environments for a long time and saw and lived lots of free love and what could be defined as polyamory, even if I just heard the word not so long ago.
For a long time I believed completely in a total freedom without boundaries, but as in any extremist group dogmatism was a big part of it, and meanwhile we were criticizing everyone who was not us, we did very little self-criticism. Of course we didn't realize of that or that be lived into a very rigid moral system.
I saw how sentimental experiments lots of times lead to suffering. And how this suffering was neglected from the group and the suffering individuals. Everything seemed to go alright until somebody got too much into somebody and the represion of those feelings just keep building negativity in the atmosphere. I am not saying I've never seen things working just alright, there were some individuals that were genuinely made for this kind of relationships, and that valued much more their own sexual freedom over any kind of commitment. But most people were not doing so well, sooner or later.
As well it seemed to work better when females shared a man than the other way around. I know it sounds almost forbidden to say things like that nowadays, but men got more jelous in general; maybe evolutionary psychology has a point in there. In our moral system any gender differences where neglected and manliness especially frown upon. (though it was actually succesfully attractive in some twisted kind of way).
In my personal relationships I always tried to be open minded and ''do the right thing'' but in the moment I really liked somebody I had big intelectual-emotional contradictions that I couldn't verbalise. To be honest I was feeling guilty for feeling as I did, like not libertarian enough. Right now it sounds ridiculous to me but at the moment was the difference between thinking I was good or bad.
No need to say my experiences had affected my believe system, like to everybody else. So I don't want to sound like I know the right way (or should I say the left way?), I just know what I have seen and what worked or not for me. But we have to try to get to the root of things even if probably all opinions are kind of biased. So IMO the irresponsability and compulsitivity of our modern days lead many people to things like polyamory against their own nature.
The problem I see is the conflict between imagination and reality. Imagination is simplicity and reality is complexity. We make in our heads all kinds of ideas about how things should be, how we should behave, etc. but in reality things are of such complexity that those magic and simple imagination recipes are a recipe for disaster.
As a last point I would like to notice how superior our present ideas about the world and how it works seem to us compared to how things used to be. I am starting to think that if anything has been some way for a long time there should be strong reasons for it, that in its complexity we might not really be able to understand. Not saying things can not or should not be changed, just saying we should be really weary of simplistic and obvious theories especially in social and psychological issues.
My recommendation to everybody is to follow your feelings however wrong they might seem in your culture. And to realize that you cannot have everything so any gain might mean a lose. Sometimes you have to stop being cool or begin to be unpopular to really be yourself.
swilow
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Vortech, I read you were taking pregabalin and switched to gabapentin. Can I ask what doses of pregabalin and what u were using it for? I've recently been prescribed it for sciatica but have some misgivings. I'm on 225mg a day, gonna go up to 300mg. Its helping my pain so much but I'm trying to get more info. Its worrying me as I dont wantvanother addiction.
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pharmakos
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the only thing i ever learned from shimazu.
xammy
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Indeed, beautifully written. Thanks, Hypnotist. I haven't seen you before in bluelight, because I often read and post in PD.
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