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psy997 said:
Damn nice post, Hypnotist. Thanks so much for sharing that. I'd love to hear more of your experiences in and around anarchistic environments some time if you'd be willing to share. What a contribution.
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Thanks for being so nice :) I am actually very critic about my old ideas and libertarian communities, so critic probably as I was before with mainstream politics and society. Sometimes I think I just like confrontation and provocation, but I prefer to think that all convictions have some dose of hypocrisy. I am a very straight forward person and my filter between thought and talk doesn't work properly, so you can imagine lots of people didn't like my shift. For them I might be some kind of traitor; the funny thing is I would have reacted the same way during my anarchist epoque. It is really difficult to change one's believes when you have invested so much emotionaly on them. But I don't think life give you any choice about it. It goes as it goes.

That doesn't mean that I regret anything, it was a great experience to live in such a way and I managed to take lots of things that have been and will be useful in the future. I still live and travel with very little, though sometimes I think about having more money, now that I wouldn't hate myself for it ;). Naivety can be a form of blessing sometimes, and anyway I feel knowledge is like layers of information, so in the next layer I might get some piece of information that shifts everything again.

xammy said:
Indeed, beautifully written. Thanks, Hypnotist. I haven't seen you before in bluelight, because I often read and post in PD.
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Thanks to you too. I am much more of a reader, most of the time I don't have anything interesting to add. I am normaly in PD too, though sometimes I don't come for a while. I know you all, you are all famous...you live in the 3-meo-pcp thread.LOL
 
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Too much stress + 3-MeO-PCP isn't gonna be good when you stop cold turkey, so I'm gonna recommend to have some kind of parachute if you're in the train.
 
Thank you, have you or your group actually read all the public bluelight messages about this 3-meo-pcp train? wow.
 
My group :?I've certainly read a lot of posts and contributed to some of them myself.

My own experience was that after getting into the habit of eyeballing / dosing daily, I became pretty delusional and almost hurt myself in the process.

The only thing that helped was some benzos, cutting out the dissociatives, then eventually my mind suddenly went 'oh wait, I just did way too much 3-meo pcp :) '

Whatever paranoia you're dealing with, remember it is just that and nothing more.

There was nothing my girlfriend at the time could say to convince me otherwise, but eventually you will come back to baseline
 
I suppose you study this, so I mean research group or something.

I've been fucked up by dissociatives a lot of times so this is nothing new for me, thanks anyway for letting me know it will pass.
 
If by study you mean act like a guinea pig then yeah :D

No worries dude, I'm glad you shared your experience, people need to know to treat that drug with extreme care.

edit - FWIW it helps to have someone you can speak to in person if possible, it really is weird how this stuff can convince you of things that might start off based in reality but then end up going into complete fantasy.

If you read through the 3-meo-pcp thread, this is a story that comes up with several people who simply overdid it.

Sending positive chill vibes your way <3
 
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Ello Xammy, 3-meo-pcp has a tendency for causing long strung out experiences like this. Just remember that it's a drug and it will all pass. You are fine, but probably just experiencing residual effects. Just make sure you don't take any more (or anything else other than a benzo or something along those lines) and you'll be fine before you know it. :) x
 
xammy said:
Too much stress + 3-MeO-PCP isn't gonna be good when you stop cold turkey, so I'm gonna recommend to have some kind of parachute if you're in the train.
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Pretty sure that by saying he has a lifetime supply in a gram, that he's saying he only does it once in a while. :)

For the record, I've had periods of time where I do 3-MeO-PCP almost every day for a month, even 2 months. Never had any withdrawal at all. Of course I've also never had withdrawal from cannabis, or nicotine. Opiates on the other hand... glad I don't do those anymore is all I'll say about that.
 
I feel like I only have nicotine addiction atm which interferes with my recovery so I'm trying to keep that in order, I don't like smoking so I'm going to buy some other nicotine products if I can't stop smoking in the following days.

Any idea how many weeks/months of recovery I'm looking to? I feel ok, but I still have some problems trusting certain people. But I have a feeling there's a reason, so I won't go to that in public.

I've been using nicotine for years, so definitely nicotine withdrawals causing anxiety. I was a daily cannabis user last year, but I have vaporized weed maybe 10 times in the last 4-5 months.
 
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@ Xorkoth:

Same here, never experienced withdrawal from dissos or nicotine.

Can have trouble sleeping without weed but that passes after a day or two (and I'd hardly call it suffering).

As for worst, benzos are horrid. Opiates a close second :|
 
Never experienced it with benzos or alcohol either. I have gotten to where I experience it from phenibut but it's light. 10 years of it with opiates though.

Yeah some of my friends say that nicotine is the worst withdrawal they've ever experienced. One of them says he can't think and feels like he's crawling out of his skin. I've quit daily nicotine several times and never had any discomfort at all except for cravings. It's a mental thing to me, I definitely feel compulsed but there's no physical component. I wonder why some people don't feel withdrawal from nicotine?

I have trouble sleeping soundly when I don't smoke for a while too, but it's just because I have more energy, I actually enjoy it because I dream with wildly more intensity. I feel really good immediately upon not smoking, got tons of energy.
 
It's all relative I guess, in terms of whatever psychological coping mechanism has gotten it's grips into you the most.

@xammy - after my 3-meo-meltdown it took me about 2 weeks before I was aware how far out I went mentally. It will pass, I couldn't trust anyone either for a while, but there's no need to worry, most important thing is that you're OK!
 
Xorkoth said:
Pretty sure that by saying he has a lifetime supply in a gram, that he's saying he only does it once in a while. :)
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That´s right, it seems a bit crazy to me to do something like 3-MeO-PCP on a daily basis with the information we have. But I am not much into dissociatives, they seem to me too powerful to do regularly.

Sorry Xammy I didn't know you were going through such problems. You will be alright. After my worst drugs excesses I felt really worn out physically and phychologically, but after the worst of it is done (normally a matter of weeks at the most) I get some kind of reborn feeling, which I feel is a perfect opportunity for growing. Nothing like seeing the wolf teeth to change to another path.
 
Like 4 years ago I ordered tramadol from an online pharmacy that gave me a "prescription". Now all of a sudden, for the past week, I get them calling me literally 10 times a day asking me to refill my prescription. It's so weird, why after so long? Annoying too, I can't get them to stop calling. I asked them to stop calling, they kept calling. They keep calling from the same number though, so I'm just going to ignore it every time until they stop.

In other news, it's windy here... there was just a huge gust of wind that literally blew my front doors open somehow, and sent my garbage can skidding down the street a good hundred yards.
 
Xorkoth said:
Never experienced it with benzos or alcohol either. I have gotten to where I experience it from phenibut but it's light. 10 years of it with opiates though.

Yeah some of my friends say that nicotine is the worst withdrawal they've ever experienced. One of them says he can't think and feels like he's crawling out of his skin. I've quit daily nicotine several times and never had any discomfort at all except for cravings. It's a mental thing to me, I definitely feel compulsed but there's no physical component. I wonder why some people don't feel withdrawal from nicotine?

I have trouble sleeping soundly when I don't smoke for a while too, but it's just because I have more energy, I actually enjoy it because I dream with wildly more intensity. I feel really good immediately upon not smoking, got tons of energy.
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I've been a medium heavy smoker for years, up to 20 cigs a day, and I also never had any initial WD from it. Actually the first few days of quitting were always the easiest for me, and only after a while I would get cravings. So glad I'm over that, three years without tobacco :)

I also wondered why so many people get nasty psychological wd from it, never had that, but still I was very addicted... Strange drug.
 
Xorkoth said:
Like 4 years ago I ordered tramadol from an online pharmacy that gave me a "prescription". Now all of a sudden, for the past week, I get them calling me literally 10 times a day asking me to refill my prescription. It's so weird, why after so long? Annoying too, I can't get them to stop calling. I asked them to stop calling, they kept calling. They keep calling from the same number though, so I'm just going to ignore it every time until they stop.

In other news, it's windy here... there was just a huge gust of wind that literally blew my front doors open somehow, and sent my garbage can skidding down the street a good hundred yards.
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Hahahaha =D what a great mental image this conjures...

Do you have a smartphone? If so you can just block their number so it doesn't ring for them anymore. You can also make a quick call to your wireless carrier and they'll block it for you at the carrier level too.
 
Cool, maybe I'll check that out.

Bagseed said:
I've been a medium heavy smoker for years, up to 20 cigs a day, and I also never had any initial WD from it. Actually the first few days of quitting were always the easiest for me, and only after a while I would get cravings. So glad I'm over that, three years without tobacco :)

I also wondered why so many people get nasty psychological wd from it, never had that, but still I was very addicted... Strange drug.
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Yeah nicotine is the weirdest drug I've done. It's not enjoyable for me, I actually dislike the nicotine buzz, I mean it's alright if it doesn't get too strong. Mostly I just like the action of doing it. Most drugs I like because they get me high. It makes sense to me that I was addicted to opiates, they made me feel really great. But nicotine makes me feel less good, it's not a high at all. When you smoke a bunch of cigs in a night, it basically doesn't feel like anything. Yet, I still want it, for some reason. Very weird.
 
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