Thorns Have Roses
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Sounds like a good time yucatan, you work and party hard.
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omicamushroom
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Cautioned my friends against the xanax. The bottle of vodka has been taken away from him. Hopefully he can sober up a bit from the alcohol consumption, then maybe we can think about the xanax. How long would one have to wait. He drank a 1/3 liter in a few hours... Was chugging it during the hour where he really started to lose it. Real worried right now. Don't want him to hurt anyone or himself. Ahh! Drugs can be so difficult sometimes. Any advice would be helpful.
Thorns Have Roses
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I dunno, just keep the dude inside, in bed or something maybe, tend to his needs, and wait. Keep'em hydrated too.
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yucatanboy2
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omicamushroom, keep the dude hydrated, and sit him down, chill out with him for a while, put some funny/relaxing movie on or something. Bring the vibe down. We've all had crazy freakout times, and it helps a lot when the people around are calm, chill, and relaxed. Keep him comfertable and help direct his attention as he rides out the trip.
Tonight I'm staying at home. I'm tripping on a bit of snorted MXE (35 mgs, which is about an average dose for me), drinking beer, just smoked some hash and I'm watching archer. Today/tonight is time off from my crazy ass work. Gotta get back on that tomorrow and get more shit done. I really like mxe and how it combines well with a little bit of booze.
Never, Work hard play hard, thats the way to go. Just don't play too hard (or work too hard unless you are getting value out of it.. the times I work the hardest are the times that I know I am doing something good for my future... like job apps/publishing work/writing my thesis/etc). Actually, when i was picking a college, my tour guide told me the people there worked really hard and played really hard and I was like "this is the place for me"
Tonight I'm staying at home. I'm tripping on a bit of snorted MXE (35 mgs, which is about an average dose for me), drinking beer, just smoked some hash and I'm watching archer. Today/tonight is time off from my crazy ass work. Gotta get back on that tomorrow and get more shit done. I really like mxe and how it combines well with a little bit of booze.
Never, Work hard play hard, thats the way to go. Just don't play too hard (or work too hard unless you are getting value out of it.. the times I work the hardest are the times that I know I am doing something good for my future... like job apps/publishing work/writing my thesis/etc). Actually, when i was picking a college, my tour guide told me the people there worked really hard and played really hard and I was like "this is the place for me"
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omicamushroom, I agree with everything the others have said, particularly what yucatan said about just trying to keep him calm yourself. Relaxing music can be a life-saver. Just talk to him, remind him he's just tripping and he just has to relax and everything will be amazing. Try talk in a soft voice like you would to a child, and act really calm yourself - the absolute worst thing you can do around a person having a bad trip is to panic, they will pick up on it big time and it'll send them a lot further down that hell-hole of a place.
I just read through Ram Dass/Richard Alpert's "Be Here Now" last night. I can't believe I never took the time to read it all through before. It's like a trip in a book, great read and left me feeling really happy after I finished.
I just read through Ram Dass/Richard Alpert's "Be Here Now" last night. I can't believe I never took the time to read it all through before. It's like a trip in a book, great read and left me feeling really happy after I finished.
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Well I left the situation... I was the sober traveler going over for dinner and then I was going to leave. But the 3 trips happening around me escalated in a funny way. It was a strange dinner... and I never actually got to eat. I left when nearly everything was done being cooked... we just had to get the food on the table. Damn... It woulda been a great delicious meal too.
He thought I was trying to fuck his girlfriend... or had the idea in his mind. I talked to him today and told him that I thought he was going to try and fight me... and he said he probably would have. He calmed down a lot...
Thanks for your replies guys. I have been in this type of situation before... one where I needed to calm someone down... and I am generally very good at it. I've been in a lot of different trips with various people and have seen various people breakdown. I, myself, have broken down once or twice. The first time was mushrooms and I removed myself from the situation... which may have made people worry... but it was good for me to be alone for the 3 or 4 hours while I was freaking out. The second time was too much alcohol + LSD and my friends were able to help me despite how out of control I had become. The latter situation was difficult for anyone present...
This situation last night was a bit different. He was having many violent thoughts. And was directing a lot of his negative energy towards me... rather than the girls. I got out of there but kept my phone open to them... and talked to them frequently throughout the night trying to offer my best advice... I told them to refrain from the xanax... I told them to get some relaxing music... they were able to contact one of his life long and trusted friends... who was able to calm him down a bit.
It was beyond my control really... and as it is the day after... we all agreed that it was good that I got outta there. I felt terrible for leaving though. There was a good possibility things could have gotten violent if I stayed. No I am not trying to fuck his girl... or do anything sexual with her for that matter.... nor has it ever come up... He was just being an egotistical, jealous man... and those type of feelings invaded his mind and overwhelmed him... He was greatly confused... and that angered him...
On some lighter notes... I've been really interested in checking out "Be Here Now." Someday soon... hopefully. Right now I have way too much on my plate to read... and I've been unmotivated... so it has been difficult to get through most of it.
I ate some 2c-c today to sorta check my self and the recent attitudes that have manifested in my mind. I chose to eat 25mg... This was my first real trial with the substance.... I ate it approximately 4.5 hours ago... Nothing really happened. I talked on the phone was people involved with the situation last night. It all happened consecutively and it felt good to talk to people despite the strange subject matter... I was invited for another dinner there later this week.... hahaha hopefully that one goes well. I went grocery shopping to... very little psychedelic effect.... I haven't eaten a psychedelic in 6 or 7 week too. ah well.... Try again soon, I suppose... If it is 2c-c next time, I'll probably shoot for 35.
Peace... and thanks again for you guys that responded within the couple hours that I posted last night... It wasn't new information particularly, but it was appreciated nonetheless... Just one of those difficult situations that really freaked me out. It sucks that it happens sometimes.
Enjoy!
He thought I was trying to fuck his girlfriend... or had the idea in his mind. I talked to him today and told him that I thought he was going to try and fight me... and he said he probably would have. He calmed down a lot...
Thanks for your replies guys. I have been in this type of situation before... one where I needed to calm someone down... and I am generally very good at it. I've been in a lot of different trips with various people and have seen various people breakdown. I, myself, have broken down once or twice. The first time was mushrooms and I removed myself from the situation... which may have made people worry... but it was good for me to be alone for the 3 or 4 hours while I was freaking out. The second time was too much alcohol + LSD and my friends were able to help me despite how out of control I had become. The latter situation was difficult for anyone present...
This situation last night was a bit different. He was having many violent thoughts. And was directing a lot of his negative energy towards me... rather than the girls. I got out of there but kept my phone open to them... and talked to them frequently throughout the night trying to offer my best advice... I told them to refrain from the xanax... I told them to get some relaxing music... they were able to contact one of his life long and trusted friends... who was able to calm him down a bit.
It was beyond my control really... and as it is the day after... we all agreed that it was good that I got outta there. I felt terrible for leaving though. There was a good possibility things could have gotten violent if I stayed. No I am not trying to fuck his girl... or do anything sexual with her for that matter.... nor has it ever come up... He was just being an egotistical, jealous man... and those type of feelings invaded his mind and overwhelmed him... He was greatly confused... and that angered him...
On some lighter notes... I've been really interested in checking out "Be Here Now." Someday soon... hopefully. Right now I have way too much on my plate to read... and I've been unmotivated... so it has been difficult to get through most of it.
I ate some 2c-c today to sorta check my self and the recent attitudes that have manifested in my mind. I chose to eat 25mg... This was my first real trial with the substance.... I ate it approximately 4.5 hours ago... Nothing really happened. I talked on the phone was people involved with the situation last night. It all happened consecutively and it felt good to talk to people despite the strange subject matter... I was invited for another dinner there later this week.... hahaha hopefully that one goes well. I went grocery shopping to... very little psychedelic effect.... I haven't eaten a psychedelic in 6 or 7 week too. ah well.... Try again soon, I suppose... If it is 2c-c next time, I'll probably shoot for 35.
Peace... and thanks again for you guys that responded within the couple hours that I posted last night... It wasn't new information particularly, but it was appreciated nonetheless... Just one of those difficult situations that really freaked me out. It sucks that it happens sometimes.
Enjoy!
Jesusgreen
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I'm real glad everything's all good with him now. I think it'll give him time to reflect on his own insecurities and teach him a valuable lesson. I'm sure despite the negativity of the experience at the time, whatever went through his mind will have taught him something new and it'll come out in a positive light 
I think you made the right decision leaving, if he was having paranoid thoughts about you, no matter how much you tried to calm him, at the time it would have seemed like a threat.
Definitely check out the book. I read through it all last night and it really hit home, I'm still feeling great today after reading it.
As for 2C-C, I suspect that yeah 25mg was a little low a dose, I have a few friends who quite like the chemical and they tend to take 35mg for regular trips and around 50mg for stronger trips, 2C-C does seem to need a little more than some of its fellow 2C-* chemicals. That said, unless you have very little material, titrate up, 35mg, then 40mg, etc, rather than going for 35mg and then shooting straight for 50 if that isn't enough.
I think you made the right decision leaving, if he was having paranoid thoughts about you, no matter how much you tried to calm him, at the time it would have seemed like a threat.Definitely check out the book. I read through it all last night and it really hit home, I'm still feeling great today after reading it.
As for 2C-C, I suspect that yeah 25mg was a little low a dose, I have a few friends who quite like the chemical and they tend to take 35mg for regular trips and around 50mg for stronger trips, 2C-C does seem to need a little more than some of its fellow 2C-* chemicals. That said, unless you have very little material, titrate up, 35mg, then 40mg, etc, rather than going for 35mg and then shooting straight for 50 if that isn't enough.
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I am glad he made out alright too. I think there are many issues we have yet to tackle... A big one is stopping psychedelic use for a while... He always says he slowing down... after 3 weeks he'll start dosing weekly again... The bigger problem is alcohol... He doesn't want to be medicated.... yet he has self-medicated himself into being an alcoholic... Its scary how accessible and accepted alcohol is. Before you know it, you have a problem. A big thing I want to help him with is to mitigate his consumption of alcohol... You don't need to stop drinking everyday... But think of how much alcohol you each week... and drop it by 10% each month... Then when you have drank less for each week comparably... maybe drop certain days... Its too difficult to really say... I'm not an expert... I may have to do some research, and talk to some ex-alcoholics I know....
Besides all that yeah, I've watched some of Ram Dass's lectures on the youtube. Pretty interesting guy... I find it funny that he always goes back to his first mushroom experience. Mushrooms are very special for me too... "Be Here Now," as a phrase is also very special.... I feel that many times people forget that we are actually in the now.... Their minds are either too far ahead of themselves or too caught up in what happened preceding the now. I'd really like to delve deeper into the meanings Ram Dass reveals of the phrase... Perhaps I will order it with my next internet order.... It'd be good to have and read from time to time.
I was expecting 25mg to be very light... I haven't really wanted a full blown experience... I'm trying to plan one... but that may not even go through... I may just keep working with 2c-c. I was able to get a gram close to a year ago... and haven't done anything with it until now. I slowed down my frequency of trips... and was mostly playing was 2cb, 2ce, and acid...
I've been in and outta some strange feelings lately - a little trouble in paradise... So I've been refraining from experimenting too much... Too many bleak thoughts... I'd like to start going at it again... start working on different things.... and using psychedelics to help in finding certain associations, and mapping out the things I've been working on... I have preferred using them in that way... In terms of making music or writing... or thinking about the both and the various aspects of my life that lead me to do these things - work and interpersonal relationships, generally. I was partying too much for a while... Its not good all the time... but I do not regret a having a few strong acid or mushrooms trips at psy trance events. I like to dance
Enjoy!
Besides all that yeah, I've watched some of Ram Dass's lectures on the youtube. Pretty interesting guy... I find it funny that he always goes back to his first mushroom experience. Mushrooms are very special for me too... "Be Here Now," as a phrase is also very special.... I feel that many times people forget that we are actually in the now.... Their minds are either too far ahead of themselves or too caught up in what happened preceding the now. I'd really like to delve deeper into the meanings Ram Dass reveals of the phrase... Perhaps I will order it with my next internet order.... It'd be good to have and read from time to time.
I was expecting 25mg to be very light... I haven't really wanted a full blown experience... I'm trying to plan one... but that may not even go through... I may just keep working with 2c-c. I was able to get a gram close to a year ago... and haven't done anything with it until now. I slowed down my frequency of trips... and was mostly playing was 2cb, 2ce, and acid...
I've been in and outta some strange feelings lately - a little trouble in paradise... So I've been refraining from experimenting too much... Too many bleak thoughts... I'd like to start going at it again... start working on different things.... and using psychedelics to help in finding certain associations, and mapping out the things I've been working on... I have preferred using them in that way... In terms of making music or writing... or thinking about the both and the various aspects of my life that lead me to do these things - work and interpersonal relationships, generally. I was partying too much for a while... Its not good all the time... but I do not regret a having a few strong acid or mushrooms trips at psy trance events. I like to dance
Enjoy!
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So instead of going to the liquor store today, I went to a coffee shop and had a cappuccino. Also threw out my vodka, debating on whether or not to throw out the few bottles of beer I have (I don't want to necessarily cut off alcohol consumption entirely, just stop getting drunk, maybe I'll have to see if I can control myself). When I get back to my place I'm gonna throw out my cooker spoon and the rest of my rigs, which will be a sad moment. Thinking about the future and stuff, when I take the drugs out of the picture, I can actually sort of see myself having a future...(still gonna trip and prolly take up herbage sooner or later).
This may be the start of some very positive things for me, and if not, it's not like I can't go back to the way I have been doing things. It's just, I realized that my usage was actually harmful to me, my life hasn't got any better since I started fucking with shit daily, and has in fact gotten worse, and I was starting to get all emo even whilst on H...that with the daily drunkenness it sort seems obvious now that even if I make positive steps in my life, I'd just be killing myself slowly. Plus devoting 90% of my monies to that shit has been preventing me from having a life/identity outside of my habit.
This may be the start of some very positive things for me, and if not, it's not like I can't go back to the way I have been doing things. It's just, I realized that my usage was actually harmful to me, my life hasn't got any better since I started fucking with shit daily, and has in fact gotten worse, and I was starting to get all emo even whilst on H...that with the daily drunkenness it sort seems obvious now that even if I make positive steps in my life, I'd just be killing myself slowly. Plus devoting 90% of my monies to that shit has been preventing me from having a life/identity outside of my habit.
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oldschool jungle is the best.
oldschool jungle is the best.
Delsyd
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I loved reading your post NKB. Drugs have been a huge part of my life for the last 10 years. Now I'm 26 with hundreds of different drug experiences on dozens of different drugs and I really dont have anything to show for it other than being able to say been there done that. Slowly but surely drugs have started to become a smaller part of my life, being put on the back burner while I try to focus on the things that will really make me happy.
It's actually kind of Fun trying to find something new to be passionate about.
It's such big beautiful world out there.
Also it's not like I don't use drugs anymore. In fact I do still use drugs on a semi regular basis. But as they are not my main focus anymore my usage of them has gone down drastically and it seems like it's just becoming less and less frequent as time goes on.
Much love to you friend.
And may you find what you're looking for.
It's actually kind of Fun trying to find something new to be passionate about.
It's such big beautiful world out there.
Also it's not like I don't use drugs anymore. In fact I do still use drugs on a semi regular basis. But as they are not my main focus anymore my usage of them has gone down drastically and it seems like it's just becoming less and less frequent as time goes on.
Much love to you friend.
And may you find what you're looking for.
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sure
Evidently some BL members are stuck in the 20's, when Duke Ellington was considered "jungle music"-I like to think of 90's jungle music as taking back that term, as both whites and blacks danced to it. Still probably my favorite style of electronic music, LMA have you heard of/what do you think of the "Junglist!" mixtape by Bong-Ra? It's supposed to be the "Ultimate hardcore-jungle/ragga mixtape" but I dunno, I find the songs you post to be more legit
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LOLZ AT HOW SOME COMPARE DIS ^ 2 DIS V
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... I should really focus on my paper, damn these distractions.
TL;DR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHRbEhLj540&feature=related
LOLZ AT HOW SOME COMPARE DIS ^ 2 DIS V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jdR3dBdEmw
... I should really focus on my paper, damn these distractions.
swilow
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That is for DAMN sure. So many exciting things to see and do.
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Hey, the new Younger Brother album is really average. Unfortunate. I was discussing it with my older brother, he was almost apologetic and accused me of disliking it for its rock structures and singing. Not true, I don't like it because it aint that good....Disappointing really.
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I liked last days of gravity... flock of beeps was really cool... but my copy got fucked up shortly after I received due to a hectic lifestyle. The new album is strange, because it is different from the others... It seems slower paced, and less electronic. I'm not sure how I feel about the signing yet. I've only listened once or twice now. Gotta give it a few more listens before I can make a good judgement... the first couple times were half background and half focusing on the music... Maybe I'll pull out my headphones in the next couple days and give it a listen...
On another note... I smoked JWH018 last night.... at around 7mg... It was my second time using it and I was alone and couldn't sleep so I figured what the hell... I don't know anything about it really... and figured 7 wouldn't be too much... I found it to be way too strong... It was scary for a bit. I didn't like it much at all. I have been trying to cut down on the weed.... but haven't been able to really... so 2 weeks ago I stopped smoking it.... but I still crave it... I really need to stop trying to substitute it... and truly sober up a bit.......
Bottomline: Not really digging the JWH. I think it is scary how powerful it could be.
On another note... I smoked JWH018 last night.... at around 7mg... It was my second time using it and I was alone and couldn't sleep so I figured what the hell... I don't know anything about it really... and figured 7 wouldn't be too much... I found it to be way too strong... It was scary for a bit. I didn't like it much at all. I have been trying to cut down on the weed.... but haven't been able to really... so 2 weeks ago I stopped smoking it.... but I still crave it... I really need to stop trying to substitute it... and truly sober up a bit.......
Bottomline: Not really digging the JWH. I think it is scary how powerful it could be.
ah, another fine PD musical interlude. way to keep me up at midnight.
that being said, go go NKB! i hope you ll be fine mate, i cant begin to imagne the difficulties you will be facing in the near future, but keep strong and im sure a life without the habit will be better for you (at the very least healthwise)
that being said, go go NKB! i hope you ll be fine mate, i cant begin to imagne the difficulties you will be facing in the near future, but keep strong and im sure a life without the habit will be better for you (at the very least healthwise)
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