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^^I'm doing the two nights in a row thing, but with MXE :) (last night I passed out for most of my trip). I dose orally, I've never really liked the idea of snorting.
 
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So no, thanks for the taking the time though cloudy! Things too electronicy annoy me for the most part. Downtempo is not something I listen to.

yucatan said:
I'm doing the two nights in a row thing, but with MXE (last night I passed out for most of my trip). I dose orally, I've never really liked the idea of snorting.

Ooh, sounds nice. I'm rather interested in MXE myself, but no internet orders allowed 'till I have employment.

Gotta lie down more now to deal with nausea~ Darnit. I'm now thinking I'm of the opinion that gabaergics, well at least alcohol, takes away from the opiate high. Maybe if I wanna nod I'll have to try chasing...
 
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Indeed, and mine do seem dissonant from many of you PDers.

Man, I'm starting to think I should pick up some oxy to compare potency vs this H. Unless I'm very very lucky (/unlucky) I don't think it'll be cheaper, but I'm getting pretty darn curious.

And I needa get some doxylamine or some antihistamine that actually fucking works properly. Maybe I'm just not too affected by dph, or maybe it's just that I get mine from the 99cent store (30 25mg pills for a dollar! Can't beat that deal).
 
Yucutanboy (2, no less), check out a song called "Stay" by Alphazone. Excellent music, always inspires me and movtivates me.

Artist - Lemongrass
Track - Daybreak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeETT0PhmKE

Artist - Lemongrass
Track - A Journey to a Star
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTXOP8wAqyc

Artist - Burial & Four Tet
Track - Moth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPmUOTR3vH4

Artist - Big Pauper
Track - The Stale Breath of 1000 Lucrative Club Bangers
http://youtu.be/AtLl2_-uBZI

Artist - Telephone Jim Jesus
Track - A Mouth of Finger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHRrb8hPkEs

Artist - Hecq
Track - I will Survive (with Nongenetic)
http://youtu.be/74ZEkxJ05yo

Artist - Jazzyspoon
Track - The Emptiest Spaces
http://soundcloud.com/jazzyspoon/01-the-emptiest-spaces/

A very amphetamine post there ;)
Oh, yea, and Eskmo is cool, his tune Starships really tripped me out when I was on DMT a few months back, all the swelling pads and crackly percussion were comfrotably and coherently translated into a breathing fractalspace.

Damn, I have a bit of MXE and some weed which I was not going to use, but now I want, should I, okay then I will...:)
 
I've been browsing BL, listening to music/finding dank tracks I may have forgotten about or never heard before, and investigating into buying an audio interface - just enjoying an amphetamine and beer night where I can stay up with no worries of obligations the next day. Just wish I got a little more sleep last night, as my head has been a bit cloudy making it a little annoying trying to figure out what exactly to type. Though maybe it was just work wearing on me, but I can't complain as I am happy about making some decent money. Currently staying rent free, making 10 bucks and hour and working forty hours a week (this week a little over time as well), so it feels good to know I'm getting some decent money in the bank.

I've spent a few hours tonight trying to find an audio interface to purchase in the next week or so. I really want to hook up my Alesis micron to the computer, allowing me to use a editor for it's sound modeling capabilities, as well as actually record with it through Ableton Live. Thinking about either the Presonus Firestudio Moble 10x6 or Focusrite Saffire Pro 14 to make this possible., I'll have a decent set up at that point - a homemade noise generator, the mircon, and a Korg padkontrol. I have a drum set as well, but a few mics will have to wait a while longer. The next purchase needed for the mini studio after the audio-interface ($200-250) will be a decent set of monitors like some Rokit KRK's or something of the sort, but that wont be for a little bit. It just would be nice to have some studio monitors for production rather than relying solely on headphones, and to actually have a legit system for production.
 
cloudy those are some awesome tracks :) thanks a lot. i for one, like the downtempo electronic music.
also liked your descriptions of the artists. the four tet track is niiiiice.

though for some reason my brain refuses dubstep. seriously its like i cant undestand it. just goes to show eh...
 
Willow, good to see you back man, congrats on that zero level :)

llama have you ever tried peevee? All I hear is crazy shit about it, like CRAZY tweaked out shit. And for some reason the first thing I always think is "man I bet llama would dig that shit". :D Not that I'm recommending it, of course, because I don't wanna be a bad influence.

Haha, PV is bomb, pretty fucked up shit, very heady, very intense... watch the heart palpitations.

I've done it a few times but it's pretty messy, I still have some but I don't use it. Maybe I'll indulge sometime again.

And srsly try to eat more often bro... amp isn't that bad for you as long as you eat something and don't stay up half the week. Plus I think that stims are just way more euphoric when your body is properly fueled and rested, you get way more spun out and motivated with less sketchiness.

Totally, amphetamine in moderation with sleep and food is the best high there is. When I'm tired and strung from too much speed, the last thing I want is more speed. Get your nutrient and transmitter levels back in check and the next high is so much better.

I am taking coq10, mg+2, multi vit, d3 vit, b-complex vit, fishoils, protein powder, and aspirin daily with partially my amphetamine use in mind. If i'm gonna take doses that are probably a little in excess to be considered safe, better do what I can to minimize the potential problems.

I do the same thing; not exactly but vitamins/fish oils, etc. Also Ginkgo biloba is a good one to add in, it actually potentiates the amp, nootropic type stuff. Vitamin C is key too; antioxidant to take out those free radicals.

Sometimes I worry about amphetamine. I take it to study, but being a neurotoxin I still wonder about memory impairment in the long term. It helps me absorb information in the short term, I just hope it's not a trade off for my ability to do so in the future.

Then again my doses are pretty pussy compared to you guys; 5mg dex today. To get high I need more but then that makes me too energetic to study.
 
Sometimes I worry about amphetamine. I take it to study, but being a neurotoxin I still wonder about memory impairment in the long term. It helps me absorb information in the short term, I just hope it's not a trade off for my ability to do so in the future.

Yeah amp isn't great for the memory, TBH no drugs are. Not even just the neurotoxicity issue (which I don't think is clinically significant at reasonable dosages eg, those used to treat ADHD), but the acute effects of the drug change the way your brain imprints memories.

I don't really think its that big of a deal, though. I just accept the trade-off of added motivation in exchange for a reduction in my peak retention. It usually balances out in favor of the amp, though. Motivation goes a damn long way, actually. Laziness is the limiting factor in any human endeavor... getting by without much intelligence is easy (look at the US congress, for example), but getting by without working hard is damn near impossible. I think this is because all people, from the slowest to the most gifted, actually fall within a rather narrow range of intelligence. Unless you've got an IQ of 200 or something ridiculous like that, intelligence won't really compensate for lack of effort.

Honestly though, amp is an extremely benign drug if you use it correctly. The US military feeds dexies to fighter pilots like candy (they call them "go pills"), and it costs tens of millions of dollars to train one pilot-- so I honestly doubt that the military would make an extremely poor financial decision like wasting all that money by giving them a known dangerous drug. Amphetamine is one of the most thoroughly studied drugs in existence, I feel very comfortable with its safety *provided its not abused*.
 
but the acute effects of the drug change the way your brain imprints memories.

That's sort of what I was thinking. I notice that on amp I think differently. I couldn't discern between whether it was behavioural or chemical or both, but I notice something being different in the way retain information. Also when the amp wears off, a fog sets in. Using it too often makes you start to depend on it to do any studying at all. No bueno.

Since starting school my doses have been low, but I must say frequent; my days on outnumber my days off by a lot. I might have one day a week (usually sunday) where I don't take anything (often Ethylphenidate instead of amp due to shortage, amp is preferred). It's always around 5mg but to not take anything makes the day such a drag.

I don't really think its that big of a deal, though. I just accept the trade-off of added motivation in exchange for a reduction in my peak retention. It usually balances out in favor of the amp, though. Motivation goes a damn long way, actually. Laziness is the limiting factor in any human endeavor... getting by without much intelligence is easy (look at the US congress, for example), but getting by without working hard is damn near impossible. I think this is because all people, from the slowest to the most gifted, actually fall within a rather narrow range of intelligence. Unless you've got an IQ of 200 or something ridiculous like that, intelligence won't really compensate for lack of effort.

LOL @ congress :D

That's a very true paragraph. I know a lot of successful dumb people; they're just motivated. Motivation is absolutely key. You can be really smart but unless you study the material a lot, you don't remember that which you don't know.

The hard part is frequency. When on amp I have lots of motivation; when I'm not I have less motivation. It's hard to not use a low dose very frequently.

What's your frequency like Rog, if ya don't mind me asking?

I'm wondering if I should use it very sporadically, only for hardcore study sessions, or low-dose regularly. Both sides of the coin have their merits. The constant motivation of regular use filters into more parts of life than just studying.
 
What's your frequency like Rog, if ya don't mind me asking?

I'm wondering if I should use it very sporadically, only for hardcore study sessions, or low-dose regularly. Both sides of the coin have their merits. The constant motivation of regular use filters into more parts of life than just studying.

My frequency changes a lot. I've probably been using too much amp lately cuz I have two tests this week, but after those are over I'll probably take at least 5 or 6 days off before I use any again. I didn't use any all summer or for like 3 or so months even before that, so I'm actually kind of coming off a long break. I made a psych appointment for this friday so I can get some more, as my stockpile is almost out.

Its nice to find a middle ground, where you're not using it so frequently that you get diminishing returns, but that you're using it frequently enough to have a bit of a tolerance, so as to not go whacking off for 9 hours at a time after taking your dose. :D I find that goofy whizzed-out shit only happens after I've taken too long of a break and my tolerance completely resets.

Kinda hard for me to believe, but I've been medicated with this shit on and off since I was 9 years old. In fact, by the age of 12 I had a stimulant arsenal in my medicine cabinet that would have made Hunter S. Thompson jealous. I remember that at one point, my pediatrician had me taking adderall XR in the morning, adderall IR at lunch, and focalin IR in the late afternoon. 8( Jesus god, I'm surprised I even have a brain left at all.

Those focalins were nice though, d-methylphenidate is shit for studying but it feels exactly like cocaine. :D
 
Had some fun with 2c-i tonight.
Probably one of my favorite phens.
Euphoric, visual, nostalgic .

A sure winner, so fit to say this is one of my favorites.
And I've tried alot...another 2c-i fanboy....
 
Hai Charlie :)

Yeah I like 2C-I as well, it has great effects on music. I think I still have like ~100mg or so tucked away somewhere, I might try to find it soon and give it a go again. It has this lush, inside-the-genie's-lamp feel to it that I've never really felt on any other psychedelic, its like syrupy thick psychedelia that's both ancient and futuristic. Haha, or at least that's the impression I got from my experiences with it.
 
Neither methylphenidate or amphetamine really have worked that well for me. Methylphenidate didn't really help at all for my ADHD combined, but it was years ago when I was first starting medication for ADHD. I ended up getting switched from I believe 36mg Concerta, after being on it two weeks, to 30 mg amphetamine salt combo ER. I always found amphetamine to really only help a couple aspects of my issues. Low doses would be beneficial for some aspects of my issues, while higher doses beneficial for others, both low doses and high doses have there own issues. With too low of a dose I feel anxious, fidgety, little motivation, but can concentrate better. Too high I become hyper focused, obsessive/perfectionist, but have a lot of motivation.

I wish I would be able to get myself to stay on a therapeutic dose of ketamine for ADHD, as I find it to help with majority of my symptoms on top of anti-depressant and anti-anxiety. I just enjoy dosing it to much to be able to stay on a regiment, and that results in short-term memory problems. Wish I had a non dissociative NDMAr antagonist with the therapeutic potential of ketamine.

Buprenorphine I've found to work wonders for my ADHD as well, with good anti-depressant and anti-anxiety effects as ketamine. It also gives me very nice motivation. I went to work a few times on it, and every time I'd work extremely hard with a smile on my face. Was quite nice to be honest. The long duration was also very pleasing.

Amphetamines duration, and the shittyness of ER formulations, always frustrates me. IR amp comes on with a nice time frame, but +3:00 hours after dosing I start to come down, feel a bit off for the next hour or so (can get agitated pretty easily at this point), start getting some fatigue, and get a desire to redose. The ER has the same issues as IR forms with an annoying period of fatigue and mental offness, comes on way to slow, and its duration is long with no real usual expected time to baseline.

Wish I could find a better option for medication than what is currently on the market. I really rather not have stimulants and don't want SSRIs or similar, but doesn't seem like I have much of a choice.


Got word from my friend that the MXE he acquired for me (owed me a decent bit of cash), arrived today at his place of residence. Should be here by the end of the week along with a few things I left up there in town - killing two birds with one stone.
 
I wish i could put it into words like you Roger

That sounded beautifully...
Been playing with DOC for good mesuaru.
what a wonderful summer, im good with a milligram../or 5
 
Honestly though, amp is an extremely benign drug if you use it correctly. The US military feeds dexies to fighter pilots like candy (they call them "go pills"), and it costs tens of millions of dollars to train one pilot-- so I honestly doubt that the military would make an extremely poor financial decision like wasting all that money by giving them a known dangerous drug. Amphetamine is one of the most thoroughly studied drugs in existence, I feel very comfortable with its safety *provided its not abused*.

That actually scares me a bit. I agree that amphetamines help with motivation, but I think they can really intefere with imupulse control and removing certain natural inhibitions. In fact, the removal of said inhibitions could be seen as a form of motivation; when sober, one may neglect pursuing a problem from a certain angle because that angle seems difficult, irrational or unlikely; on amphetamines, one may be less likely to disregard problem/solutions falling in to the aforementioned category, and take a sort of leap of faith. This can be very helpful for creativity but (in my own experience at least) outcomes can appear to be illogical when observed when sobriety has been regained. I don't like the idea of how this impulsive thinking occurs in military situations. I'm reminded of the "Collateral Murder" video where its clear as daylight that the reuters journo is carrying a camera, and yet, the soldiers somehow convince themselves that its a gun; not only that, its a gun being held by enemy combatants.

Not to say the soldiers involved were on amphetamines (they probably weren't). I just think that people with weapons need to be in as close to sound-mind as possible.

That said, amphetamines are enjoyable; which, if we are honest, is possibly the main reason to use them. I dislike how they almost erase my sense of humour; I feel robotic, and can appreciate humour and wit on an analytical lever, but the act of laughter seems quite foreign.

Anyhow. I'm going to take some more MXE and pack my bags. Peace :)
 
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