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[Thorns Have Roses]

Lack of money, transportation, appropriate clothing...I suppose I could get creative, but I wouldn't try hoboing it without tutelage.

 

[Anon0631]

Well if you ever make it over Europe way, ping me and I'll give you the details of a wonderful and cheap place to see the stars in their full glory. On a beach. Surrounded by desert and mountains and gently lapping waves.

I try to go a couple of times a year to hang out with Bedouins and remember that all the concrete, bills and early mornings is a choice, not a necessity.

 

[SONN]

lots of people are talking about how they've been tripping to much lately. I myself have been on a much needed break, which wasn't done on my own accord, I had a lil inspiration from the government and drug tests and all that

In fact, the first weekend of my testing I decided to try 5-meo-MIPT and frankly I didn't like it at all so I decided that a break would be good anyways rather than me fiendishly trying to use any psychedelics that have no chance of showing up on drug tests.

Sure, I've drank some alcohol, I've done some nitrous, and I got a ritalin prescription, but I still feel as though the break is doing me good.

At first getting used to not smoking weed sucked, because I couldn't put myself to sleep. Then I was pretty okay with it. Now that my testing should be over next week and everyone keeps constantly doing it in front of my face I just sit there wishing I could do it while everyone else does haha. Especially because It's likely that they're not even going to test me next week when I go and get my letter and certificate or whatever. But I do like the clarity that comes with being sober for a good period of time. That being said, I plan to start some sort of therapy whenever I go to my appt with my guidance counselor at school that I have to go to for smoking weed in the dorms last year, just because if I don't have some sort of fun thing to do on the weekend like go out to a show or party or something like that I feel very incomplete and alone

while psychedelics have been very therapeutic at times in my life I feel like I need to try out just a little bit of formalized therapy just to see how it goes.

as of right now I know that I'm going to want to smoke weed when the testing is over, although I really hope it's not anywhere near as much as I did before. Also, I plan to trip again and do k once or twice more but i'm not sure how or when. Maybe I should smoke DMT before I decide to do anything else?

 

[Solipsis]

Entheo I thought you were only just recently reintroduced to psychedelics, and you are overdoing it already? Any idea why that is?

I have picked up tripping again recently as well after a pretty long period in which I only did it very infrequently, and right away I feel like doing it at least once every two weeks. Still I really want to avoid going down the rabbit hole as much as I used to in the full-on experimental phase. But on the other hand I feel like trying new substances, just not testing my limits because for me that means going past them and that destabilizes me and I have grown sensitive over the years already.
I also want to limit or maybe pretty much completely avoid pile-on combo's. This new approach feels so integrated to me and much more responsible and sustainable. Lovely!

It may seem like a question with an obvious answer, but what do you guys feel are reasons to go so far with it of overdo it? Having done it myself I do understand the appeal but it would be interesting to pin things down a bit more.

Arrived back home this evening from almost a week's visit to my parents... delighted to see that meanwhile high purity 5-MeO-DMT and oxy arrived (I am on the latter now). I only had sticky orange 5-MeO-DMT until now and I plan on seeing what I.M.ing it is about. I have only snorted it in the past and think that I have been mostly on the lower end of the intensity spectrum but deceptively so. Actually I quite like limited doses, they still tend to make me feel like everything looks the same but someone subtly switched normal reality with one where everything is heaven, there are no more questions and there is just pure peace and unity. Why push it? I'm not sure if a white-out or breakthrough is where I want to be and I don't want to exacerbate things like anxiety issues.
The only thing that sucked about snorting is the sting in the nose that takes a while to go away, pretty much as long as the duration of the experience. Hopefully it won't burn the muscles too much or overwhelm me no matter what dose... then it would be perfect to do every now and then as an adjunct to getting back into zazen practice again and maybe even practising pencak at home while on it?

SONN, what are your intentions with the DMT and how much experience do you have with it? What dose would you take?

 

[phenethylo J]

I still got a bit of 5meo-dmt left that I have been holding on to. I have tried it like 4-5 times both nasally and in an oil burner and while I definitely got noticeable effects but most were minor. The first time I did 3-4mgs and my last time trying it I vaped 8mgs and didn't waste any of the smoke like the other times. I held it in for a long time and blew out a huge cloud of smoke. While it it was stronger than the other times it still wasn't wasn't even close to break through. I am thinking maybe I should try 11-12mgs next time.

Yesterday I did lsd for the first time in 6 years. I mixed a little bit of ketamine which it which synergize perfectly I had such a magical trip just laying back getting lost in some relaxing music and exploring my back yard. At the end of my trip I took a nice nigh time walk around town. It was super foggy out which really enhanced the experience.

I really need to go easy on the dissociatives. Today is the first day since Monday that I didn't do ketamine and/or mxe. I ran out of ketamine yesterday and while I still have a bunch of mxe left I resisted the temptation to do any and went for a nice long walk on the beach and a bike ride instead which made me feel great. When I get more ketamine this week and am really gonna try and pace my self and not do it day after day.

 

[Anon0631]

It may seem like a question with an obvious answer, but what do you guys feel are reasons to go so far with it of overdo it? Having done it myself I do understand the appeal but it would be interesting to pin things down a bit

For me it's that moderate and infrequent psychedelic experiences are really emotionally good for me so my brain keeps making the assption that more is better. This of course is not true.

I'm also tripping more because there's so many new NBOMe's to try and obviously I want to take all the corresponding 2c's for comparison.

 

[SONN]

Maybe I'm going about it the wrong way, but I aim to use DMT as a form of guidance, something that would catalyse enough introspective thought or just show me enough things to tell me how I should be going about using psychedelics in the near future, or even for the rest of my life. I have a pretty good amount of experience with it, although I'm quite positive i've never experienced what one would call a 'breakthrough.' I've had entity contact, and I've smoked DMT at least 20 times, the highest dose being 60mg. One night I even went though a quarter of a gram probably, but I still don't think I've 'broken through' in the way that most people describe it.

In regards to dosage I have probably 75mg at most left which I recently found (what an awesome thing to forget you have hahaha) and I'm gonna properly weigh it and probably just smoke the whole thing and see where it takes me. I have always wanted to experience a breakthrough just have never quite made it. However, I did have what I would call a 'breakthrough' (and a ++++ experience) on 30mg of 4-aco-DMT which still stands as the greatest trip of my life and probably the most intense moment of my life.

I also just got some syrian rue, and if I decide to do any sort of MAOI + DMT combo I certainly will be doing my research beforehand because multiple people have said it sometimes takes a few tries before you can achieve the desired effects. Also, I don't want to overdo it.

I'm reading syrian rue + smoked DMT trip reports now :D

 

[Anon0631]

Maybe it's just me but I find DMT to have a pretty smooth dose/response curve. I associate 'breakthrough' dosages with compounds that display a sudden up-turn in the dose/response curve at a certain point. IME this is the case for both mushrooms and salvia but not really DMT.

I also found smoked DMT on Syrian rue to be nothing like smoked DMT on its own. I only did it once though.

 

[Thanatos]

Entheo I thought you were only just recently reintroduced to psychedelics, and you are overdoing it already? Any idea why that is?

I think it's because I have a furious poly-drug addiction. And DiPT was so good to me, I basically sat around vaping it for a week straight, and then dug into my ethocin and pscilocetin. Really, I didn't have any spiritual experiences or even deep thought. It was just like getting funky high, reminds me of how Xorkoth used DOC a few years back. I thought psychs may offer some sort of insight, I was open to their lessons but they were no where to be found. I still respect most psych compounds, but they apperantly had nothing to offer me, in my current mental and emotional state. Idk, the tryptamines just got me high with no depth past the altered mindset and sensory distortions.

Am I the only one that finds it odd that I ran through roughly a whole gram of DiPT, and a quarter gram each of Ethocin and Pscilocetin, and 2 grams of MXE in 10 days time? I felt a constant compulsion to dose with a tryptamine. It can't be unheard of, but it's gotta be unusual. My brother had a good amount of my DiPT and MXE as well though. Ran through 10 grams of synthetic cannabinoids during the period as well.

I need to change my life; mind, body, and addiction...

 

[pharmakos]

dang, and i thought i was bad for going through 1 gram of MXE in 11 days time =p (along with a couple dashes of 2C-P, a bottle or two of robitussin, and >100mg of synthetic cannabinoids)

i read your posts through that time period, and you seem to have held your shit together reasonably well, at least.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Am I the only one that finds it odd that I ran through roughly a whole gram of DiPT, and a quarter gram each of Ethocin and Pscilocetin, and 2 grams of MXE in 10 days time? I felt a constant compulsion to dose with a tryptamine. It can't be unheard of, but it's gotta be unusual.

The MXE complemented the tryptamines and made them more pleasant, dissociated thinking made it easier to justify repeated use.

 

[pharmakos]

also

I basically sat around vaping it for a week straight.

i find that smoking/vaporizing/snorting leads to a more destructive dosing pattern with psychedelics.

i believe all psychedelics should be taken orally (unless there's a specific reason why a particular compound won't work orally, of course, i.e. DMT or ketamine)

 

[Noodle473]

i snorted 2ce once then took the rest orally, im glad i had both experiences

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

i find that smoking/vaporizing/snorting leads to a more destructive dosing pattern with psychedelics.

Yeah, parenteral administration is definitely more easily abused.

Oral is best if you want a productive trip (with exceptions, as you mentioned).

 

[Lab-Test Monkey]

Ran through 10 grams of synthetic cannabinoids during the period as well.

I need to change my life; mind, body, and addiction...

Mate if you don't change anything else definitely give up the synthetic cannabinoids or soon you won't be able to enjoy weed at all.

Do a lot of walking (about 2 hours a day) to keep your mind off it and to help sleep better.

I think that it is only tripping too much if you are constantly dwindling your reserves of energy rather than using them less frequently to increase the size of your batteries.

Also on a more lighthearted note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldBhDmvWFXE

 

[pharmakos]

just did something i haven't done in a long time, and in a new way

i've tried nutmeg before, years ago, but only ever bought the preground stuff and usually choked down a lot of it with the old toss-and-wash method

this time, though, i bought a jar of whole nutmeg nuts. i was going to break it open using a hammer, but couldn't find a hammer. i ended up bashing it with a frying pan (which seems to have perhaps worked better than a hammer would have) . smashed a few times to get it broken up, and then put the chunks into a coffee grinder. got it ground down to a powdery texture. then warmed up some of this:

(is actually mostly soy milk)

and mixed the nutmeg powder in. whereas before nutmeg was a chore to get down, this actually made the process a little tasty. the nutmeg powder dissolved to an extent, but not fully... still was a bit of a grainy texture going down, but it wasn't nearly as unpleasant. perhaps with a longer shaking process and more of the vanilla chai tea stuff i could have gotten it into a better emulsion, but it was palatable even with my quick stirring method.

my only concern is that nutmeg takes several hours to come up. my stomach is fairly empty though, and i can feel a bit of a head change already. though i'm sure the major part of the high won't hit for awhile.

going to make sure to drink a lot of fluids.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

^Still have to get around to a proper nutmeg experience myself, but I figure it's something I can put off safely indefinitely. It'll always be around.

Look forward to hearing how yours goes. I have heard of one person who used it for stim comedowns or something, iirc.

Me, I'm drinking straight from this half-gallon bottle of cheap wine. Mmmmm....boozy.

 

[Thanatos]

^ good luck TNW, nutmeg can be very hit or miss, and somewhat dissociative in a datura like way. Be ready for the extremely long duration of the experience. I've only done nutmeg twice, and I was about 15 so take what I say with a grain of salt.

TNW: I'm really glad we can finally get along, maybe the lounge just isn't a good medium for us to interact. Good luck brother!

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Alright guys: I'm drinking my last alcohol until I turn 21 in a month. Grape and orange powerade slushy with 151 Bacardi. I wanna see if I can go a month dry, trying to taper my GABA addiction.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

^Man with your join date and reported break, I thought you were older than me (turning 23 on 3/16).

trying to taper my GABA addiction.

Good luck man, I became a bit psychologically dependent on GBL when I was your age, which transferred on to ethanol, which I have had a less than healthy (but not out of control) relationship with since. Good thing about booze it's damned hard to become physically addicted to, unlike opiates (takes me <1 week once daily IV H use to be miserable and vomit-y when I stop).

 

[pharmakos]

this nutmeg hasn't hit me much yet

i remember it taking a reallllllly long time to come up though

maybe 1 nut isn't enough though. i always heard it was, but perhaps not.

definitely am pretty tired but i wanna stay up and wait it out