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have their been any conclusive studies that MDAI is significantly less bad for you than any of the other MDXX?

I have a feeling that with most stims if they aren't hitting you so hard you could take little 'boosters' of certain things like Caffeine or Theanine or even just most of the stuff in energy drinks.

it worked incredibly well with me on DOC when I drank an energy drink with a lot of theanine and arginine and stuff like that and I felt incredible.
 
wow, thats a nice (and pretty unique) reaction to mdai! glad you had a nice time on it ;) perhaps it is worth a mention in the mdai thread? who knows, others may have had (or may have) similar experiences...

i like mdai on its own though. it doesnt feel that sedating to me at all... it also is the least horny inducing remotly stimmy substance i ve ever tried

IME MDAI actually is a slight aphrodisiac and makes me horny. But nothing like stimulants, I get sexually obsessed on them and so horny I could explode. I don't know if it's some kind of counteraction by my mind, as SSRI's have killed my sex drive almost completely, even after stopping them. The good thing about MDAI is that it's not really a stimulant and has almost zero noradrenergic effects so I can take a few beta blockers before sleep to get my pulse down (which would be dangerous on stims).

I got a bit irritated when the high started to wear off, so I took some pregabalin (it's a wonder drug for me, it turns everything negative to positive every time, stimulant comedowns are erased), propranolol and alcohol. It turned the high into a completely different one.

I really miss psychedelics though. But as long as I'm on benzo WD I've decided not to take them. My mind is not as stable as it would be otherwise, and even if I've almost never needed extra benzos on a trip there's no parachute if things would go seriously wrong. While I normally can encounter fear on trips and actually learn a lot from it, I don't think my mind can handle fear in the same way right now. Obviously I shouldn't use any drugs while on WD but as it's such a long process I can't resist the temptations of drugs.


have their been any conclusive studies that MDAI is significantly less bad for you than any of the other MDXX?

I have a feeling that with most stims if they aren't hitting you so hard you could take little 'boosters' of certain things like Caffeine or Theanine or even just most of the stuff in energy drinks.

it worked incredibly well with me on DOC when I drank an energy drink with a lot of theanine and arginine and stuff like that and I felt incredible.


Conclusive, probably not, as there haven't been any studies involving humans AFAIK. In animal tests MDAI has not shown any neurotoxicity, e.g. according to this study not even when co-administered with certain DRI's. I'm tempted to believe it is not neurotoxic, as it doesn't release dopamine like MDMA or methamphetamine. It certainly messes with your serotonin levels though. I always take antioxidants with any drug (apart from some tryptamines like DMT and 4-AcO-DMT) as a precaution. EPH is not supposed to be neurotoxic either but it damn sure is toxic to your body when used recreationally, it does really nasty things to my heart, and the vascoconstriction is very pronounced on it.

L-Theanine is indeed great, it reduces the edginess on stims while not affecting mental focus negatively. It's a quite good sleep aid occasionally too in high doses. I've never tried it (or caffeine) with my favourite psych 4-AcO-DMT which sometimes makes me extremely sedated and groggy. Theanine could be good for the mental focus while not stimulating you too much. I'm a bit unsure of adding caffeine to psychs though, as caffeine can make me anxious.
 
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^so how do you feel about MDAI overall? is it a worthwhile substance?

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=90652

that was one of the first reports I read about it and decided I would stay away from it.

I'd like to hear how you feel about it.

On its own, I don't think it's very special. Your mind gets quite cloudy on it, maybe not so much with lower doses. But this is a compound that people seem to react quite differently to. I get sedated on it, others feel stimulated. Taken alone it's best suited for chilling and listening to music, maybe talking with a good friend. Combined with stimulants it gets much more euphoric and you have more motivation to do things. I get lazy on it. Also the reports about the comedown or a lack of it, are very varied. I don't get any comedown if the doses are reasonable. Some feel awful after using it. But, it's the same thing with MDMA.

That trip report is quite...extreme in its own way. And the guy took it 3 days in a row! That's a good way to deplete your serotonin and I'm not surprised he felt awful after that. Very few users have had such powerful experiences on it. On the contrary, many feel it's too mild. I don't think it's mild, it's quite heavily intoxicating. But on its own I don't think it's worthwhile, combined with stimulants it's a whole different thing (but can result in neurotoxicity). Even caffeine seems to be enough to make it quite enjoyable. Some do enjoy it on its own though. It has a slightly psychedelic touch to it, and I don't mean visuals (although I have minor visuals on it), but it alters your consciousness, you become more acceptive and forgiving.

If you prefer plain stimulants, I don't think MDAI would be your thing. It's not that clear-headed either. You don't get much stuff done on it. I've grown tired of serotonin releasers and take MDAI very rarely. When I've used the rest of it I'm not going to buy more.
 
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DMT is an amazing chemical. Be sure it was extracted correctly. I would never buy any if I didn't know how the person made it.
You should try it yourself :)

I am getting it from a very trustworthy and highly knowledgeable source who I have used many times for a vairity of differnt chemicals.
 
you aint know bout dat mayne?
thats old news.
this mofo needs to holla at ya boy llama bout dat raw.
cause its been too long.
i should drive to baltimore sometime and look for my boy renegade the bum.
 
nah, cause you know what happened with me getting busted.
and i'm not gonna tell the story again.
 
so i didn't find out until just today that a bunch of 2Cs got federally banned. i'm so bummed.

I'm starting to think that there might be a positive side of this. If all the worthwhile RCs get banned, then people won't really have the option of buying their psychedelics legally, which will strengthen the black market. Ultimately making it easier to get high quality illicits like LSD. Just speculation.
 
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nah, cause you know what happened with me getting busted.
and i'm not gonna tell the story again.

Well something else could have happened, like you might have looked down on a small bird on the top branch of a tree devoid of leaves and felt a stirring deep within you, or seen a local building under different lighting conditions so that it had softer lines and the glow of something novel yet welcoming.

I recently caught a glimpse of myself walking in one of those security-camera tv thingies, and was struck with a profound sense of persoonhood, like that I've felt during high dose dissociatives in those dream-visions (which have a subconscious emotional-wish fulfillment thing going on, IME).

TAC said:
I'm starting to think that there might be a positive side of this. If all the worthwhile RCs get banned, then people won't really have the option of buying their psychedelics legally, which will strengthen the black market. Ultimately making it easier to get high quality illicits like LSD. Just speculation.

I doubt it, psychs are a still very much a niche appeal drug, the advantage of grey-market RCs is that they have enabled people not connected with the psychedelic scene to obtain the drugs, and throwing in some new flavors to a market with very very few options in many places. It's not as simple as decreasing the availability of a given opiate or stimulate or what have you. At least, that's my take on it.
 
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well the diggity i used to buy diesel off of just got at me, they're holdin.
i knew they'd be back in, i'm gettin 2 tomorrow night.
wat it do shawteez?
i'm chillin.
waiting impatiently for midnight-1am to come so i can go out and do hoodrat stuff
 
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sniffing illegal powders
wtf my legs hurt/feel weird
my one leg feels really warm you know for no reason
liek the feeling you get from menthol, like randomly
mofos need to answer their texts.
they got at me last night being like "yo i'm holdin, i got you if you want, come by tomorrow"
i'm waitin to hear back to hammer out the deal. its gonna be 2 or 3 hours before i can get out of the house, if at all, to go pick up tho
and here comes the rain
:(
i dont like coppin in the rain
 
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Ughh today was a long dayyy. Haha. I took what ended up being a rather overwhelming dose of b. caapi tea, and shortly into the trip I somehow decided that it was a good time to clean my room. However, due to the lethargic nature of the intoxication, this project became an enormous and painstaking journey, which took the better part of the whole damn day -- bouts of dogged room-cleaning effort interspersed between periods of lying on my bed, essentially paralyzed, watching bizarre apparitions form and decay before my closed eyes.
 
oh damn apple that sounds crazy
i had to look up B caapi
i aint tripped proper since like last october (doing MXE doesnt count. i aint like disassociatives...), when i nom'd 3 tabs of L and was snortin speed on the peak.
need to do that again sometime, felt good man
today i did nothing!
painfully waiting to hear back from mofos while waiting for other events to take place to set into motion tonight's plans.
i think i'mma start reading my copy of trainspotting atm
i have a feeling certain people are asleep.
cause it was 5am when they got at me last night tellin me they were holdin.
i bet i'll randomly get a text at 3 something in the morning
"yo you wanna come by"
 
Been a bit fiendy lately, but I know it's a bad idea. Wrote a poem about it, with a floral motif (surprise! ;)).

Unfurled moonlight
Moths called by angel's trumpet
Lie on spider's web


Edit: New avatar. In the language of the flowers, the gladiolus means generosity (or it can express sincerity).
 
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