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Enjoy your music playing. There is nothing better

Live music is one of my top 3 activities. Went to 3 shows in a week a while ago back, all at the same place. Nuts, stagedives for days, unofficially sold out.
Next like 20 people for the band I wanted to see. Singer on the floor singin along to a few deep cuts I forgot half the words too.
OG guitarist been in the band 20 years is like "if you can't play for 20-30 people and have a good fucking time then you shouldn't be touring. Some good moshstalgia (not a typo) ;-)

Other was just to get out and I halfway liked the band. Saw a mom and teenage daughter jammin to the same band. Mom cried during the sad love song. Maybe 100 people. All good times
 
Speaking of music. I accidentally broke my favorite acoustic electric guitar about a year and a half ago. BUT, I finally got it again. It's on its way in the mail now. I paid a little more than I originally did for it because its out of production now, but I'm super stoked to have it again. I thought I would never be able to save up enough to get it again. But nonetheless, I should have it by the end of the week.
 
Right on man, I've been meaning to get one of my studio monitors a refurbishing but buyin other stuff right now. Most notably, a ring, new iMac with a solid audio interface and protools/ableton, a ps4, and a new place with my queen in that order. Then get my speaker fixed. Lots of work to do, but that's really all I need besides a vial of some incredibly clean L and maybe a dash of eth-lad. Really all a man needs is these things ;)
 
Help I love you man...

I am having a really hard time tonight. This withdrawal is fucking me up. It has been a year. I can't take it anymore. Everyone thinks I am crazy. Idk I am but I'm not. I just don't fucking know anymore.
 
I feel ya, jammin. Between the lawl school / financial stress and finally ending my long opiate taper, I've been having a pretty rough weekend. If I didn't have bud this would be unbearable. Maybe I should try using some of this alpraz for its normal indicated purpose instead of just a sleep aid / comedown softener.

So over this summer, three of my best friends since high school got engaged. Why is it that Facebook, supposedly a tool young people use to be social, mostly just makes me feel old and lonely? It occurred to me earlier today that, if I end up taking another semester off (as it looks like I'm being forced to do), I'll celebrate my thirtieth birthday while still in school. How the hell did that happen? Like, I've always been a procrastinator, but... Damn.
 
Hey guys, cool to see someone else mention Mr Robot I've been loving that show all summer.
I just got back from a couple days of camping at a Burning Man regional event in New Jersey. A good time! Met lots of great heads. Candyflipped my face off on Saturday. I hadnt taken LSD OR MDMA in tooo long, so it was super strong. Burners are such a friendly helpful bunch, and it is good to see the model work all across the country over the years I've been burning.
 
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Enjoy your show tonight Xorky! I almost typed enjoy your symptom... I've been reading too much Zizek lately.
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Have read some interesting Zizek articles and seen some interesting flicks he was in, but not read any books. Readable?

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I feel ya, jammin. Between the lawl school / financial stress and finally ending my long opiate taper, I've been having a pretty rough weekend. If I didn't have bud this would be unbearable. Maybe I should try using some of this alpraz for its normal indicated purpose instead of just a sleep aid / comedown softener.

So over this summer, three of my best friends since high school got engaged. Why is it that Facebook, supposedly a tool young people use to be social, mostly just makes me feel old and lonely? It occurred to me earlier today that, if I end up taking another semester off (as it looks like I'm being forced to do), I'll celebrate my thirtieth birthday while still in school. How the hell did that happen? Like, I've always been a procrastinator, but... Damn.
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Is it Facebook making you feel old and lonely or a mirror? But, seriously, thirty is young enough. Life can happen in a flash.
 
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Hey guys, cool to see someone else mention Mr Robot I've been loving that show all summer.
I just got back from a couple days of camping at a Burning Man regional event in New Jersey. A good time! Met lots of great heads. Candyflipped my face off on Saturday. I hadnt taken LSD OR MDMA in tooo long, so it was super strong. Burners are such a friendly helpful bunch, and it is good to see the model work all across the country over the years I've been burning.
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I can't get over how fucking good that show is. Perfect score on Rotten Tomatoes - for every single episode in the season. I think I've watched every episode at least 3 times now and I pick up on new things with each rewatch. Technically accurate hacking plots, a style/art direction I would describe as Fight Club meets Stanley Kubrick, a basket case of a main character committed to radical anti-capitalist ideology... It's like this show was written for me. And it's the latest addition to a growing list of excellent TV shows with recovering opiate addict protagonists. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention to this detail before, but between this, Elementary, Fear the Walking Dead, and You're The Worst, there seem to be quite a few recovered/recovering junkies on TV these days.

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Have read some interesting Zizek articles and seen some interesting flicks he was in, but not read any books. Readable?



Is it Facebook making you feel old and lonely or a mirror? But, seriously, thirty is young enough. Life can happen in a flash.
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Depends on your definition of 'readable' I suppose, heh. Zizek's writing style is a very love-it-or-hate-it kind of thing. He rambles a lot, he goes on insane tangents, he forgets his previous point to wax poetic about some historical anecdote or old Yugoslavian dirty joke, and he mixes a very pop philosophy approach (the aforementioned tangents and random dirty jokes, frequent analogies to bad movies, analysis of seemingly trivial pop culture phenomena) with some very dense and often counter-intuitive philosophy (his main influences are Kant, Hegel, Marx, and Lacan - an eclectic group to say the least). I find him insightful and entertaining to read, but many people very reasonably find him insufferable. I don't know if I would have appreciated him nearly as much if I hadn't learned him in the context of college policy debate, being coached by a Ph.D. student in Lacanian psychoanalysis... But my first full Zizek books were The Sublime Object of Ideology (his first full length book in English, a good intro to his reading of Lacan with a healthy splash of Hegel and Kant) and Revolution at the Gates (a short book, largely consisting of Lenin excerpts, but the Zizek-written chunks in between are probably the clearest explanation of how his Lacanian psychobabble relates to his Marxist-Leninist politics), decent starting places if you wanna give him a shot.

Self-deprecating jokes aside, I actually love Facebook. I'm absolutely terrible at keeping in touch w/ friends and family, and FB allows me to feel at least a little bit connected with people I haven't actually seen or spoken to in years. Plus, being the socially anxious ball of neuroses that I am, it's easier to maintain social appearances and project a sanitized version of my day-to-day life in digital form. All things considered, graduating from a good law school at 30 is a better outcome than I would have predicted for myself a decade ago. The whole 'a growing majority of my close long term friends are married or engaged and I haven't been in a serious relationship for years' thing is still a bit unsettling, though.
 
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That was a lovely post psoli.

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Do you have 'tangible' reasons for being bitter?
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Same shit I've been complaining about for the last half-decade. Aside from that, when I see all those people who are socially functional and able to form meaningful relationships with other human beings and all that other normal person stuff, I often cannot help but resenting them in my envy.

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Maybe I digress but the main point is first I would like to know if you (thorn-focuser :) ) have legitimate reasons to be bitter like repeated violation of trust, or that you don't have confidence that the world or your own life will lead to something you want?
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The former certainly when I was young, I have difficulty trusting people (it took a year and a half at my current job 'til I was on comfortable conversational terms with my the other guy who works the same position), and the second thing is so as well.

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I just muttered "fuckijg America" to myself.
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For you.
 
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I can't get over how fucking good that show is. Perfect score on Rotten Tomatoes - for every single episode in the season. I think I've watched every episode at least 3 times now and I pick up on new things with each rewatch. Technically accurate hacking plots, a style/art direction I would describe as Fight Club meets Stanley Kubrick, a basket case of a main character committed to radical anti-capitalist ideology... It's like this show was written for me. And it's the latest addition to a growing list of excellent TV shows with recovering opiate addict protagonists. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention to this detail before, but between this, Elementary, Fear the Walking Dead and You're The Worst, there seem to be quite a few recovered/recovering junkies on TV these days.
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I appreciated the detail in the computer stuff, but they could've done as much research into the drug stuff (pharmacologically/chemically and a culturally/economically) for some verisimilitude, no? I rather liked most of the show, but found some of it needlessly melodramatic and edgy, and the characters-that-are-a-product-of-the-protagonist's-head will always feel derivative of Fight Club in these days for better or for worse. I haven't watched the finale because of that ridiculous self-censorship in case, God forbid, they should trigger someone, but you remind me that I'll have to hit that up on Popcorn Time ... so yeah, I'm watching it. I wonder about the politics, though, since like all mass media it's emanating from the very dark heart of the Establishment, but it's on at least the surface you just as say radically anti-capitalist, like a few other things, Rage Against the Machine being on a big contract with Epic Records a division of oh so corporate Sony,comes to mind, and so on, and so on ...

Depends on your definition of 'readable' I suppose, heh. Zizek's writing style is a very love-it-or-hate-it kind of thing. He rambles a lot, he goes on insane tangents, he forgets his previous point to wax poetic about some historical anecdote or old Yugoslavian dirty joke, and he mixes a very pop philosophy approach (the aforementioned tangents and random dirty jokes, frequent analogies to bad movies, analysis of seemingly trivial pop culture phenomena) with some very dense and often counter-intuitive philosophy (his main influences are Kant, Hegel, Marx, and Lacan - an eclectic group to say the least). I find him insightful and entertaining to read, but many people very reasonably find him insufferable. I don't know if I would have appreciated him nearly as much if I hadn't learned him in the context of college policy debate, being coached by a Ph.D. student in Lacanian psychoanalysis... But my first full Zizek books were The Sublime Object of Ideology (his first full length book in English, a good intro to his reading of Lacan with a healthy splash of Hegel and Kant) and Revolution at the Gates (a short book, largely consisting of Lenin excerpts, but the Zizek-written chunks in between are probably the clearest explanation of how his Lacanian psychobabble relates to his Marxist-Leninist politics), decent starting places if you wanna give him a shot.
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I've read my Žižek and appreciated him, I always appreciated reading some stuff that diverges from my own perspective ... but yet it doesn't always diverge as much as I might assume. I gather that you and I have rather diametrically opposed political views, but I think the horseshoe-theory has some application here. I'm what would be best described as a genuine reactionary, on the somewhat radical anti-liberal(*in the classical sense), anti-bourgeois Right, with an emphasis on traditional social and ethnic values, c.f. Chesterton, distributism, but as the man himself said:
GKC said:
“The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected. Even when the revolutionist might himself repent of his revolution, the traditionalist is already defending it as part of his tradition. Thus we have two great types -- the advanced person who rushes us into ruin, and the retrospective person who admires the ruins. He admires them especially by moonlight, not to say moonshine. Each new blunder of the progressive or prig becomes instantly a legend of immemorial antiquity for the snob. This is called the balance, or mutual check, in our Constitution.”
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... but also Dávila, Leo XIII PP, and even to an extent Evola, and yes, I am drawn to more than a few elements from the newly emerging esoteric Internet fascist types, though I recognize their utter naïveté and impracticability, and for all that yet I can find a great deal to agree with in the leftist critique of bourgeois societal structures, and being that psychiatry is my day job, find the Lacanian (and to a lesser extent, Deluzian) critique of our deeply fucked up modern world as it manifests itself in our individual psyches at least minimally compelling, although I rather inherently disagree with their ultimate goals or conclusion. I suspect you and I would have a rather interesting and spirited political discussion should we ever have the chance.

Self-deprecating jokes aside, I actually love Facebook. I'm absolutely terrible at keeping in touch w/ friends and family, and FB allows me to feel at least a little bit connected with people I haven't actually seen or spoken to in years. Plus, being the socially anxious ball of neuroses that I am, it's easier to maintain social appearances and project a sanitized version of my day-to-day life in digital form. All things considered, graduating from a good law school at 30 is a better outcome than I would have predicted for myself a decade ago. The whole 'a growing majority of my close long term friends are married or engaged and I haven't been in a serious relationship for years' thing is still a bit unsettling, though.
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I was on facebook during my early college years, when you needed a dot-edu address to join and be a part of an approved educational institution and all that, but left it soon thereafter for operation security reasons, since then it has I guess evolved into something totally different, worldwide, and yeah, fuck that. Up with Google in the candidates to be the aforementioned Robot's "E-corp," despite the felicities of connecting with old friends and all that. I'm shit at that too, reconnecting with friends, even family, but again, half of that is OPSEC, ingrained habits from years in the game, even though I've been years out of the game, even statute of limitations type years, which is why I'm telling a lot more amusing stories on this forum lately, and yet it seems like there's an enormous psychological barrier to reach out to anyone, given how isolated I was in the name of my own safety back when things were what they were, so part of me is also like, I was so isolated from all these people over so many years, so who should give a fuck about me now, even family. So in my present life it's probably clinically paranoid, given that I'm no longer involved with any of that stuff, each node in the social network seems to provide additional information to the Man, and thus additional threat, if you dig. Even though I'm thoroughly retired and for some years from anything which should per se require such, I find it difficult to deviate from the precepts which I taught myself so many years ago. I still rock the prepaid phone, etc. It's fully ingrained in me. Anything on the Internet that requires me to dox myself just troubles me to my soul. I don't even like signing up for those supermarket discount cards, because, you know, why should I tell those bastards and probably the NSA what I'm buying every week? But maybe that's just my PI. What can you do?

Anyway, yeah, God bless. Hope you and I get to have the opportunity to have some pleasant, mutually enriching political discussions sometime in the future.

Hope everyone else is well. I'm busy with work and when off, drinking myself into a stupor. As I said in my introductory post, corpulent, alcoholic, menlacholic, medicated. But honestly, the psych meds are working. Starting to be less melancholic and able to leave the house without panic attacks. If anyone cares I'll be happy to list 'em and give advice seeing as I'm not only a recipient but an active participant in this model of care towards others. I'd encourage anybody in need not to be ashamed and to step up and seek out some psychiatric care. And see, this point took me years to accept, but our whole scene is about better living through chemistry, right? We'll seek after the latest analogue and comment endlessly about it's virtues and unique characteristics, but some of us will spurn what we can have at the doctor's office. I think that's a fallacy. The modern world is so deeply fucked up that we need to seek solace in psychopharmacology and we ought to seek it out wherever we can have it, probably with a preference to the legal and the less dangerous and physically and psychologically impairing, so yeah. All of us, I think, in this community share a certain disaffection with the psychological and sociopolitical status quo, it's what drives us to alter our consciousness, but we ought to embrace all the options, yeah? I myself know that psychologically I am far from ready for a psychedelic experience in my current state, so instead it's about 6 prescriptions and a lot of hard liquor, but whatever it takes to wake up and face this fucked up world that we live in, right?

God bless you all and I hope this finds you well. I can't even express how much this community has meant to me over the years, and now it's quite a different community, but I feel blessed to reconnect with it and with all of you.

With warm regards,
SKL
 
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Well, I certainly applaud people getting help, I would just steer clear of APs. I react pretty normal to most drugs and can tolerate pretty extreme states and high dosages of drugs. If I didn't have a solid understanding of what was happening to me, I would be in for a pretty tough time. AP withdrawal can be more common than you think it is pretty severe and they have a lot of ability to do serious damage, I can attest to this. Kinda fucked up because they were the only that really helped me much. It makes kicking opiates and benzos cold turkey look like a total joke just because it is so long-lasting if for nothing else. It is supremely fucked up and I wouldn't wish it on anyone SKL. I know everybody doesn't react that way, but when they do, it is bad news. I think zyprexa is worse than most though. I don't think seroquel is that bad or probably some others. Just hate to see that happen to anyone bc I think I have permanent things from these medicines but only time will tell.

I appreciate the support in this thread and was having a bit of an alcohol meltdown. I am feeling okay now just over my head as usual. All good now. =D
 
I am not a big fan of Zyprexa. To be honest it is overrated as a general use neuroleptic and the best use for it is in emergent contexts, limited/p.r.n. use, to deal with psychotic states that are tinged with mania. Daily dosing I'm not quite as much an advocate of it, and it also has some rather nasty metabolic side effects besides. Most people on it would do better on Clozaril but there are whole protocols for getting on that because our profession is so politically correct and risk averse these days. Speaking of atypicals Geodon is also utter shit, has some degree of value dealing with acute agitation but only when paired with a BZD (usually Ativan,) and that only i.m., p.o. absorption is too dependent on being taken with food, lipids, 20mg p.o. is about 5mg i.m. or less, 20mg i.m. being the standard dose for treating acute agitation usually paired with 2-4mg ativan and tbh not very useful without that adjunct. When speaking of treating real schizophrenics, most of the atypicals, with the exception of Clozaril, are kinda overrated, comparing them to the typicals you are only talking about spending a lot more money and trading risk of TD for risk of metabolic issues. I prefer to stick to the tried and true (Haldol, especially Prolixin, especially the long acting (decanoate) form, in the noncompliant, to a lesser extent the granddaddy of them all, Thorazine.) Clozaril remains the most effective though, despite the risks, and the attendant risks management factors that you have to take into account. Risperdal is useful and sort of a middle ground between typical and atypical, and Invega is just the something-OH metabolite of the same, so really just patent dodging tricks. So yeah, if you are a legit schizophrenic, Prolixin dec or Cloz, if you are acutely agitated, the classic cocktail, Haldol/Benadryl/Ativan (5/50/2 or if you are hardcore 10/50-100/4, i.m. that is), Now, if you are something else, the use of neuroleptics is something that ought to be approached pretty carefully, I think you and I are agreed on this point, and so does the more conservative and reputable medical literature. Seroquel and a few others have laudable thymoleptic qualities, but for a lot of them, the side effect profile outweighs the benefits despite some aggressive pushing by pharma. Abilify is an exception, IME it is useless in the serious SPMI pt but useful in the less ill but refractory to usual treatments person with some depresssion or bipolarity. But as with all psychopharm be it clinical or recrational, YMMV, immensely, clinically honestly we know less of what we are doing than we would like to think, it is a lot of clinical intuition and trial and error, that is the best we can offer, but when we get it right, and we usually do, even if it's qualified with "eventually," we can do a lot of help for people.

Honestly, though, if my depression did not improve with meds, I would readily sign myself up for ECT, which I have seen have near miraculous effects on really refractory cases of depression, aggressive/violent/just generally fucked up scz, catatonia, and a lot of other things. A treatment which is way too underrated and stigmatized in our society too much (thanks to Ken Kesey,r eally.)
 
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That is a great Chesterton quote, SKL. Man, I still need to read that guy.

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but also Dávila, Leo XIII PP, and even to an extent Evola, and yes, I am drawn to more than a few elements from the newly emerging esoteric Internet fascist types
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So there's a whole gaggle of weird internet people taking inspiration from Catholic thought? Interesting.
 
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I appreciated the detail in the computer stuff, but they could've done as much research into the drug stuff (pharmacologically/chemically and a culturally/economically) for some verisimilitude, no? I rather liked most of the show, but found some of it needlessly melodramatic and edgy, and the characters-that-are-a-product-of-the-protagonist's-head will always feel derivative of Fight Club in these days for better or for worse. I haven't watched the finale because of that ridiculous self-censorship in case, God forbid, they should trigger someone, but you remind me that I'll have to hit that up on Popcorn Time ... so yeah, I'm watching it. I wonder about the politics, though, since like all mass media it's emanating from the very dark heart of the Establishment, but it's on at least the surface you just as say radically anti-capitalist, like a few other things, Rage Against the Machine being on a big contract with Epic Records a division of oh so corporate Sony,comes to mind, and so on, and so on ...
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Yeah, the drug stuff could have been better. The idea that the only person in NYC selling suboxone was one particular violent sociopath of a meth dealer was questionable (although I guess that could just be the limits of Shayla's connections, not the city drug market per se). The part that really makes no sense to me about that plot was Elliot not knowing how to use the friggin' darknet... He even talked about Tor in the pilot episode! But maybe he's just too paranoid to do that, especially since he apparently knew of some Tor de-anonymizing techniques.



I've read my Žižek and appreciated him, I always appreciated reading some stuff that diverges from my own perspective ... but yet it doesn't always diverge as much as I might assume. I gather that you and I have rather diametrically opposed political views, but I think the horseshoe-theory has some application here. I'm what would be best described as a genuine reactionary, on the somewhat radical anti-liberal(*in the classical sense), anti-bourgeois Right, with an emphasis on traditional social and ethnic values, c.f. Chesterton, distributism, but as the man himself said:

... but also Dávila, Leo XIII PP, and even to an extent Evola, and yes, I am drawn to more than a few elements from the newly emerging esoteric Internet fascist types, though I recognize their utter naïveté and impracticability, and for all that yet I can find a great deal to agree with in the leftist critique of bourgeois societal structures, and being that psychiatry is my day job, find the Lacanian (and to a lesser extent, Deluzian) critique of our deeply fucked up modern world as it manifests itself in our individual psyches at least minimally compelling, although I rather inherently disagree with their ultimate goals or conclusion. I suspect you and I would have a rather interesting and spirited political discussion should we ever have the chance.
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Yeah, Zizek is probably one of the most approachable/readable Marxists for non-Marxists to read and appreciate. He's such a shameless contrarian that basically nobody but Zizek agrees with Zizek on everything, but even when you think he's kind of full of shit it's always an entertaining ride. And not caring one iota about pissing off his ideological 'allies' means that he has some rather original insights at times that apply Marxist/leftist arguments in a way you would never hear from a more orthodox Marxist. His penchant for picking a fight with every other philosopher / political thinker made him the perfect theorist to learn through policy debate, too - you can make Zizek arguments every single debate round, even if the other team goes first and reads Zizek too! :D I, too, suspect that we could have quite an animated political discussion/debate, if we could avoid the usual "pinko!" v. "fascist!" shouting match.

Fuck Deleuze, though. I can never forgive D&G for Anti-Oedipus ;) A Thousand Plateaus has its moments, but I still think schizoanalysis is just Lacan with a heaping dose of postmodern bullshit.



I was on facebook during my early college years, when you needed a dot-edu address to join and be a part of an approved educational institution and all that, but left it soon thereafter for operation security reasons, since then it has I guess evolved into something totally different, worldwide, and yeah, fuck that. Up with Google in the candidates to be the aforementioned Robot's "E-corp," despite the felicities of connecting with old friends and all that. I'm shit at that too, reconnecting with friends, even family, but again, half of that is OPSEC, ingrained habits from years in the game, even though I've been years out of the game, even statute of limitations type years, which is why I'm telling a lot more amusing stories on this forum lately, and yet it seems like there's an enormous psychological barrier to reach out to anyone, given how isolated I was in the name of my own safety back when things were what they were, so part of me is also like, I was so isolated from all these people over so many years, so who should give a fuck about me now, even family. So in my present life it's probably clinically paranoid, given that I'm no longer involved with any of that stuff, each node in the social network seems to provide additional information to the Man, and thus additional threat, if you dig. Even though I'm thoroughly retired and for some years from anything which should per se require such, I find it difficult to deviate from the precepts which I taught myself so many years ago. I still rock the prepaid phone, etc. It's fully ingrained in me. Anything on the Internet that requires me to dox myself just troubles me to my soul. I don't even like signing up for those supermarket discount cards, because, you know, why should I tell those bastards and probably the NSA what I'm buying every week? But maybe that's just my PI. What can you do?
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I know what you mean, although I took the alternate approach of maintaining a fictional and sanitized version of myself on social media. For many years it bore little resemblance to my actual life - now I'd say about 80% of my life is "safe for Facebook." I guess you're Elliot and I'm Tyrell when it comes to social media. If any paranoid hackers doxx me and trawl through my FB posts, they'll assume it's a setup because it's too idyllic and clean house. Or something like that.

Anyway, yeah, God bless. Hope you and I get to have the opportunity to have some pleasant, mutually enriching political discussions sometime in the future.
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Indeed, comrade. I'll raise your class consciousness yet, and bring you onboard Team Dictatorship of the Proletariat ;)

Hope everyone else is well. I'm busy with work and when off, drinking myself into a stupor. As I said in my introductory post, corpulent, alcoholic, menlacholic, medicated. But honestly, the psych meds are working. Starting to be less melancholic and able to leave the house without panic attacks. If anyone cares I'll be happy to list 'em and give advice seeing as I'm not only a recipient but an active participant in this model of care towards others. I'd encourage anybody in need not to be ashamed and to step up and seek out some psychiatric care. And see, this point took me years to accept, but our whole scene is about better living through chemistry, right? We'll seek after the latest analogue and comment endlessly about it's virtues and unique characteristics, but some of us will spurn what we can have at the doctor's office. I think that's a fallacy. The modern world is so deeply fucked up that we need to seek solace in psychopharmacology and we ought to seek it out wherever we can have it, probably with a preference to the legal and the less dangerous and physically and psychologically impairing, so yeah. All of us, I think, in this community share a certain disaffection with the psychological and sociopolitical status quo, it's what drives us to alter our consciousness, but we ought to embrace all the options, yeah? I myself know that psychologically I am far from ready for a psychedelic experience in my current state, so instead it's about 6 prescriptions and a lot of hard liquor, but whatever it takes to wake up and face this fucked up world that we live in, right?

God bless you all and I hope this finds you well. I can't even express how much this community has meant to me over the years, and now it's quite a different community, but I feel blessed to reconnect with it and with all of you.

With warm regards,
SKL
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Well said. I spent years knowing I was struggling with psychological and behavioral symptoms but making a variety of rationalizations and excuses not to seek any form of professional care. They'll just call me depressed and give me some shitty tricyclic that will make me feel like a zombie and fuck with my ability to trip/roll; I don't need help, I'm just lazy/antisocial and need to snap out of it; that shit works for normal people maybe, but I'm too intelligent and opinionated for therapy; I'll just read up on this stuff online and self-manage my recovery. Nope, nope, a thousand times nope. Psychology, psychiatry, and psychopharmacology are all imperfect but potentially very helpful tools in navigating this fucked up world. That said, I am still deeply skeptical of certain widely prescribed classes of drug (like the aforementioned tricyclics - they put my friend on some new 'next gen' one recently, for fucking ADHD and anxiety!). That's an indictment of bad psychologists/psychiatrists who resort to pharmacological nuclear options too quickly, though, not of the value of psychopharmacology in general when practiced more responsibly.
 
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