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I just had such a weird experience, I had been sitting at the computer getting more and more stressed out/depressed about a current life situation that I'm struggling to deal with, and as I got up from my chair I just zoned out of everything, I lost my grounding on reality, as if merely living was too overwhelming for me to contemplate and fell down in what seemed like uber-slow motion in an extremely weird contorted manner, but from how I feel and the noise I made, must've been quite fast. My right arm hurts quite a lot now as I guess I must've smacked it in the process. I've never fainted or anything before, so this was a very odd experience. Any idea as to what may have caused it?
 
SpecialK_ said:
I love 25c-nbome, but the one thing putting me off getting more is how it isn't too well researched. If you were dosing once a month at most, at insufflated doses only really reaching 2mg at maximum is it likely there will be no ill/negative long term effect from this? Do people believe this will be as potentially safe as LSD once it's a bit more researched? I know there is no 100% answer to this, but is this spaced time between doses fairly sufficient to prevent any real problems? After all there hasn't been really any negative effects noticed from dosing say every week or two apart from tolerance has there?

Many people comment the 2cs are more inclined to induce HPPD, however I've not noticed this personally but tend to stick to my LSD/Mushrooms. I just really like this compound, I just don't want to end up with any negative effects.

I've posted this in social as I'd like a more relaxed response, see what people really think as we don't really have the scientific proof to fall back on this one. Does the molecule look entirely safe?
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Well, like you said, nobody really knows any factual information about the NBOMes. It's all wild speculation at this point. And I'm no pharmacologist, so take the following with a grain of salt, but I did read that the more potent psychoactive drugs generally tend to be less physically toxic, because at a standard dosage there is simply less of the drug in your body, interacting negatively with physiological functions. In other words, the toxicity doesn't necessarily correlate with the psychoactivity, at least not as much as you'd expect. So that's one bonus for the NBOMe series. Also, a fellow BL member "erny", I believe, intramuscularly injected 30mg 25B-NBOMe from a mislabeled batch, and lived to tell the tale (however this member also concludes that 4mg could be fatal).

On the other hand, look at Bromo-Dragonfly, a psychedelic phenethylamine which appears to have a relatively unforgiving therapeutic ratio, despite being almost as potent as LSD (correct me if I'm wrong).

If you're insufflating 2mg per trip, I'd say you're doing way too much, though. Unless you're really slowly titrating the dose, and tolerance is a factor. A couple nights ago when I first tried 25C-NBOMe intranasally, after a couple redoses I ended up at 900 mcg, which I could tell was a little bit of an overload, and kind of rough around the edges, at least for me. ~700-800 mcg should be plenty.
 
alantis360 said:
hey i love everyone in here
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Atlantis, nice to see you! How have things been?


volundr said:
I've never fainted or anything before, so this was a very odd experience. Any idea as to what may have caused it?
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Could it have been a low BP thing?


special_k said:
I love 25c-nbome, but the one thing putting me off getting more is how it isn't too well researched. If you were dosing once a month at most, at insufflated doses only really reaching 2mg at maximum is it likely there will be no ill/negative long term effect from this? Do people believe this will be as potentially safe as LSD once it's a bit more researched? I know there is no 100% answer to this, but is this spaced time between doses fairly sufficient to prevent any real problems? After all there hasn't been really any negative effects noticed from dosing say every week or two apart from tolerance has there?
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I doubt it'd have anything near LSD's safety profile. I believe I've read anecdotal reports of substantial, if not worrying, vasoconstriction on higher doses of certain 25x-nbome's (I could be recalling incorrectly?). Once a month usage would probably be not cause issues more than any other psych afaik.
 
yes definitely in a good way. It's amazing sometimes how quick you can get back on your feet if you try.
 
That's good to hear. Personally I am kind of in a rut, but I don't think change is coming for a while. My round of applications for jobs seems to be for naught (35+ applications to colleges and universities), and the season is over until next year. I wrote a 12 page research proposal that I thought was pretty good. Seems to have been shot down though. I've got one interview, but I am not holding high hopes of getting the job. Its just so damn competitive out there. Too many PhDs, not enough jobs.
 
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I've got one interview, but I am not holding high hopes of getting the job. Its just so damn competitive out there. Too many PhDs, not enough jobs.
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Best of luck dude and I agree with all of that.

It's getting to the point now that so many people have high education and the institutions aren't able (or willing) to absorb them. I'm of the opinion that they should hire way more profs. Class sizes of 300 are BS, there's no real interaction and there's no reason for not hiring more profs. They have the money, class sizes are too big, quality of education suffers, there's a surplus of PhD's without jobs; I think I have an answer for that!

I'm totally fuckered; I just finished my last mid-term today I've dived into a mosaic of powders. Opiates, benzos, MDAI, MXE.. a good all night bosh.

I quite like MDAI; a terrible way to try a chemical for the first time but I can tell I like it. Smooth stuff.

As usual, dissociatives and quasi-psychedelics gave me a glimpse of why I'm having such a hard time with a lot of things, including grades.

Dondante dude, you hit the nail on the head. When amphetamine migrated from the enjoyable stimulant while camping into a more regular role, things changed. That seductive garbage has done nothing but hold me down while I'm working my ass off. It sucks for memory retention while making you feel like you're being productive.

I think my phase with that stuff is over, it feels like switch has been flipped and I no longer desire that false feeling and all the memory crippling tension that goes with it. No more will that stuff be consumed while indoors.
 
Gonna get both inner forearms tattooed tomorrow afternoon, doubt if I'll be able to sleep :D :\

Was initially considering taking opium or something like that but I decided against it plus if they'd notice they have a policy against tattooing people under the influence. Anyway I don't want to make any sudden movements from the grating sensations so I decided I will just take extra diazepam.

I'm not really freaking out about it, but I'm not exactly mellow either.
 
^ Nice, show us pics when they're done! :) Personally I would just do it sober, go for the full experience. :D
 
Good point that's pretty much why I am opting out of analgesics, but there are fine lines to it so more certainty that I can hold still is more important to me than experiencing it 100% sober. Anyway I am on a daily dose of diazepam anyway so it's hardly possible anyway.
Hmm which benzo would be ideal would you say? I have plenty of types, I wonder what is best for holding still without being a drooling vegetable... a friend of mine had wisdom teeth pulled (all 4) on midazolam. I'd do that if it wasn't so hypnotic.

Actually what I'd totally go for is propanolol or something.

And yeah I'll show pics after a week or so when it's mostly healed.
 
Yeah, if you have access to beta-blockers, those would probably be a pretty decent preventative measure against the shakes.
 
Interesting. I'm currently deciding what to get for my first tattoo myself, and scouting out local artists/studios so I can make sure it's quality. I have some ideas but I think it'll probably be a while yet before I'm 100% settled, as I don't want to change my mind afterwards.

Finally know a local pub that's real decent with a great crowd and atmosphere (smoked DMT and weed at the bar there last week with the bar staff and some of the other locals 8() so I'm going down there again tomorrow, maybe buy some weed too :)
 
^ For my first tattoo, I'm just going to find a tattoo artist whose work I admire, and whose judgment I trust, and instruct him or her to just follow their own imagination. I figure, I'm not the artist here -- the person holding the tattoo gun is -- I feel like telling them how to create their artwork is like dictating a melody to my favorite musician. Although, I can appreciate that many other people would not be comfortable allowing someone else to use their body as a canvas in this unrestricted fashion, or might simply want a particular theme or image in their tattoo.
 
Interesting idea. I could go through with something like that, I'd have to at least guide it somewhat though - I mean, if I did that, I'd want the tattoo artist to be a close friend, somehow who would draw from their own inspiration - but something that would fit me, rather than just their own ideas, and make something really personal for me.

I kind of want my first tattoo to relate to my spirituality, possibly to my use of psychedelics, and my love for all people - just something all encompassing and simple. I'd like it to be personal to me though that people I knew would recognise and understand why I have it etc.
 
Well I don't ;)
Got any plans for the weekend?
For my weekend I wonder if I'll be good to go after I got the tats or if I'd rather take it easy and lay low, watch some movies and shit.
Actually I had a pretty interesting and busy week and the next one will be sweet too so either way I think I'm just gonna chill. Perhaps smoke a
little JWHs.
 
^ I've got a three day weekend. How about you? Personally, I'm going to play some Counter-Strike, try and hone my web development skills, play some piano, and do a little more research on 2C-C-NBOMe -- I feel like the last time I took it, I ended up taking slightly too much and diminishing the potential of the trip by becoming slightly overwhelmed.
 
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