☮ Social ☮ PD Social: Cross-dimensional chatter. Now featuring mesphereomeantoliopeme.

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

i wish my favorite girl Crystal would see me more often
sup digs, on speed, talk to me.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

So I drove over to local uni area instead of walking, had half a pint of vodka in soda and tried out new pipe tobacco (which was amazingly delicious, having quality tobacco at the proper humidity...not since 2008 before I moved back to CA have I known such a taste). Turns out when I walked to their library at 5:40 I read their hours and see they close at 6 on Saturdays (I planned on staying past 8 reading). Only one thing to do...

Reasons not to DUI:
~Spend 40 min on 4 min drive home vainly searching for ever travelling tweaker van
~Go to 99c store with 30c, steal shit (how pathetic can you get?)
~I'll be damned but it's fun to drive like that, and listen to musics

PS went for 360mg DXM to confirm my technique for keeping it down (soy milk plus tortilla chips as chaser, helps get the taste away ASAP and restrict stomach violence), I had barely any nausea, but I'm not feeling dissociated at all either. Fuck dissociatives man, even better ones than this that I've had could get kind of inconsistent (or at least, it gets to the point I have to take high doses to feel any dissociation and before that it's just physical side effects). Well there's still a definite mood lift and increase in music appreciation (and I have the shits) so it still works to an extent, haha.

 

[pharmakos]

MXE is hit or miss sometimes but at least it doesn't produce nausea like DXM

even powder DXM produces nausea, though syrup does it worse of course

the best way to help your stomach handle dxm though, powder or syrup, is to space your dose out over a half hour to an hour

if you're taking robogels my friends and i say the best way to do it is to take 5gels every 5 minutes

not only does it reduce nausea, but it also alters the DXM/DXO ratio to make the trip more pleasant imo

 

[OrneTTe]

I haven't tried DXM in probably almost 8 years or so. I always thought it was interesting but the nausea always got to me. MXE can kind of be hit or miss for me but ketamine is fairly consistent for me when not dealing with an increase in tolerance.

 

[pharmakos]

the main reason i prefer DXM is the afterglow

DXM's antidepressant effects last way longer with a single dose in my experience

also, if i'm looking for a low dose dissociative buzz i prefer DXM. MXE is for my high dose experiments now.

combined MXE and DXM once.... 300mg DXM and 100mg MXE. i have a hell of a tolerance, but it was pretty great. next time i get some MXE i am going to pursue this combo further. physically i was not very impaired, but the closed eye visuals were GREATLY enhanced over a similar dose of either drug alone.

reminded me of the CEVs i get from 1g+ of DXM. but i was lucid. was sweet.

 

[OrneTTe]

I never usually noticed an afterglow from DXM from what I remember but like I said, that was a long time ago. MXE gives me a great afterglow the next day and an overall sunnier disposition for a few. I find the best dissociate experiences come at the tale end of a traditional psychedelic or MDMA for me. Seems to be a much more useful and workable headspace than pure dissociation.

 

[pharmakos]

i believe that dosing a dissociative after a psychedelic or empathogen can be counterproductive. i often feel like i make a lot of progress and gain a lot of insight from my trip/roll, but then the dissociative experience afterwards makes me forget it.

but then again that can maybe make tripping seem just as new the next time as it did the first time (if that makes sense i said it weird) lol =p

how do you usually spend your trips? mindspace alters physical space. i notice a bigger DXM afterglow if i spend most of the trip (hours at a time) in meditation... sometimes with sometimes without music.

btw, while coming out of a dissociative state is my favorite time to dose a psychedelic. the lessons of the psychedelics seem that much more readily available to me when i am more of a tabula rasa.

some of my most meaningful psychedelic trips have been on the day after a 3rd or 4th plateau DXM dose. snapping out of the emotionless dissociative state while tripping can bring me to tears when i see how beautiful the world is

 

[OrneTTe]

Some forgetfulnees after a trip is fine with me nowadays. I have leaned what I need to know, that I can never truly know or learn the true nature of reality. Trips are all about living in the moment for me any more. Not that I don't spend much of the time reflecting. I just don't think there is any specifics of a trip that I need to incorporate any more, just overarching ideas and perspective.

I usually trip by myself with music playing or at concerts and festivals.

 

[pharmakos]

not that i disagree with your overall post. you seem like you've figured out what works for you. however...

I can never truly know or learn the true nature of reality.

this is only *absolutely* true

you never will be able to learn everything

however, you can still learn a lot

ignorance is bliss, but enlightenment is too

 

[OrneTTe]

That is what I'm kind of saying with ketamine and mxe though. I don't learn much from them on their own. But when I use them on the tail end of a psychedelic the headspace is so lucid it is almost god like. It always reaffirms my belief that we create the reality we experience and everyones reality is different. We can a minor idea of what our reality is, let alone everyone's. This is an over reaching idea though. When I say I don't take specifics from my trips I mean just that. If I wasn't learning something from these substances I wouldn't be using them any more. They still have a lot to show me.

 

[pharmakos]

okay, so we crave the same headspace lol

i prefer for the dissociatives to wear off before the psychedelics. *shrugs*

 

[iamthetalker]

Doing a DMT extraction this weekend, cant wait to finally get back to that alien geometric energy field of pulsating light and emotions... or whatever

LOL. I love the way people describe the DMT space...all so different, yet each description accurate in its own way. I did my own extraction around a week ago, after several months away from the substance...I always forget how joyous it is, somehow. And there's nothing like sampling the fruits of your own labor.

i will say though, i am curious if turmeric potentates the stuff, and that ashwagandha in minimal amounts is your friend...if things get too wild.

I've tried turmeric as an MAOI a few times in the past, and IME it is mild at best. I made a tincture once of powdered turmeric and oil (to extract the curcumin) and dosed sublingually/bucally, on a few separate occasions, and now matter how high I went (while still being able to hold the solution in my mouth) I never got more than a mild buzz. Tried taking piperine in combination to increase the uptake of curcumin, as well. DMT effects did not seem to be potentiated either in intensity or duration (which was my goal). I was on no medication or supplements at the time. I feel you'd have to take heroic doses of turmeric to get any real potentiation of PEA, or do a more serious extraction of the curcumin and some extensive trials.

 

[daysonatrain]

LOL. I love the way people describe the DMT space...all so different, yet each description accurate in its own way. I did my own extraction around a week ago, after several months away from the substance...I always forget how joyous it is, somehow. And there's nothing like sampling the fruits of your own labor.

There really is no way to accurately describe any psychedelic but DMT takes the cake in "at a loss for words" imo.

Took 2C-E last night. I find the chemical very interesting but so emotionless. It really helps me analyze my life but it is so dry and distant. I still enjoy it though, it seems to have very specific uses and benefits.

I have been realizing that psychs dont really teach me that much anymore, and I wonder if the stress on the body and mind (going so far out and coming back) is really worth it. I still love 'em but not in the same way as I used too, anyone else feel this way?

 

[yucatanboy2]

Watched the superbowl, drank some beers and now took a low dose mxe and drinking some more. Damn I wish I had some weed. Been a while since I smoked. I should try to get a green card.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Watched the superbowl, drank some beers and now took a low dose mxe and drinking some more. Damn I wish I had some weed. Been a while since I smoked. I should try to get a green card.

Sounds like a good day, aside from the watching the superbowl part. I had some of that fractal broccoli/cauliflower stuff (fun to look at and eat) with some sweet potato and mahi mahi. 'twas delicious. Also spent the late morning/early afternoon lazily reading the paper, as I am wont to do on Sundays.

Got me some new bourbon, in spite of the fact that whiskey has tasted horrible to me throughout december and january for some unknown reason. Maybe it has fixed itself, like my computer...we shall see in a bit!

Edit: Whiskey tastes good again, hallelujah!

 

[pharmakos]

I have been realizing that psychs dont really teach me that much anymore, and I wonder if the stress on the body and mind (going so far out and coming back) is really worth it. I still love 'em but not in the same way as I used too, anyone else feel this way?

psychedelics just amplify knowledge you already had

read a book. watch a documentary. hell just have a good conversation about something you don't know.

you're supposed to LEARN and THEN trip

tripping makes it harder to learn new information, but easier to recall old information

i THINK anyway i don't get too into studies on rat brains

 

[yucatanboy2]

Drinking wine, taking mxe and watching portlandia.... and interesting evening

Rock on PD.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

I'm jealous of your dissociation (getting a bit enthralled again after that DXM last night had me lying in bed for hours with a smile on my face, with many beautiful thoughts). Though I understand now that it is a trap.

Whiskey and Handel make for a decent evening though, fo sho. Maybe I'll go outside and enjoy some of those wonderful pipe tobaccos (got 1oz each of different ones, a medium one and one more robust in flavor) I picked up whilst in SD at a tobacconist I know of there.

 

[Chemical Wizard]

a couple weeks ago me and my girlfriend went through about 4 grams of ketamine in one week. We only used it at night and would watch space documentaries, and Nassim Haramein talk about physics on you tube...We also watched some Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job! which was really really weird, but awesome. I really enjoy the state you get in from continually redosing with rather large doses. I find after a while the psychedelic aspect of ketamine becomes very very pronounced. What a great drug.

 

[pharmakos]

imo dissociatives and psychs do the same thing

but dissociatives do it by subtracting
and psychs do it by adding

going either way is just fine so long as you're something

but what if you accidentally end up as nothing?

then you can only psychedelicize not dissociate XD