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☮ Social ☮ PD Social: Cross-dimensional chatter. Now featuring mesphereomeantoliopeme.

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MXE.

I don't really do drugs anymore (caveat: I'm prescribed a trifecta of amphetamines, opioids, and benzodiazepines. May play into why I don't feel the need to, uh, "do drugs" anymore. LOL.) but methoxetamine is one I'm awfully tempted to try before it becomes illegal.

But then again, ketamine wasn't always my friend.

What crazy things have been happening in the drug scene lately. i'm working on a big project about "bath salts" for the as-yet-unlaunched v2 of esotericPharma. Bad stuff.
 
Dondante said:
TAC, one more piece of advice ...

Those are exactly the kind of issues that Cognitive Behavioral Therapy was designed to deal with, group or individual therapy. Sure, those thoughts are not reality-based, but such thinking is not indicative of schizophrenia...they're called cognitive distortions and they're probably much more common than you think. Give some thought to trying out therapy. It may seem like a big investment (compared to popping a benzo), but a lot of people find it really helpful...and it won't lead to bigger problems down the road. Also, it's probably not a bad idea to cut down on/avoid cannabis as it can contribute subtle paranoid thinking.

p.s. Those thoughts are not "delusions" since you realize that they are false interpretations.
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Thanks. :) Actually a few months ago I was seeing a therapist (unsure whether or not he was practicing true Cognitive Behavioral Therapy), but I just didn't feel that we were getting anywhere, so I'm not seeing him anymore. He was a really nice guy, and a lot of fun to talk to, though. :P

RhythmSpring said:
If I may butt in. I know this is "just another drug," but I have to say, as a fellow sufferer of social anxiety, I notice that it falls away significantly in the aftermath of Salvia trips. No surge of confidence, no nothing extra in my brain, no positive thoughts. Just stillness and awareness. I flinch, physically and mentally significantly less after Salvia. I often get insights during Salvia that show me where I'm wrong in interpreting my reality, whether it's other people's motives, my image, or my own motives. I learn.

Sure, it could be another crutch. But it's not benzos. And arguably, you learn more and more about yourself if you do it right. I consider Salvia a potent ally. Often misunderstood and misused, but valuable when treated right.
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I've always been far too timid to try smoking salvia, but I have been intensely curious about the buccal "quid" method. Actually it's too bad I didn't think of salvia before I placed my recent order from an ethnobotanical vendor. :| Oh well. I've already probably spent too much money on psychoactives as of late.

Jesusgreen said:
Wow, the "M hole" is an incredible place.
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Becoming increasingly impatient for my sample of MXE to arrive. :! ;)
 
Salvia is rough but incomparably interesting.

Pure mescaline is such a beautiful substance. Unlike any other really. Smooth, like psychedelic honey and deep like the ocean. Sitting here with my guitar, some wine and some hash oil. Lovely :)
 
Salvia is too weird for me.

Mescaline is incredible. Agreed that it is unlike anything else. What it is doing is psychedelic no doubt but barely a "trip," it is this incredible sense of warmth & comfort, and the aesthetics of it are unparalleled.

Had a breathtaking mescaline experience with my lady a few months back, my last psychedelic experience probably for some time. Just not feeling it. But mescaline is something special. I can feel that.
 
I find it odd that I haven't heard much mention of synthetic mescaline analogues. Of course, there is the 2C class of phenethylamines, but these don't seem nearly as comparable to mescaline itself as, say, 4-AcO-DMT is to psilocin or psilocybin.

Have we done any significant research on chemicals that bear a high resemblance to mescaline itself?
 
Also, I think that in the future, psychedelics will be something different entirely. They won't be simple, crude molecular structures. They will be programs installed on nanobots that will enter your bloodstream, cross the blood-brain barrier, and interact with your neurons. These microscopic machines will be programmed with algorithms that will translate into sequences of neural impulses.

We could start by emulating serotonergic psychedelics. Just program the nanobots to unconditionally agonize the 5HT2A receptor subtype. But that would only be the starting point. You could then make the action of the nanobots more selective and complex, and have them do things that ONLY a nanobot could do. They could create neurological activity that a simple tryptamine or phenethylamine could never hope to achieve. You could have them communicate and interact with each other from different regions of the brain, or attempt to create novel states of consciousness facilitated by harmonious synergy between activity in multiple receptor subtypes. You could have them catalyze neural impulses based on mathematical algorithms.

You could program their action on the brain to be a function of time, creating rhythmic or pulsating stimulation of the brian. This could be used for experimentation with much more powerful psychedelic states over a long period of time. Short breaks between undulations of powerful psychedelia would prevent anything from becoming too overwhelming, but could go on indefinitely until the tripper chose to terminate the nanobot program. Or, you could experiment with high-frequency pulsating stimulation, so that the actual waves of undulating receptor agonism would be totally imperceptible, but would blur into a continuous totally unique altered state of consciousness.

The possibilities would be endless. And obviously the application of these nanobots would go far beyond just getting high, but of course that's what I'm most interested in. :P
 
Jesusgreen said:
Wow, the "M hole" is an incredible place. It feels a bit like how discovering the K hole with Ketamine felt now, like if I had been crawling all along and I finally learnt how to walk. (Or, more appropriately, walking all along and finally learnt how to fly ;) )

Very vivid audio and visual hallucinations. Seemed to last forever. There was a loud buzzing noise similar to extremely high doses of psychedelics and I remember whenever the buzzing got more intense I'd be propelled into an alternate reality, exploring at my own will.

What was crazy though was I was still able to do things during this - I could type on my phone, I could go to the toilet, I was completely capable of normal actions. I'm not sure how, given my vision was so blurry I couldnt even *see* my phone screen etc, but wow.. I watched the intro to Koyaanisqatsi during one of the waves that brought me into the hole and it was utterly amazing.. shame I didn't want to turn my PC back on as I have the whole film, unwatched, on there. I know what I'm doing next time I hole for sure though! :D

Today I feel an amazing afterglow, much more of a true afterglow, ala Ketamine, than the left over stimulation that lower doses left me with. :)

The one problem is I'm missing so many chunks of last night's experience, including my dosages and how many redoses I took. I can't remember how much I had left in the bag prior to the experience so I can't work it out from the current wait, but I can guess that I probably took upwards of 60mg, maybe 70, 80, or even higher. Next time I'll try and write it down though, as I wasn't expecting to forget, and that really damages the potential for a decent trip report.



Especially with drugs hah. I passed out somewhere between 10am and midday last night, I can't remember since most of it is a blur. (Probably a result of adding alcohol) Just woke up and it's 7:45pm..
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Sir, I would like to vigorously contest your definition of a hole. I'd like to call it criminally vague, though I have an idea of the state of mind you're getting at in your definition, but I'd just call that a sub-hole high dose experience (i.e. being really high). I believe we should define a hole as the COMPLETE disconnection from all sensory input/body functions, I mean, that's what is special about dissociatives, isn't it?


TAC, I'd like to be a naysayer and say nay to your predictions, to me they sound like those of retro-futurism. Partially related, a parody of that old thought line (I love this vid) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJjUVIIYptE
 
TheAppleCore said:
I find it odd that I haven't heard much mention of synthetic mescaline analogues. Of course, there is the 2C class of phenethylamines, but these don't seem nearly as comparable to mescaline itself as, say, 4-AcO-DMT is to psilocin or psilocybin.

Have we done any significant research on chemicals that bear a high resemblance to mescaline itself?
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The TMA series are more closely related to mescaline then 2C-x (I think). Also escaline, proscaline, isoproscaline etc. I've had proscaline and TMA 6 (I think) but can't remember much. (I think)

Nice nanobot theory. Molecules and transporters may already be robots, just like mitochondria ;)
 
TMA series=Trimethoxyamphetamines
2Cx= Dimethoxyphens
Mesc is trimethoxyphen with teh methoxys on 3 specific positions i think...
so i'd say TMA is closer to mesc than 2Cx, but i'm not a chemist.
 
did anyone here hear of the stanford experiment + how do you think you would have reacted to it as a child, given reflection on your own life ??? i think i would've eaten the marshmallow early but i'd have somewhat waited
 
just watching a show on the discovery channel: curiosity - how drugs work....
am actually a bit dissapointed, was hoping for a bit more objectivity from the show... oh well, one can only dream
 
^ Ha, watched it myself with a roommate. I mentioned that the flaw in shows like this is they only look at years and years of constant, heavy doses. He said that was the nature of the drug though. I said people can take drugs on a sporadic basis, but he didn't get it.

Pop culture drug information continues to be grossly distorted; I don't know if we'll ever see the end of it.
 
So for New Years in England, I have the following lined up so far (my half, the friend I'm staying with has the same amount of each, except more MXE since he has a ton already.):
- 250mg 6-APB
- 125mg aMT
- 500mg MXE
- 0.5g of a legal blend which is an AM-694 + AM-2201 mix
And probably:
- 1.75g of dank bud :D
- 100mg of DMT
- Lots of beer and whiskey.

(Not all in one night of course though.)

My excitement just doubled :)
 
PepperSocks said:
Pop culture drug information continues to be grossly distorted; I don't know if we'll ever see the end of it.
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agreed

on another note, how do I educate my parents on psychadelics/bluelight and harm reduction? I'm so sick if their ignorance. Tonight, I mentioned something about mushrooms and evolution and when my mom told me to never do mushrooms and how bad they are, I asked her "what do you even know about shrooms?" and she couldn't tell me anything at all. Her response was, "I just don't want you to do drugs, they're bad ok?" I feel like even if I tell her how responsible I am and how going on bluelight and learning about harm reduction is so important that she will still automatically write it off drug induced delusions or something. "drugs" ( i hate using such a broad term) wouldn't be so much of a problem if everyone was properly educated. For example, every possible "danger" of mushroom use could be solved with proper education. I'm not really sure where I was going with this but fuck it's frustrating that nobody I know in real life even knows anything at all about drugs. Today I was talking to my sister about MDMA and she argued with me for 10 minutes that "molly is different than e pills and molly is PURE e", i can't help but think that there are other people out there that believe information like that and as a result, consume "molly" that they are certain is 100% pure when in reality it is something dangerous. Just a little drug education could help the world so much...
 
^Sadly, defeating ignorance and creating understanding between people, even those closest to you, can be impossible. Reminds me of Luke 12:51-53,
"Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division.
From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.
They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."


Sounds like a good time is coming Jesus (lol, talking to you after quoting your namesake), but you don't have to rub it in!:| Some of us have nothing lined up, we're just making all our nowhere plans for nobody, as usual.
 
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