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PCP (what does it look like) Technical question

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PCP with formeldahyde (embalming fluid) is only a myth or an action performed by stupid dealers. PCP should never have any formeldahyde. It isn't healthy, it doesn't enhance the drug, and it does nothing for the stability of the liquid PCP.

swybs
 
also, to the original poster, just buy some. Unless you are trying to make a knockoff fake imitation, you shouldnt be this concerned. Buy a small amount, sample it, and if desireable, buy more, repeat, repeat, repeat, run around and say random statements, sit in a slump, repeat, walk as though you are at 0 gravity, repeat.
swybs
 
Yes, PCP shouldnt have formeldahyde, but ALOT of samples of "wet", show presence of formedahyde. No, PCP is not formeldahyde, but PCP is VERY soluble in formeldahyde, and people DO use formeldahyde as a carrying agent (as well as ether and benzene) for "wet" PCP. Yes, it has some mythological associations with being a psychoactive itself (which, in a twisted way, it can be psychoactive, but not in the way people mistakenly think it is, it may get you high because formeldahyde decomposes-->acetylaldyhyde + dopamine--> tetrahydroisoquinoline/aka THIQ and opiate agonist ), and this thinking leads to the use of formeldahyde as a carrier of PCP, and formeldahyde doesnt have the downside of ether as a carrier agent in that it is not flammable. But in anycase, PCP has been consistently found to be in PCP samples, just go to the DEA website and they show some samples. Again, PCP is very soluble in formeldahyde, and it has mythological psychoactive properties, along with the upside of it being non-flammable. But, yes it is stupid to use formeldahyde as a carrier agent for PCP due to its carcinogenic properties, but solvents such as benzene arent a whole lot better (which has also been found to be a carrier for PCP). Lab grade diethyl-ether is the best to use aside the flammability issue, and that is what makes the "sweet" smell often associated with PCP.

If you are asking these question and are trying to make a fake PCP i will close this.
 
if you aren't actually looking to produce fake PCP, which is one of the crazier things I would think someone would try to do (but you never know, crazy teeneboppers frequent BL on weekends), go to this site
under Dea's programs' Web site (pictures included of liquid and other forms) (note, no link, but you should figure out to find it):
forensicsci/microgram/mg0803/mg0803.html
 
Ok my second question is, some people say that the liquid is called "Oil" sometimes. Does liquid PCP resemble motor oil or water as far as consistency??

What about color? I heard from some sites that its a yellow liquid or oil.

And does PCP tend to absorb throught the skin like LSD does?

Thanks for the info though.
 
I know I went there. And its kinda confusing. Because theres all kinda catagories to look at. Just please tell me where within that site to go please.
 
Actually...

Up until about 84 the most common form was powder.It was real big in the urban areas of the NorthEast [U.S.] where everyone used to swear up and down that it was "T.H.C. Powder."Yeah,right...Anyway...it was white to off white and rarely it was pressed into pills [which used to be vey common in the late 60s and early 70s].We used to sniff it,smoke it,and drop it orally.It used to go for 20 dollars a "spoon" or a dime which consisted of 4 to 6 "one and ones."

Then after 84 it all changed.Just liquid by itself or on an inert carrier [usually mint leaves but sometimes parsley].on a carrier it used to be sold by the bag for 8 dollars a bag or a bundle of 10 bags for 60 dollars.The street trade was centered in Harlem,especially in the Hamilton Heights section on one specific block.Most of the bags were tiny manilla envelopes,the sort that used to hold nickles or treys of marijuana.With bags of dust the distributors would stamp the bags with a brand name,usually a single word [unlike heroin brands].one noted exception was "Crazy Eddie" brand in E.Harlem which was "owned" by a heroin distributor who bagged his in ornately stamped glassines [like heroin and cocaine].

For liquid,you could buy it in 1/4 oz.,1/2 oz.,1 0z., or larger quantities.It would come in glass cocaine vials for the smaller increments.At the time you could buy an unadulterated ounce for 175 dollars in Harlem.

Almost all PCP [and analouges] in the U.S.A. is manufactured on the WestCoast in L.A. County.A unique aspect of its manufacture is that almost all "labs" are ran by American blacks as opposed to almost all other labs which are ran by whites [although Mexicans are moving in on meth.].Lately though labs have been getting popped on the EastCoast also,with a large one getting bagged outside of Baltimore.

It does smell like bug spray which is understandable if you consider the toxic precursors.When it is on a plant based carrier the smell combines with the odor of the carrier.In my mind I usually visualise it as a chemical smell with mint overtones.

The liquid is viscuous so yes,it does resemble a yellow oil.to convert it to powder it is simply gassed [like most other substances].Nobody takes the time or trouble nowadays so almost all "pure" dust is in liquid form.
 
off topic, but on topic, but off, oh the days

damn, rach, your posts always bringing back my memories...I remember crazy eddie....do you remember "two guys" that came out around 89--banging shit, absolute justice to the deterioration of the mind.

Funny that you say spoons...i remember more than one time, down in Hell Park (named by locals, not real name) when people would patch in money to buy bundles. One time in particular--around 1989/90, everyone was anxious and waiting for a dealer to roll down. There must have been 30 heads waiting at different spots in what is a small park (the park occupies the end corner of a park and has a small pool, handball courts, and some paths).

Anyway, we had smoked the last bag we had (hell park wasn't only a spot to cop or to organize to cop [finding a ride] but was also a smokeout joint for dust). All of the sudden, a large black sedan pulls up: out rolls four of the most Hollywoodesque gangsters, all dressed in black, black caps, black jackets, black gloves. The one guy yells "fresh diesel" and everyone forms a line...keep in mind, one of the gangsters pulls an uzi out from under his jacket. We wait in line and the guy is scooping it out of a huge cup (this was spear-mix, which was prevalent during my dust days [87-91]).

The 3 friends I am with are 3rd or so in line and get our dust. The dust is scooped with a tablespoon into whatever we hold up--I held up a potato chip wrapper. We pack our individuals bowls and light up. As this is happening, I see a guy fall down, and looked like he ODd on some dope. I was not waiting to sit around, since this park had sweeps often, but my legs were dust astronauted, so I collected my friends (another 10 minutes just to convince them to leave), all while I am taking hits from my bowl.

As we start toward the exit and toward the car, a white guy goes up to my friend and says "what the fuck". Of course, my friend can't even answer. The guy punches him in the face twice, and before you know it, one of the gangster backup dealers throws the white guy who hit my friend against a car (the cars are parked right on the street, if you know the park). Car alarm starts blasting, and the guy who shoved him to the car pulls out another Uzi and says "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU FUCKING WITH OUR BUSINESS FOR? GO BACK TO JERSEY, FUCKIN DUST HEADS".

I grab my friend who just got hit, and we run/walk to the car. As we are walking, slow motion, I try to break the metal pipe, and say, I AM DONE WITH THIS SHIT. Of course, I couldn't break the pipe, and I simply manage to cut my entire hand up. My other friend is like, can I buy your tablespoon (the dust denominator that I had), I was like "fuck that, after this situation I need to smoke this." Resolution completely failed.

And here is how crazy good dust it: we drove three blocks and realized we wanted retribution. How could those fucks punk my friend. We were going to go back--fortunately, we got lost, and ended up going back out the holland tunnel. But yea, dust dreams, dust nightmares. Thanks for the memories with that post, rach.
 
Swybs...

"Two Guys?"No.In 89 I was doing 4 in Annandale [MYCF].I actually maxed on 34 months [88-91].I missed that one,was it also on E.103?

You mentioned "Hell Park" before...Its not the park on 145?I think you said that it was on the Lower East Side but the park on 145 is the only one I can think of that matches that description...
 
I hear people refer to the high/trip as "lunchin" or "lungin". I think it was lunching. The reason I'm not sure was because the guy who I talked to most about this stuff was some black guy who did boat all the time for a year and he had a slight speech impediment. It was like both his lips had a mind of their own when he talked and they just moved in all which-a-ways when he talked.

"..and I be lunchin yo".

He said that alot.
 
Very cool website, thanks. swbys. Very one last question though is consistancy. Which that website did not really explain.

Is the liquid like oil or is it like ether when you put a drop on a table and it quickly evaporates (like gasoline too), or is it like an oil??? If its an Oil. Which it is most likely, I want to know or I wish to know, the viscousness of the oil or whats it compared to. Is it compared to motor oil, glycerin? Or, is it compared to like some shampoos (Now thats really thick)???? In terms of thickness. I dont know what to call it, Im not a chemist.

And is it true that the odor could be smelled far away? Some say the its smell is very potent.

Just these questions and thats it. And im sorry for being too technical here. I dont know, its weird, I always wanted to know that Phencyclidine looks like. Oh, and for those who are interested I got the chemical formula. I dont know if this is allowed or not but here it is: C17H25N
 
No, formeldahyde is not PCP, but PCP is VERY soluble in formeldahyde, and people DO use it as a carrier. Ether is a better choice, aside its flammabilty, but alot of people do have the misperception that formeldahyde is psychoactive (it will get you fucked up, but so will gasoline). So formeldahyde has been often found in samples of "wet" (usually with ether, which is why it may smell sweet), because formeldahyde is a good carrier of PCP, its not a fire hazard, and it has mythological pyschoactive properties. Just look at somes analysis of samples of "wet", and formeldahyde is often found present. I definately think peope should just use ether, but they simply think the formeldahyde makes it stronger.......

Fortunately, angel dust doent have any formeldahyde, and i prefer it. Alot of mexicans in this area make it (in the ghetto, that is), and you can smell them cooking it from far away. It really isnt that rare, all you have to do is find hardcore PCP users, and they will know where to find the dust.

I still dont understand why this guy wants to know all the physical properties of PCP, is it for self-verification, or is it for making fake wet.......
 
Yeah there has been far too much emphasis on cuts lately. To be honest all this talk on formaldehyde and ether I find quite revulsive. These chemicals really are quite hazardous. If anyone has some strong dope that they need to cut down for safety reasons please use a simple nontoxic white powder. Other 'agents can be used to maintain a pharmaceutical odour but some of the stuff that has been getting posted is starting to look downright irresponsible.
 
Is the liquid like oil or is it like ether when you put a drop on a table and it quickly evaporates (like gasoline too), or is it like an oil??? If its an Oil. Which it is most likely, I want to know or I wish to know, the viscousness of the oil or whats it compared to. Is it compared to motor oil, glycerin? Or, is it compared to like some shampoos (Now thats really thick)???? In terms of thickness. I dont know what to call it, Im not a chemist.


I am NOT trying to make fake PCP, OK. Thats lame and dumb in my opinion. Im just wanting to know the physical properties.
 
You sure do seem interested in this shit. And it has already been answered.
But lets see if this helps. No, it ain't as thick as motor oil. But it is a little thicker than water. At least in most cases. Think of water with sugar dissolved in it.
It is sort of like that. But, it is according to what it is suspended in. It is oily but, it ain't exactly an oil. 8(
 
This is an idotic question because it is dissolved in whatever one wants it to be dissolved in. Diisopropyl ether, everclear, acetone... whatever.
Also I dont think the concentration of the pcp is going to be very high, only 1% or there abouts. So I doubt viscosity is going to be a major factor. Also I have no experience with 'diesel' or 'angel dust', but common sense could answer these dispicable questions for you.
 
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