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PCP analogues

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robatussin

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Has anyone on this forum tried a pcp anologue knowingly(PCPy, PCE, PCT, etc)? I know that most likely any anologue you buy is probably just sold as PCP or "wet" or any of fthe other stupid slang names that confuse people. How do the effects differ from normal pcp? Are some more toxic than others? If this belongs in PD, please move it accordingly thanks
 
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i think i just smoked an unidentified analogue. it was sold as pcp, 15mg produce what seems like a pure dopamine agonism. no dissociation at all. not very pleasant if youre expecting a laid back dissociated time in bed. i could imagine partying on this stuff though... if anyone has the possibility to do NMR or GC/MS... well. whatever.

edit: i just tried to masturbate and right before orgasm my muscle tension increased to a million divided by zero. i started shaking tremendously and had to abort project: jackoff. when i started again a few mins later the same thing happened. and again. and again.
i also just talked to a friend on the phone and i noticed i am quite short breathed. bp and heart rate seem to be increased too, not uncomfortably though.
mmm what else, well. in the past hour, i went to pee like 5 times eventhough i havent had much water to drink, looks like this stuff is excreted by the kidneys (just my guess with limited knowledge of the human metabolism).

so lets see:
-hypertone muscles and stress induced tremors (clonus), lack of coordination, very evident when holding something or walking (ataxia?)
-hypertension (not measured)
-tachykardia (very obvious lol)
-tachypnea
-anorexia
-euphoria
-difficulty following my train of thought and expressing it verbally
-polyuria
-shaky voice
-no dissociation :(

ill add more when its easier to "follow my train of thought" again lol
btw there is some evidence that the material in question is 3-oh-pcp. my source suggested this, but i havent personally seen an analysis.

peace

edit2: fuck, i soooo wanted some pcp again. i was getting ready for a wicked time and now this. all i got is some shitty upper... :/
 
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you dont like pcp? lol whats wrong with you? its actually my absolute all time favourite drug.
 
No, and from the sound of home boy up there Im fucking glad sounds like a waiting to get sober more than falling off the face of the earth. Gettin dusted off an analogue? Some backwoods/innercity, Bathtub, embaliming fluid, spaceage nig rig technology?
 
Ya well, this analogue kinda sucked. But the last sentence doesn't make much sense. Cliché.
 
I have tried most, and have posted alot about it here years ago. Please use search. You might also realise, and indeed you probably do, that K is close enough, although not analog it is so structurally similar that for all intensive purposes should wear the name. Disassociates do not vary all that much in terms of psychoactivtity.
 
^^Are you kidding me??
There are many differences in the subjective effects of at least dxm, ketamine, and pcp (which are the ones I am sure I have had). How could you even try to say that ketamine is really like pcp or dxm?? Or vice versa?
 
^ I wholeheartedly agree. I absolutely LOVE ketamine, my favorite psych of all time. DXM, while some of the higher plateaus can have some k-like effects, doesn't feel anything like ketamine at all, it just feels dirty to me compared to K. DXM was fun while I was younger, and I tried it a few more times this year, and it just isn't my cup of tea. Ketamine, on the other hand, will never fall out of style for me. Personally, the two feel nothing alike, some effects could be called similar, but the two feel nothing alike. Haven't tried PCP, so I can't comment on that.

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Disassociates do not vary all that much in terms of psychoactivtity.
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While they may resemble each other alot in structure and receptor site affinity, the subjective effects can vary widely, as egor has stated.
 
I offer this based on both clinical AND subjective evidence and if you at least rely on clinical you will have no choice but to agree. Subjectively of course you can offer whatever your choose but it is of little value in of itself. DXM? Everyone and their bro raves about it and yet of all Disassociatives it is the only one without control (outside of heavily adulterated form albeit). Try buying some Robitussin PCE.

Look, take K. Its "singular" experience is completely related to a specific dose, and usually to manipulated experiential conditions, salt water immersion, blah,blah. Taken in equigesic dosages and in equigesic experiential paramaters and you will eb a bit suprised...

Finally, if you are buying DXM off of a Research site (relying on usually spurious claims of 99 plus purity), or netting it from Gradnma's cough meds, you will have a very difficult time obtaining clinically reliable dosages, you think? Same when buying a dime of mint leaves in Harlem or Camden.
 
"Subjective effects..." Please review the definition of SUBJECTIVE. AGAIN, when combined with CLINICAL data it is highly valuable. On its own it is near worthless.

As for Virtuoso, perhaps you never read me correctly in the first place. I put it straight, regardless of reaction. I hope it should it would be about accuracy, not ribbons and icecream. Try this, gather up a modest collection of Dissaociative data, say spend even a tiny amount like 1 hour,and see what discernible differences you gather. Length of effect and/or onset is not pertinent, nor is physical form or mode of admission,etc.

It is like this, aside from Bupe and Methadone, tell me one opiate/opioid that offers singular experiences. Classification is not always here all end all but in the case of Dissacoiatives, just like with opiate/opioid, it is pretty telling.
 
Zagenth, while this piece of advice from me is totally subjective, you might pay a bit to it, NEVER predict future outcomes with psychoactive substances. For example, you can take codeine for 40 years, wake up to 300 mgs. and proceed directly into near-fatal shock... Past results do not indicate anything but past results. With Disassociatives per se, I had many great times until the last time when I was near paralysed (due to the vagaries of illicit preps and the total inability of anyone or anything to accurately discern them). Somehow, one of my favorite psychoactives suddenly became nearly uselss to me. Aside from the IDF giving me K for a year or so afterwards, I never used them again. To each their own.
 
rachamim said:
I have tried most, and have posted alot about it here years ago. Please use search. You might also realise, and indeed you probably do, that K is close enough, although not analog it is so structurally similar that for all intensive purposes should wear the name. Disassociates do not vary all that much in terms of psychoactivtity.
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I did use search and couldn't find a single experience report about any pcp analogues. Could you please supply a link or two? It'd belong in thsi thread anyway. Thanks.
 
I do not post experience reports, nor does anyone in BL that I know of, outside of Journals,etc. I did post however, at length many times, in threads that must be archived. Not to be a drip on it but please ask mods for ideas on how to access it. It was , last post I imagine, 2003 perhaps. I have usually used a variation of my real name, which I now use point blank. Rahcamim Ben Ami. You might however try to keywords PCP, Designer Drugs, Analogs, Analogs (analog is the non-standardised transliteration of the word,etc.) of PCP, as well as individual analog names, both slang and in correct format.

There was a time here when we had a lot of BLers who liked Disassociatives a whole lot, and then again when the Research fad kicked into gear, etc.

For brevity, aside from meaningless differences like shape and availibilty, only length and onset were highly variable. I think that biggest differences I found were among dissimilar forms of the same product! For example, crystal PCP in insufflation was highly different than smoking spray on inert veggie matter. So that should offer a glimpse of how mundane I found it all.
 
I see by that ID date that you must have been here for some of them. You remember that kid with gloasses from Arizona who used to be a regular here? He was in just about everyone fo those threads as wll , he had a name built around K, so you might try this lead as well.
 
Well, Ketamine and DXM are not pcp analogues. ;) Also a lot of pcp analogues are not even dissociatives it seems. I think we are talking about two different things here.
 
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