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7-OH+PI 20mg had my friend nodding out who doesn't take opioids much. Opioid tolerant folks really don't get much off of 7-OH+PI. It stops the yawning and eyes watering and sneezing though but as far as a euphoric experience... not happening over here. For me 160mg lasts 2-3hrs and it is gone.
 
If you're not someone who is going to binge out on opioids and cause yourself a problem, they're not a bad thing to have around for emergency use (pain, cough etc). They're pretty strong as far as legal things go, they definite have the potency of hydrocodone, but they're shorter acting. (2-3 hours vs. 4-6 hours).
Nah, I'm stable on kratom leaf and kicked bupre about three years ago at my wife's behest. Was never getting it legally, just knew a dope addict who preferred dope to bupre so we made trades.

Anything strong I keep for pain management when say, given tramadol for a surgery, or I use it once in a blue moon during a psych comedown because ain't nothing like nodding off at the end of an acid trip :)
 
Nah, I'm stable on kratom leaf and kicked bupre about three years ago at my wife's behest. Was never getting it legally, just knew a dope addict who preferred dope to bupre so we made trades.

Anything strong I keep for pain management when say, given tramadol for a surgery, or I use it once in a blue moon during a psych comedown because ain't nothing like nodding off at the end of an acid trip :)
Only true opioid I've had in the last 15 years was Tussionex (hydrocodone cough syrup) when I got covid. I talked to my doctor and was really hacking and knew that having an opioid cough syrup would be helpful. It was empowering to be able to take something that I'd struggled with and which had destroyed my life, and to be able to use it responsibly. Made me feel proud of myself.

I actually have poppies growing now - one of these nights I'm going to harvest some and make some poppy tea with them.
 
Is it really that strong? A coworker got hooked on it, we're allowed to use kratom at work of all things (gotta love loopholes), and he offered me half a tablet once but I passed, not wanting get actuallyu 'high' at work seeing as a teaspoon every few hours of white maeng da does me right for motivation and knee pain. One of my other coworkers tried a tab who has a higher kratom tolerance too and he damn near nodded out (not safe at my job lol) so I always passed. Then I watched that original coworker kick 7-OH tablets and he seemed to be going through pretty strong WDs.
It's worth stockpiling the pure concentrate in crystal form imo, the tablets are insanely marked up, and the pure extract can be vaporized/smoked, drank in solution like tincture or lean, or eaten in gel caps or gel tabs. It's significantly poorer per dose than O-DSMT or buprenorphine. I got a gram of 63% 7-OH crystal (it's usually ~60-90%, remainder is other alkaloids) and managed to get through it in a 3 day non-stop binge with my fiance, but we're also just kind of hardheaded for the most part. After that, haven't touched it in a few months or so.

Most people who struggle with opioid addiction will agree with me that 7-OH is probably on par with oxycodone or hydromorphone in terms of potency, but it lasts maybe 4 hours, and has a habit of getting your average joe wicked hooked. My fiance and I are both fortunate in that we don't really exhibit addictivity towards opioids in any context we've ever used them in. 7-OH Alongside soma is amazing, the fiance and I refer to it as "maxrelax".

Edit: Forgot to mention, taking 1-2g of straight leaf alongside 7-OH adds 2-4 hours of duration, Soma also adds that, so using straight leaf, 7-OH and soma all at the same time I've had periods of intoxication off a single dose of those three in conjunction last 10-12 hours easily.
 
It's worth stockpiling the pure concentrate in crystal form imo, the tablets are insanely marked up, and the pure extract can be vaporized/smoked, drank in solution like tincture or lean, or eaten in gel caps or gel tabs. It's significantly poorer per dose than O-DSMT or buprenorphine. I got a gram of 63% 7-OH crystal (it's usually ~60-90%, remainder is other alkaloids) and managed to get through it in a 3 day non-stop binge with my fiance, but we're also just kind of hardheaded for the most part. After that, haven't touched it in a few months or so.

Most people who struggle with opioid addiction will agree with me that 7-OH is probably on par with oxycodone or hydromorphone in terms of potency, but it lasts maybe 4 hours, and has a habit of getting your average joe wicked hooked. My fiance and I are both fortunate in that we don't really exhibit addictivity towards opioids in any context we've ever used them in. 7-OH Alongside soma is amazing, the fiance and I refer to it as "maxrelax".

Edit: Forgot to mention, taking 1-2g of straight leaf alongside 7-OH adds 2-4 hours of duration, Soma also adds that, so using straight leaf, 7-OH and soma all at the same time I've had periods of intoxication off a single dose of those three in conjunction last 10-12 hours easily.
Does pure 7 OH have the stimulanty feeling like Kratom

also the ceiling of Kratom?

Those were why I didn’t like Kratom compared to oxy and hydro etc
 
Does pure 7 OH have the stimulanty feeling like Kratom
If your dependent on Oxy and Codeine 7-OH is not going to do much for you. It would have to be your morning dose to get off E to really feel it. I took 160mg of 7-OH+PI today from Opia and I barely felt it. It seems the more I take 7-OH even if it 30 days apart it does less for me.
 
Does pure 7 OH have the stimulanty feeling like Kratom

also the ceiling of Kratom?

Those were why I didn’t like Kratom compared to oxy and hydro etc
I would call it less stimulating than oxycodone but around dilaudid in a way. Nod heavy but not sleepy if that makes sense. I have no clue what the ceiling of kratom is, tbh.
 
Kratom had a ceiling where you couldn’t take enough of it to get strong euphoria or nodding…you couldn’t get high past a certain point like with hydro and oxy.

I found regular Kratom to be waaaay more stimulating than oxy and I consider oxy the most stimulant real opiate
 
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