PA, Butler - 09.10.04 - 09.12.04 - Subzero Presents: A Tribute to 9/11! *REVIEW*

well...my girlie and I found out that we had been bumped from the lineup...after we drove about 7 hours to get there(car trouble + getting lost) AND after we had talked to Shannon on the phone hours earlier telling us to come on out....what the fuck??? And the whole contract thing, that's a whole other issue. Not trying to tell you how to do things Shannon, because after all, shit does happen...but a professional returns emails or at least tries to call their djs and let them know what's going on... Lack of communication....counterproductive. Also, if you have money for drugs, then you think you would have money to pay your djs... Didn't you give me a lecture on the evils of drugs at Curdstock? The venue was pimp though...too bad you can't just hire the ravers to come to the parties...but I suppose you wouldn't be able to pay them either.:p
 
i will refrain from a long post right now on my experience with this event until i have had time to relax and process, but i did want to apologize to anyone who came to this event to hear me play (all 3 of you i am sure).

i was never picked up from my hotel and was stranded there all weekend.

fun with hbo. not exactly the weekend i had planned...
 
DAMN GIRL!!!! THAT IS A TOTAL LACK OF RESPECT!!!
I HAD TO PICK UP EXODUS AND HELLSTORM @ ARIPORT MYSELF FRIDAY OR THEY WOULDNT HAVE MADE IT EITHER.
 
yeah this party was appropriately named.
an event in a big beautiful place with tons of potential came crashing down in a huge dissapointing pile of nothingness.
WTF happened here?
 
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All I can say right now is I am done with this scene. I am sorry to all the party kids and people involved. I've had enough and that is all I can say right now.
 
I don't have an opinion on this event because I was told that my services would not be needed as of a phone call at 7:30 am.

I was however just informed that several times organizers were suggesting I had just "not shown." I want to be emphatically clear that this is NOT what happened. I did not cancel. I did not blow it off. I was called by Shannon, who said there had been damage to the venue and that they were cutting about 50 percent of the lineup...including me. It was at this time that I made the initial post on this thread inquiring about the nature of the changes and cancellations that people needed to be informed of.

Anyone who has any question about the legitimacy of what happened can forward inquiries to DJLA who initially fielded that call and got me out of bed to tell me I wasn't playing.

In point of fact, Shannon apologized to me for cancelling and said she hoped that I "was not mad" and that it "wouldn't hurt out friendship."

Like I have said, I don't want to diss this event, because I was not there and I have no idea howit went down. But let there be no mistake, I would have been there. My bags are sitting in my studio still packed and waiting to get on the plane. If there was a problem, it most certainly was not on my end.
 
This misconstrued version of what happened has now gotten back to me from about 5 people that I personally know. I can only wonder how many people I will never have the opportunity to correct on this issue and how much business I have lost as a result of an outright untruth being passed around.
 
subzero Gheyness factor on a scale of 1 to 10.... survey says.....

11...

This is one event i am truely glad i didnt make the effort to go to... And Lady 4 Square... that is some BS...
 
my thoughts

Lessons to be learned by all, No?

I don’t mean this to attack THIS event specifically, as a matter of fact, I feel a little too old at this point to be attending “raves”, but based on what I have read (and things I have heard and personally seen with my own eyes) one thing is abundantly clear:

Event Planning is a business not to be put in the hands of those who have no idea what they are doing.

Listen, I am not dissing this event or it’s organizer(s) as I said. And, I have seen so many events lately crash and burn in similar fashion. These young so-called promoters tend to find out the hard way that it takes more than $$$ and lots of ‘friends’ to throw a successful event. I have attended events done right back east and in CA, and what you don’t realize is that these organizers, bookers, and promoters have business/marketing degrees, a good knowledge of the law, business planning know-how, advertising background and well-established and powerful connections that all play together to carry-out events that have been planned for months or even years.

I hope that the negative feedback on this and other events show these young kids throwing parties that you can not wake up, throw together 10-20 of your friends that DJ (many of which shouldn’t be playing in pubic, much less being asked to pay money to see them) and think that in a month you’ll have a successful, memorable event...

…And yes, I know the argument of giving someone a place to start DJing and so on, but do you want to charge people to see under-par DJ’s, or run a business to turn a profit. Okay, let’s say you’re the saint that truly doesn’t care about money. You’re only ‘about the music’. Well, then tell your guest that you have new, inexperienced, up-coming talent when you promote and let the guest decide. Now that I would honestly respect, and might even pay to see. But I don’t think ‘you’ exist and surely won’t risk your hard earned cash. Prove me wrong…

It’s REALLY time to wake up. And for the love of…whatever…If you’re throwing an event and you’re drunk or f**ked up in ANY manner, you’re an idiot and deserve what you get. Event Planning is a business and to succeed you have to be and act professional.

I know this sounds harsh and mean, but I swear it’s not meant to be. I don’t think these promoters are bad people, many of them are just inexperience and naïve. You are probably surrounded by smart, older people who would probably be willing to assist you. Talk to business owners, Event Planners, even Lawyers or older more established DJ’s who have been around a little longer and have seen the good and the bad. If you legitimize your event and make it look like more than a basement to ‘roll’ in they’ll talk to you.

That’s my two-bits. Take it as you will. I am sure many people will want to slam me (so be it), but I hope most of you will think about what I have said and redirect the scene. In closing, I want to reiterate that I am not directing this post at this specific event.

Best Wishes!!!!!
 
xbeatfreakx said:
All I can say right now is I am done with this scene. I am sorry to all the party kids and people involved. I've had enough and that is all I can say right now.

booooooofuuuuckinghoooooo
 
^ What are you talkin bout. I thought you were parteners or some shit. You were all up in mainly beats...what's up with that.
 
ogeretla said:
^ What are you talkin bout. I thought you were parteners or some shit. You were all up in mainly beats...what's up with that.

I told Shannon the same thing...She is an artist, not a promoter...It is events like his that make everyone more jaded and hurt the scene. If it were not for a few of us at Mainly Beats it would havbe been a cluster fuck as well. Shannon has good intentions, she just doesn't have the experience to be throwing partys yet. I learned for like 5 years, had someone show me the ropes, run thier events and shit, just to get it down before i stepped out on my own...now, the two events that i have thrown on my own, without any help from my partners have been awesome, everyone got paid, and the vibe was awesome! In fact take a look at these pics and that should tell u what my events are like... http://robtronix.com/ipw-web/gallery/FreakyFlow-Mc-Flipside

Peace
 
evo1892 said:
I told Shannon the same thing...She is an artist, not a promoter...It is events like his that make everyone more jaded and hurt the scene. If it were not for a few of us at Mainly Beats it would havbe been a cluster fuck as well. Shannon has good intentions, she just doesn't have the experience to be throwing partys yet.

Like I said, I am not judging Shannon or this event. I wasn't there. But, I think sometimes good people are just better as artists and this might be the case here. From what I saw she wanted this event to go off and it didn't. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt though. That's just me.

You know like they say: fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again!!!

Sorry for EVERYONE, including Shannon that had a tough weekend for whatever reason.

Let's try to look out for each other.:) Plur and shit.
 
Subzero didnt have the second room on Friday.
Told me to pay for my hotel for the night,
and Id play Saturday.

Showed up @ 8:30 pm the next night...
got word on my timeslot, then at 11:00...
(2 hours before my time)
I was told they had to bump me.

Stayed until checkout the next day @ 11am waiting for what was rightfully mine...had to hunt shannon down...
GOT THREATENED BY A PUNK ASS ROB RAGE<traitor>

"you got beef !!! Im Rob Rgae Bitch, I'll fuck you up"
this is all while Im telling his black ass to grow up...
He's 40........Im 20........and HE represents you and your company...sweet. Never got paid and had to hear a lame ass sob story from shannon as to why almost all of cbus <except robrage and his white man-slave>
got no money and no table time.

No call. No cash. No table time.
Not even an apology or Thank you for coming out and wasting my time getting watched by your lame security because I was "intimidating"....
So yeh, just letting you know my nights.
Fun times in Penn. yeh.....Fuck Greed.
 
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