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oxycontin confusion ( I'm an oxymoron )

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mygreenbic

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Ok i read many of the oc threads and i gotta say they confused t the hell out of me. I could never tell if people were talking about the name brands that are easy to break the time release, or the generic ones that gum up. Anyways, i just traded some o of my amphetamine salts 30mg irs for three 40mg oxycontin ( the generic ones with op on front.) I do tons of opiates with large sub breaks in between but i haven't had an oc since the green oc 80s back in the day. For the longest time i did heroin which in Pittsburgh is in stamp bags cut with fentanyl.. quit that and got on methadone for two years, quit that, got on bupe and since then have been chipping with fentanyl patches smoked and the occasional roxy 30s. But i never had these generic oxycontins. So i have a few questions. I heard that the generics are ruined if you do anything other than swallow then whole. So i was wondering
1 is that true?
2 if not what's the best way to take them to get a long high with a nice nod
3 if swallowed whole, i always wondered how much oxycodone is released an hour, and for how many hours ( uses an oc40 for an example)
4 i just took 90mg of instant release dl-amphetamine ir, will mixing that with the oxy be like a speed ball or will they cancel each other out.
5 to potentiate i have hydroxyzine hcl, diphenhydramine, gabapentin, omeprazole, mirtazapine, valium, and amphetamine. Will these be good to potentiate with and which ones.

If anyone can answer asap i would greatly appreciate it because I'm withdrawing from suboxone and I'm not trying to crap my pants. Ty
"The Oxymoron"
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Also, I'm not a freaking scientist that is going to use solvents and shit, should i chew and swallow, swallow whole, or crush into powder and swallow?
 
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1. It is impossible to answer this question. Some generics can only be swallowed. Others can be crushed, and then snorted or parachuted, etc. Depends on what drug you're talking about here. The "OC" old school ones can be crushed. Since you're in the USA, you're probably dealing with the newer "OP" formulation, which does indeed gel up.
2. If you're strictly talking about having the longest duration of a drug, oral and rectal are generally the best ROAs. Since you're talking about oxycodone (I think...) oral is the best route.
3. It varies from person to person to person. We can't give you an hour by hour timeline of how many mg will be released, etc. In theory, all other things being equal, it releases the 40mg oxycodone over 8-12 hours.
4. That's a lot of amphetamines. Do you have a tolerance to them? Mixing opiates and amphetamines is safe. And yes, it will give you a "speedball"-like effect. It is not a true "speedball", however.
5. Hydroxyzine, diphenhydramine, gabapentin and Valium (diazepam) are all effective potentiators of oxycodone. Don't take all of them though. Just take one potentiator and your opiate of choice.

I'm moving this over to Basic Drug Discussion.

HL --> BDD
 
Thanks for the info, they are they oxycontin generic 40mg op.on front 40 on back. With the amps, ya it was a little much based on the fact I'm chewing my lips off. Put i always tend to take it to the extreme when i do drugs. I don't know why I'm not dead yet. I've read around that if you try to break the time release, they are rendered useless. If i were to swallow three of these op40s, whole, would that be enough for someone who is not opiate naive to get high? I don't want to waste these and I'm withdrawing really hard i hope someone can tell me soon if i should swallow them whole or chew them up.
Ty :)
 
I would take them orally and whole if I were you. I know near nothing about prepping pharmaceuticals to IV, but I do know that oxycodone has a great oral BA, and carries no real rush when IV'd. I have wondered about the time release mechanisms about various extended-release drugs, too, and they vary from drug to drug. Frankly, I do not know much other than that ~ 40 mg oxycodone will be released over a period of roughly 12 hours. Your opiate history is extensive, and don't know where your current tolerance is at, so only you can know that, but you can potentiate it with another drug if you like. Since you recently took 90 mg amphetamines, I would not take any of the potentiators you mentioned as they may dull out the amphetamine high esp. the anti-histamines. I don't know if you have benzo tolerance, but a low dose of Valium would be fine to take it with if you have experience mixing benzos and opiates together, and know what you are doing. If you have no benzo tolerance, I would suggest just 5 mg Valium. This is not much, but enough to relax you a bit, and add to the relaxing effect of the oxycodone. Much more could be dangerous, but I would really stay away from a higher dose due to the fact that it could dull out your amphetamine high. In general, I would say the more sedating drugs should be taken first, then the more stimulating so that you can go from a relaxed state into an up, but relaxed state instead of having it bring you down.
 
Dammit alex000 i just wrote a gigantic reply to your post using my android and it disappeared. I wanted to thanks you for giving me the answer i wanted so bad, simple and to the point. No talk about acetone or hairdreyers, just a straight answer for a straight junkie (i know allot about neuropharmacology but for christs sakes you have to be a chemist to understand half of the posts on bl these days). Anyways i guess I'm going to take 50mg hydroxyzine hcl then swallow the three oxy whole. I'll save the valium for tonight because I'll probably be a little edgy by then from the speed. By the way sorry for these long posts, i can't help it, pharmaceutical grade amphetamine is some powerful stuff. Its better than most the rolls i have taken recently. Another question, does cyp3a4 metabolize oxycodone? If so would it be a good or bad idea to use a cyp3a4 inhibitor considering oxycodone in part is metabolized into oxymorphone. Ok time to take some pills and i really hope this isn't a waste.

Someone please answer this one question, if i chew 3 op oxy 40s will it be better or worse than swallowing all whole?
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I just broke a tooth biting one of those in half

What the fuck? I got high as fuck off of the oxy for like an hour, is out going to come on waves or something? I would have rather just kept my adds and taken one of these *snip* than those three crap OP oxy 40s. I would actually be feeling it still
 
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The extended release formulation does release is very slowly. Going by your other posts at this time, you're on a lot of other drugs and that may actually be why you're not feeling anything from the OxyContin.
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
The extended release formulation does release is very slowly. Going by your other posts at this time, you're on a lot of other drugs and that may actually be why you're not feeling anything from the OxyContin.
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Shit!! Since it supposedly releases over twelve hours and i took it at 7:30est (4.5 hours ago) it's now 11:55 est do you think it's possible when the speed wears down a little ill feel it again?
 
You can cut the pills into small pieces and swallow and the dose will be released considerably faster, within an hour or so. Needless to say, you have to be a little more careful doing that, it will be pretty close to instant release. I have found this to work through experience, with the 20 and 40 and 80 mg OxyContin OP, also, the pills with "OP" are not generic, they are actually the new formulation of name-brand OxyContin.
 
if you crush they will work much faster,of corse let me say i haven't messed woth oxy's in a few yrs,last time i saw they were football shape and you could'nt inject them anymore,but the old one that were round,yes crush and it would'nt be timed released anylonger,be careful,if you don't have a tolarance to opiates just one 80 crushed could kill you,
 
anthony1958 said:
if you crush they will work much faster,of corse let me say i haven't messed woth oxy's in a few yrs,last time i saw they were football shape and you could'nt inject them anymore,but the old one that were round,yes crush and it would'nt be timed released anylonger,be careful,if you don't have a tolarance to opiates just one 80 crushed could kill you,
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If you haven't messed with Oxy in a few years, you probably don't know that OxyContin was reformyulated a while back, it is now more crush resistant and gels up when wet, just filling you in, in case you missed that.
 
Just to clarify why mixing amphetamines with opiates isn't dangerous like mixing with cocaine; it's because amphetamines are easier on your cardiovascular system and the comedown is more gradual. =)
 
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