Oxycodone Withdrawals

[nznity]

I guess I didn't look like an addict when I got the oxys and the appts were pretty pricey. Many drs I went to see would not give me anything in the UK if you break a leg or are in a horrible car accident--paracetamol--that's it--its their version of tylenol.

That's the shit with american Dr's. They're drug dealers with degrees.

 

[juler]

I just see the degrees now.....Believe me most of the Drs in the Uk are the same.

 

[nznity]

I just see the degrees now.....Believe me most of the Drs in the Uk are the same.

My country is even worse. Literally all drugs are over the counter 4 me. I just called for a delivery of morphine pills.

 

[juler]

Hmmmm Lima Peru-----don't think my son would go though--I do fly free for life. I worked for United airlines and took an early out --part of the package.

 

[juler]

I think I'll need to get back on the oxys--now my son is so depressed that we haven't been able to get the things done we were going to this week, and he thinks its going to take longer (my w/ds) I can function fine on the oxys if that Dr will prescribe or I might try suboxone. I want his life to get better--mine will never. I am fine on the oxys, if I can only get them.

 

[blondin]

160mgs were purple I think.... when I had a habit ( heroin in the uk) i would sometimes take 300+ mg of oxy as i had a friend with a script tbh I found them underwhelming even though they were old school a d I use to snort or swallow crushed pills.

 

[Juniper Bruhmomentius]

If you go hard daily, you will literally get a real junkies tolerance + issues in a fucking year or even under. Also most people dont take the nod dose, but their "usual logical" dose.

You should get on high dose of methadone and focus on that. Literally no chance for you to get a gram of oxy a day. Unless cancer but I dont think so in this case. Heroin aint heroin anymore, best and the best chance is to get on methadone. Bupre aint shit.

 

[juler]

In my earlier posts, I mentioned I was on oxy for 10 yrs--legit pain issues though, but of course I went sky high in tolerance which few on here believe. I was living in the UK for 8 yrs and was able to see 5 drs -pharmacies don't share info. I really did get up to 20-24 60 mg oxycodone modified release---approx 1500 mgs daily of course I chewed them--a few years later--I ran out early and went into wds for 2 days until I got a refill. Then my son monitored them and had me down to 6 60's a day--I of course had a dr he didn't know about so it was more like 8-10 a day I've actually gone through at least 6 wds now--this one is the worst. I am not going to live in pain for the rest of my life-I don't know what to do. BTW this is day 7 of this wd--its not over by a long shot.

 

[Just a little pinprick]

In my earlier posts, I mentioned I was on oxy for 10 yrs--legit pain issues though, but of course I went sky high in tolerance which few on here believe. I was living in the UK for 8 yrs and was able to see 5 drs -pharmacies don't share info. I really did get up to 20-24 60 mg oxycodone modified release---approx 1500 mgs daily of course I chewed them--a few years later--I ran out early and went into wds for 2 days until I got a refill. Then my son monitored them and had me down to 6 60's a day--I of course had a dr he didn't know about so it was more like 8-10 a day I've actually gone through at least 6 wds now--this one is the worst. I am not going to live in pain for the rest of my life-I don't know what to do. BTW this is day 7 of this wd--its not over by a long shot.

No sympathy here, you knew what you were doin and knew the consequences so suck it up …

 

[juler]

Appreciate it---if you had had my life-you might think differently-don't judge sweetheart

 

[Just a little pinprick]

Appreciate it---if you had had my life-you might think differently-don't judge sweetheart

No judgement here , I was a junkie 3 decades and kicked in jail where all you got was a xtra roll of shit paper,be grateful you’re doing it on the street where you can at least soften the blow with some comfort meds…

 

[juler]

Immodiums not working well---can't get out to any stores yet

 

[juler]

@juler may I ask have you ever been to rehab? therapy?

You're already 4 days into wds, you are over the worst. You can go so many places from here.

Where do you want to go? Back to pills or back to normalcy?

it sounds like your son is on your side and might be a huge boon in your situation

I'm thinking of normalcy for me. My wd/s now are highly depressing my son who knows I would do anything for him. He thinks they will last another few weeks and he has great plans--believe me he does NOT want me back on the oxy. He just is so unhappy that this is slowing everything down--United doesn't have the gate agent jobs anymore---they do have ramp. He said he just wanted to be honest with me. I feel I am ruining his life---yes he is young and pretty co=dependant on me--he also never drinks or does drugs of any kind but clonazepam for his anxiety. I know I can function on the oxy if that dr next week will prescribe them for me. My empty RX containers--they come in boxes with pills in foil- 4 sleeves to a box for 56. Anyway I said I took 2 60's in the am and one 30 in the afternoon and 2 60's at night.---I can get by with that.

 

[Nurse Ratched]

I'm thinking of normalcy for me. My wd/s now are highly depressing my son who knows I would do anything for him. He thinks they will last another few weeks and he has great plans--believe me he does NOT want me back on the oxy. He just is so unhappy that this is slowing everything down--United doesn't have the gate agent jobs anymore---they do have ramp. He said he just wanted to be honest with me. I feel I am ruining his life---yes he is young and pretty co=dependant on me--he also never drinks or does drugs of any kind but clonazepam for his anxiety. I know I can function on the oxy if that dr next week will prescribe them for me. My empty RX containers--they come in boxes with pills in foil- 4 sleeves to a box for 56. Anyway I said I took 2 60's in the am and one 30 in the afternoon and 2 60's at night.---I can get by with that.

Damn, hon. That's 270 mgs. of oxy a day. I don't want you to get your hopes up. I can't imagine ANY U.S. Dr's prescribing that much per day. I'm not sure you should tell him you need that much.

I'm gonna assume that the pain clinic is going to recommend 4 30 mg pills per day. Total script would be for 120 pills. I fear that even if you get that you will be out in a week. Are you sure you need that much to function? I only know my State but the U.S. has pretty much adopted the same mindset everywhere. I can almost guarantee you that nobody will prescribe 270 mgs per day. That's 9 30 mg. blues. I just don't want you to get your hopes up.

 

[juler]

I assume my tolerance should be very low --whenever this appt comes---so 270 I thought was low--you know how high I have been if you've read this thread, and the 1500mgs daily is 100% true. I was still going to start slow and try to stay there. Lower than 270 of course--its been a week now---I might get an appt next week? My son who lives in NYC with his girlfriend said I should take suboxone.---She was into Heroin--she's like 25 now--but she's been clean for 4 years She was just looking to get high though--I mean it was dual for me obviously--I do have the real pain issues though.

 

[juler]

Are you currently in Brooklyn?
I’m assuming you would have thought of this had you been able to - do a telesoc visit and have your doc renew scripts & send 1 here and maybe DHL the others?
I will tell you one thing- you are not going to get ANY oxy’s out of docs here. They will most likely either refer you to a pain mgmt center ( start a medical history from beginning which is way too much for you to do) and even then they will most likely only give you the least amount possible ( new FDA regs).

Your son is thinking ahead for you here, he is trying to taper your use ahead of time because he knows how difficult it is to get off these. Due to the amount you’ve taken for so long, your tolerance must be sky high ( no pun intended here ), you might not be at risk for an OD , but as a city Medical Examiner I can tell you - your internal organs can only take so much toxic abuse before they give up one by one on you, that fact- most times will lead to death, when overdose is ruled out. It’s called “acute toxicity”.

It’s time to bust a move here. You cannot sustain that use here in New York City. Every doc in the city is under mandatory regulations set forth by a regulatory agency set to prevent opioid abuse. Your 4 days ahead; I know how bad it is , but persevere , and supplement with subs. If you do not do it now, your going to be in this predicament more often than not.

Good luck!

I forgot to mention and maybe you can help me with this. I had a tumor in my pancreas in 2012 - I had a distal pancreatectomy with splenectomy--so I only have half a pancreas and no spleen. I was on the severely compromised list with the NHS due to this. I had really just started up the oxy problem so that didn't do it. I am probably more at risk of acute toxicity?

 

[1nanny]

believe me its the real thing----I have been through wds 5 times when my refills ran out--I was able to see 5 drs in the UK b/c the pharmacies don't share info. Truly I was at a very high dose - I just never went past 4 days w/o. I started in the US and 3 yrs later - I was taking them in the UK. |I had to go to London by train twice a week to get my rxs. This past year 3 drs dropped me- one found out I was getting it from another dr--the others didn't feel comfortable prescribing it anymore. It's amazing if this wasn't oxy for 12 years that I am going through HELL wds--I had tapered down to 300 mgs--my son took control of them. I just wish I had some kind of timeline of when I will feel a bit better.

 

[juler]

Day 8 now oxy w/ds --- feeling better-I think if the dr I found at the hospital monday would see me today, I could make myself presentable and take a taxi there. God I hope they can see me.

 

[Fiori di Bella]

I live in CA and I’m prescribed 80mg Oxy daily. Please keep in mind that I can only speak for my experience in CA and I’m not familiar with the rules in other US states.

My opiates are managed through a pain management clinic. I understand it’s not easy to get into a pain mgmt practice. One has to be referred to this kind of clinic—you can’t call and make an appointment. In addition, your complete medical records will be perused carefully, and you are subjected to a very complex interview by a pain specialist prior to any decision being made re: whether you are a suitable candidate to receive a script of ANY kind of opiate. You will also sign a pain contract, which states that you will not seek any pain drugs from any other provider. If you do, they will promptly drop you from the pain mgmt. practice. The only exception to this is opiates you are administered while in the hospital. I’m glad this is the case; I average 3 hospital admissions each year, along with kidney stone surgeries.

I was originally started with hydrocodone and I was taking 90 of the 500/325 monthly. This wasn’t adequately controlling my pain. At my next month’s appointment, I was given MS Contin to take in addition to my Hydros. The morphine was supposed to make the pain relief last longer. I would nod hard on that morphine and I was doing this in public and I couldn’t deal with any improprietous appearance that made me look like I was a junkie. At my next month’s appointment, I reported that I really wasn’t doing well with the morphine, though from a recreational standpoint it was enjoyable (of course I didn’t say that). I was given Percocet (Oxycodone APAP) and I was discontinued off the Hydros and morphine. Those Percocets worked for me for several years, but after a few bouts of acute renal failure in 2018 and the insertion of a renal tube for months, and a ureteral catheter which was followed by a surgery to cut out part of my ureter and reattach my ureter to a new place on my bladder, I was given Oxys. I was given 90 20mg Oxys monthly. Then every time I had another kidney stone, my doc would give me an extra 30 pills for that month. About 10 months ago, they saw that I’d been taking 120 of the 20mg Oxys (because I’d had a kidney stone the previous month) and they never bumped me back down to my regular dosage (when I didn’t have a renal stone) of just 90 pills monthly. So now I’m up to 120 pills monthly and I’m always hoping they don’t catch their mistake from months ago.

Another thing to remember about pain management practices is that, at least here, they’re required to do regular urine tests. And at least at my clinic, everything shows up. One month, I’d been taking Cyclobenzaprine (Flexiril) that I’d received from the pain clinic months earlier. However, they’d switched me to Baclofen a few months prior on an as needed basis, as I’d told them the Flexiril wasn’t so effective for me. I took my urine test, and I was given the usual form where I check off all the drugs I’ve taken over the past 3 months. I forgot to mention the Flexiril so at my next appointment, they brought up that I had been switched to Baclofen and I shouldn’t be taking the Flexiril, which showed up in my urine test, unless I wanted to switch back to that drug. Another time, I was very stressed and I took some Diazepam my brother had. My urine test was several days later so I wasn’t worried about the diazepams showing up on the urine test. However, they did and I was lectured about taking other people’s drugs, because all my docs have access to CURES, which is CA’s controlled substances user database, and they can see what one is, and is not prescribed. I read a few years ago that Florida was the last state to enact a state based controlled substances user database and now they are used in every US state.
The other thing about the urine test is that they are checking to see that I have the Oxys in my system. If someone doesn’t test positive for what they are prescribed, they have concerns that perhaps the patient is selling their supply, and Oxys in my dosage are worth a lot these days as they’re hard to find; 2 of them will pay for a mani-pedi.

If you feel you really need Oxys for pain mgmt. purposes, and it’s not an issue of wanting them simply for the enjoyment, I’d gather all your supporting medical records and make sure you don’t include any hint of drug-seeking behavior in your batch of records. I’d then make an appointment with a family or general practitioner and explain that you were being treated with pain mgmt in England, you have all your supporting records and you’d like a referral to a pain management specialist. They may refer you to a different type of specialist, like a rheumatologist or an orthopedist instead. Then it’s up to you to see that specialist and ask them for the referral to pain mgmt.

It isn’t easy, but it can be done, assuming you have records that support the use of Oxy and it’s going to take perseverance on your part. I doubt that you’ll get quite the amount that you’d been getting in the UK.

Lastly, you do not need any $$ to visit an emergency room in the US. You can go in, and a financial counselor will likely meet with you during your ER visit, to see if you qualify for Medicaid or perhaps some other program that would cover your expenses. You cannot be turned away, so go to the ER if you have to.

 

[juler]

Thank you so much for your reply--I am on day 7 of my w/ds, but I finally got my Health ins approved and a Drs appt tomorrow. This Doctor is aware of my situation as she came into see me when I was in the ER on Monday last.--She said she would handle my pain mgmt and I only have a little over 24 hrs to wait. You are certainly right about the street value--I was contacted by a guy who will sell me 50 80's for 1000$--Anyway thank you so much for your info. I'll let you know how it turns out tomorrow.