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Oxycodone/Perc Questions

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StayingWithgreen

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what's up, I just have a few questions about Oxycodone.

My friends roomate is a pharmacist and often has an abundance of the following pills -

white round 512 - Oxycodone 5 mg and Acetaminophen 325 mg

and recently started getting

White round Watson 932 - oxycodone 10 MG / Acetaminophen325 MG

I bought a whole bunch just to keep around in case i break my back skateboarding or for migraines which I tend to get.

Anyway, to the point.. my town (or at least my pot connections) have been dry for weeks. I have been grinding up 2 of the 10mgs and mixing with it water.. it feels pretty great but doesn't last very long.

Finally to my actual question - What is the general consensus on crushing the 10mgs into a fine powder and railing them? Worth the trouble? Is the tylenol going to pose a problem? I would appreciate any information from someone who has tried this. Thanks.
 
crush it up and put it in toilet paper and thats parachuting, but mixing it with water and drinking it is basically the same thing, try doing alittle more but be careful opiates are a slipper slope trust me
 
The formulations the OP is referring to are instant release, thus parachuting or even the grinding and putting in liquid are unnecessary.
Do not snort them, they contain acetaminophen and other binders with a low oxy/filler/apap ratio.
Not to mention that the oral bio-availability of oxycodone is higher than the intranasal.
Basically snorting them would be getting less out of your product than you are now, in other words a complete waste of oxycodone. :!
If you want more of an effect you would have to increase your dosage.
That however as the prior poster pointed out has it's own consequences as time goes by.
As always it's your choice in the matter, but hopefully with the responses in your thread it will be a more informed one.

If you like for even more information and discussion, you could always head right on over to The Oxycontin Mega Thread

Also just noticed your a greenlighter, so welcome to bluelight, may your stay be an informative one. :)

Just thought of this one, without upping your dosage you could always try some of the methods in The Ultimate Opiate Potentiation Thread

Some methods work better for some people than others, YMMV.
 
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don't snort perc's, not only is it bad to snort apap, it will burn like a motherfucker, and you will be wasting most of it because of how much fillers are in those, your nose will be way too saturated with powder to properly absorb most of it......just eat them after a fatty meal, maybe try some diphenhydramine or something else to potentiate it......if you wanna rail oxycodone get some blues or OC's (I prefer blues)
 
Thanks for the info, guys.

IndustrialStrength said:
grinding and putting in liquid are unnecessary.
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You sure? I thought that once ground into a fine powder they were absorbed quicker so you can feel the effects sooner. And I thought you could only do this with pills that aren't time release.. because if you were to do it with time release pills it would be dangerous. Anyway I'll take your word on not snorting them.. I never wanted to.. it seems sketch to snort anything... It's just that I was researching it on other sites and most people were saying that snorting percs is the best way to go.

Peace
 
oooh yeah.. I almost forgot.. Not that I am going to rail them... but would snorting them possibly reduce the stomach pain they can cause from taking them orally?
 
nope. either way you can get sick from it, it just usually means you took too much for your tolerance. After a while it goes away
 
Whoever told you snorting percs was the "way to go" is very misinformed. Percocets are horrible to snort. The pill contains only 5mg of oxycodone, and ATLEAST 325mg of acetominophen, and countless other binders. All the shit you don't want will clog your nose. The pills are instant release so crushing them is unnecessary, just swallow them and they will still hit you quickly. Now if you had oxycontin, (extended release oxycodone) then yes you would need to crush it to defeat the time release.

I don't know what website you were "researching" on, but stay far far away from it.
 
Originally Posted by Stayingwithgreen >
You sure?
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Yes I am. As was seconded by Brokedownpalace on the post prior to this one.

Originally Posted by Stayingwithgreen >
And I thought you could only do this with pills that aren't time release.. because if you were to do it with time release pills it would be dangerous.
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There is no inherent danger in doing this.
The reason why you are directed not to by the manufacturer, doctors, etc.
is because on certain pills it is all you need to do to defeat the time release mechanism.

For example you are taking 20mg of instant release oxycodone.
Lets say you have an 80mg oxycodone extended release preparation, for example brand name Oxycontin.
Normally the 80mg is released over a extended period of time, with an initial part of the dose being slightly higher than the amount per hour.
However, if you crush the pill first, you would receive the 80mg all at once as opposed to over a period of time.
Thus why you are instructed not to.
There is no inherent danger from defeating the time release.
The danger is in that you will get to much in your system at once if you don't factor in that your getting it all at once rather than over time.
That can lead to overdose if you did not factor your tolerance and the instant vs extended when dosing in such a manner.

Originally Posted by BrokedownPalace >
I don't know what website you were "researching" on, but stay far far away from it.
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I agree, if people are telling you to snort percocet, that being oxycodone/acetaminophen preparations then stay away from them.
That advise is just plain stupid. :|
Something I would expect from an uneducated teenage drug user, not from someone who has any knowledge of drug use.

Hope that clarifies things a bit for you.

Note that I simplified things quite a bit, if you need more in depth explanations on anything in particular, feel free to ask.
 
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Alright I will take you're word for it.

but playing the devils advocate... a solid pill will take time to dissolve and be absorbed.. It just seems physically impossible that your body will absorb a solid pill as fast as it would a ground up one. I could be way off the mark here, but i thought it had something to do with surface area.
 
I'm sorry I should have clarified that there may be some slight difference.
Perhaps even a more pronounced difference with some substances, I'm not 100% positive.
However, with the substances we're speaking of the difference would be essentially negligible to my knowledge.
Also from personal experience as opposed to what I've heard/read, I would have to go with the difference being negligible as well.
If I had the time I'd try to find some sort of definitive source but am somewhat busy atm, perhaps someone will locate one.

Additional Note: An example of when this might make a difference is say you had a 100mg tolerance and you did a CWE.
Rather than the 20 pills if you were using 5's the liquid solution would probably have more of a noticeable difference.
As opposed to at smaller doses/volumes.
Again I don't have a source handy, so that might just be speculation, but to me it seems probable.
 
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You guys are giving him half-truths and such. Here is some hopefully definitive answers.

1. Yes you can parachute them/mix with water, a solid pill will take longer to break down then pre-ground powder.

2. No, do not snort them. The APAP will act as a mechanical barrier, significantly hindering absorbtion. Plus the oral BA is near 100%.

And bigSHERM... I don't think he said anything about "getting sick" in the traditional sense of opiate induced nausea, he refered to a pain in his stomach. Now OP, is this nausea, or pain? If it is nausea, it will effect you no matter the ROA. However, if it is pain I am not sure what the root of this is.

On another note, you sound like you're on a slippery slope of opiate addiction. Be careful. You stated that you only have these around in case you 'break your back skating' or for 'migranes'. Nice junkie justification lol. Opiates aren't particularly good for headaches (even inducing them in sensitive people) and if you break your back you would obviously get prescribed your own narcotics lol. And then you refer to taking 20mgs to 'feel good'. As I said, be careful...
 
Ok anybody who says you cant snort percs because of the apap has obviously never snorted a perc. Snorting is my sole method of ingestion of pills and it is so much better than orally. I dont know how YOU snort stuff, but i leave the powder in my nose for 15-30 minutes until it all absorbs. If i take a percocet orally it will not affect me at all. 10/325s are actually not as good as the ones with more apap like a 10/500 because the 325s are so much harder. Softer pills absorb better than hard pills when you snort. Anybody that has experience in this would know. Also, snorting does prevent the stomach pain. Opiates are really hard on your stomach, snorting them keeps the opiates from absorbing through your stomach because it absorbs in your nose and all that ends up in your stomach is the apap. My girlfriend physically can not take opiates orally because they make her so sick to her stomach but has no problem snorting.
 
^ I'm not one to argue but you can't argue science. It ms may hit you faster snorting them but the ba is significantly lower therefore you would absorb more of the drug taking it orally. OP yes crushing them up will help them absorb faster. I suggest parachuting them as explained above.
 
blopawert said:
Ok anybody who says you cant snort percs because of the apap has obviously never snorted a perc. Snorting is my sole method of ingestion of pills and it is so much better than orally. I dont know how YOU snort stuff, but i leave the powder in my nose for 15-30 minutes until it all absorbs. If i take a percocet orally it will not affect me at all. 10/325s are actually not as good as the ones with more apap like a 10/500 because the 325s are so much harder. Softer pills absorb better than hard pills when you snort. Anybody that has experience in this would know. Also, snorting does prevent the stomach pain. Opiates are really hard on your stomach, snorting them keeps the opiates from absorbing through your stomach because it absorbs in your nose and all that ends up in your stomach is the apap. My girlfriend physically can not take opiates orally because they make her so sick to her stomach but has no problem snorting.
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It's because they were talking about the percs from three years ago in 2010. 8(

Leaping Gnome :p
 
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