Opioids Oxycodone hydrochloride

[Them Witches]

I know they were bringing mad heroin / poppy back when we first went into afghanistan. (My personal silver lining of that war the H quality went up a TON)

Facts. 2013 The US had a yearly quota of 143 metric tons of Thebaine. That is how Purdue got Thebaine to make Oxycotin was from Afgan raw opium

 

[4DQSAR]

The USAF swapped to modafilil and a Z-drug... likely because amphetamine was pretty well known to mess up a pilots sense of judgement.

Agression is already 'built in' and what you don't want is someone risking an incredibly expensive aircraft and an incredibly expensive training programme on a target that does not justify that risk.

I know it is a trope within the UK military which goes something like 'all the gear but no idea'.

FYI 90% of the world's thebaine and oripavine comes from the Norman Strain of poppy. 50% of that being grown by Tazmanian Alkaloids.

 

[Them Witches]

The USAF swapped to modafilil and a Z-drug... likely because amphetamine was pretty well known to mess up a pilots sense of judgement.

Agression is already 'built in' and what you don't want is someone risking an incredibly expensive aircraft and an incredibly expensive training programme on a target that does not justify that risk.

I know it is a trope within the UK military which goes something like 'all the gear but no idea'.

FYI 90% of the world's thebaine and oripavine comes from the Norman Strain of poppy. 50% of that being grown by Tazmanian Alkaloids.

good know. Sweden, Spain, have Thebaine strains. AUS has it in their poppy straw but it is for Johnson & Johnson pharmacuticals

Afgan meant illicit morphine, Codeine, Thebaine for the US. Illicit meaning free for the taking.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

In Tazmania? That would be new information to me.

I got confused normally I would presume some strain of tazmanian poppy grown in the middle east --- but the norman strain thing made it fairly clear you werent talking about strain (?)

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

what an unlucky person/situation!

I try and stay away from SSRI's --- my ability to trip has been affected by sub ( I think, or excessive nbome and lsd ) I lean towards the suboxone having something to do with it.
(of course the benzos in the system doesnt help but at 2mg a day I should be able to get through that)

Interesting.

I've never had any problems tripping on LSD or shrooms on Subs. Although the last few times I tried shrooms, they gave me a severe body load, confusion, weird physical sensations that I didn't enjoy (they were penis envy's). So I quit having anything to do with shrooms. After trying acid, I decided shrooms weren't even worth it. I love the stimulating aspect of LSD. It's like taking a more psychedelic version of MDMA or something. Even makes me horny!

But yeah, I watched two people on SSRIs take acid with alcohol & both went to bed & I ended up being the only one tripping that night. SSRIs can definitely screw up trips. Although I have a friend who claims they can feel shrooms even on their high dose Effexor. Which is weird to me. I've told them probably shouldn't be taking shrooms on an SNRI, but people are gonna do whatever they're gonna do. And I suppose everyone's unique body chemistry is different.

 

[Dr. John Thackery]

The rush kinda sucks compared to most opiates though? (Or do you subjectively not agree) You have tried IV morphine and Hydromorphone?

For me the oxy rush was pretty negligible but I certainly seen ppl throw they lives away shooting them -- heard of ppl throwing they lives away 'smoking' them which I dont care to discuss as it has been ad nauseum ad infinum times already

I like the dilaudid high more than oxy -- but I can see that being highly subjective one being thebaine derived. Both are pretty short lived snorted or IV'd --- oxy may be a bit warmer and more stimulating....

Dilaudid is better at just calming the brain and just feels cleaner to me --- ok the rush has a huge part of it. Can't beat it IMO/E.

I hear meth gives it a run for its money but no thanks on that

hey. i used to talk to u under my old screen name a few years ago.

yea oxy isn’t worth IVing to me these days although in the early 2000s i did it daily. oxy is too stimulating period is why it is pretty low ranked for me for that reason.

hydromorphone is indeed the only drug “worth” the risks of injecting because it produces a high (a short rush) that is a different feeling that can’t be experienced any other way.

fuck drugs. fucking ruined my body and therefore life with them .

 

[4DQSAR]

In Tazmania? That would be new information to me.

I got confused normally I would presume some strain of tazmanian poppy grown in the middle east --- but the norman strain thing made it fairly clear you werent talking about strain (?)

Yep - Tazmanian Alkaloids selectively bred opium poppies to they contained no codeine or morphine but were chock full of thebaine and oripavine. They even patented it (The Norman Strain and the process of selective breeding).

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So it is papaver somniverum BUT need not be grown in high-security fields. Which is why I keep asking why no Tazmanian has just swiped some seeds...

Since then they renamed themselves as Extractas Bioscience. I don't know why but too often it's not for good reason(s).

 

[Dextro .45]

The Delta Force guys and Navy Seal guys bring there own med bags full of everything. I was listening to a Delta tell a story while undercover deep OP's where the Afgans were trying to dope him up on poppy tea, he drank it, then took his speed out of his med bag and played asleep.

All Tier 1 operators have a “tactical medic” and each operator has on their person immediately ready IM Morphine Sulphate, or Dilaudid or Diamorphine…..the public has has idea. Dopaminergic stimulants …..d-Amphetamines or even Desoxyn

Geneva convention laws of war permits non expanding full metal jacket ammunition

SEAL Team 6 dude with the same pistol I own…..an Hk MARK 23 SOCOM .45 with threaded barrel to accept Knights Amament sound suppressor (silencer) and Streamlight LAM laser aiming modular……..a $7,000.00 USD Offensive .45 ACP combat pistol ……his ammunition was Olin Winchester “Black Talons” in the pic…….+P Jacketed Hollow Points 230 grain @ 1,000 feet per second (not the standard 850 feet per second)

Spec ops, Dev Gru, SOCOM, Tier 1 operators don’t play the normal rules……that rag head compound…….EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ERRATICATED with lethal precision ……Bin Alden’s sons, wife, dog, let gold fish…….suppressed and silenced FOREVER

My SOCOM .45 at 100 & 200 yards 10-round magazine 200 grain +P JHP I get grouping the size of a dinner plate at 200 yards…..that TWO football fields, end zone to end zone , back to back…….2.5k CND Al Simmons gun shop brand new in the box over 20 years ago. Google MARK 23 SOCOM .45 and you’ll know

My Colt M4 Carbine 5.56mm and my Springfield Armory M-14 battle rifle 7.62mm Id drop a MOFO with a 200 yard head shot , for breakfast……Winchester 147 grain full metal jacket boat tail travelling nearly 3X the speed of sound

“In Country” and real deployment shit……fuck man…..200mg Testosterone IM injection before deploying, Amphetamines, potent opioid painkillers Dilaudid 8mg auto injected like an epinpen

 

[Dextro .45]

And yes….in Canada we have 4-5 generic manufacturers making OxyContin without B.s. gum crap

Purdue Pharma is only one sucking Health Canada C@ck

Oxy-IR 5/10/20mg
Dilaudid 2/4/8mg IR
Methadone 25mg tablets

Ritalin, Biphenitin, Foquest
Dexedrine, Adderall, Vyvanse,
Diazepam, Alprazolam, Lorazepam, Clonazepam

Canadian special access program we can even get genuine Diamorphine 5/10/30/100/500mg IV ampoules and Desoxyn 5mg tablets (d-Methamphetamine HCL)

 

[Dextro .45]

Honestly for a 3X lifetime supply of ever CII controlled substance ever……I’d —————————….like Fuck u DEA and Health Canada ……..these dip shits “LOST 300,000 tablets of PF Dilaudid 8mg tablets ……just GONE. PERIOD. DONE. CASE CLOSED.

Illicit market with massive $$$$$$

Id still prefer Sandoz Canada Hydromorphone HP FORT 1,000mg/10ml glass vial…that’s 100mg of proper Pharma HM in a single 1ml syringe……half is 50mg Hydromorphone which would kill most people IV injected

Methadone 100kg (220lbs) blue plastic drum of API compounding powder pure Methadone HCL USP ……..fuck me

 

[4DQSAR]

All Tier 1 operators have a “tactical medic” and each operator has on their person immediately ready IM Morphine Sulphate, or Dilaudid or Diamorphine…..the public has has idea. Dopaminergic stimulants …..d-Amphetamines or even Desoxyn

Small unit tactics dictate that each section/platoon has at least one person who understands a wider range of medications.

Obviously, they are (one hope) a bit more trustworthy than an average unit. Stimulants were studied as early as the 1930s and it was noted that while such medications allowed soldiers to complete tasks beyond their normal endurance, there wasn't an overall advantage because of the recovery time.

I seem to recall being gifted a copy of the book 'Blitzed' which details how the Nazis tested pills containing cocaine and methamphetamine. I think that's where I read about that action-recover time making it of use only in a limited number of circumstances.

So it's no surprise. I'm a bit confused why three opioids would be used. Oddly oxycodone is conspicuous by it's absence as again, the book noted that in 1920s Germany, Eukadol was used because it had both analgesic and stimulant properties.

Still, very interesting to read. So thank you.

 

[Dextro .45]

Eukadol (Oxycodone) does in fact have insanely potent euphoric properties in addition to being a non-sedating potent opioid analgesic

Yes…..long term d-Methamphetamine infact has detrimental recovery time, depression, lethargy etc

But today it’s used by SpecOps as needed…..before an Op, ya, they’ll take 10mg of Methamphetamine, few days prior 200mg Testosterone IM reaching peak serum levels

So Methedrine……plus Oxycodone 5-10mg & Testosterone……these guys are killing machines clearing rooms with laser like precision making split second decisions……neutralize the threat….or innocent civilian

My Mossberg M590A1 Entry Model 12Ga with 14” barrel …..for clearing rooms close quarters combat using Magnum 000 Buckshot @ 1325 feet per second.

8 MASSIVE Pellets per shell, like a .357 magnum , 8 men each holding a hand cannon…….that what it’s like with a 12 Gauge shotgun using Magnum Buckshot

Colt M4 Carbine with M203 40mm grenade launcher hi explosive
Colt M16A4 fullsize
Springfield M-14 battle rifle
Remington M40A1 sniper rifle bolt action
Colt M1911 Government Model .45 Automatic
Mossberg M590A1 12GA entry shotgun
Hand grenades
LOTS OF AMMUNITION, WATER, MRE’s, batteries, sat phone, drugs, spare magazines & parts for repairs, cleaning kits, body armour…..comms to connect to an F-16 Fighting Falcon or F-15 Eagle for laser guided munitions to wipe out entire blocks, buildings, bunkers, etc

Oh…..and the Apache Long Bow Gunship with its 20mm auto cannon & 16 hellfire missions …….helicopter or armoured battle tank in the air …..A10 Warhog 30mm GAU rottory cannon

God bless the USA

 

[4DQSAR]

@Dextro .45 - Obviously I know almost nothing of which you speak. I just wondered why specifically testosterone? I can remember when the BALCO scandal happened. Obviously I was more interested in the chemistry and what the chemist at BALCO had worked were three things:

1-Tetrahydrogestinone is (or at least was) considered the most potent and most active anabolic steroid.
2-Gestrinone was available as an API and finds clinical use in the treatment of endometriosis.
3-Gestrinone could be reduced to tetrahydrogestinone in one quantitative yielding step needing nothing more than palladium on carbon (catalyst), methanol (solvent) and hydrogen.

I was at once appalled & intrigued then after some research, impressed. Impressed that someone had simply looked at what steroids were legally available and what (if anything) a small modification would make.

Even decades later, the Turkish Olympic weighlifting team were banned for using RU-2309, a single methyl group from tetrahydrogestinone. That last one cannot readily be made from a commercially available API as far as I know but as with 'the clear', I suggest that they bet on the tiny doses needed would not be detected, hence, 'the clear 2 - this time it's expensive'.

 

[Them Witches]

Eukadol (Oxycodone) does in fact have insanely potent euphoric properties in addition to being a non-sedating potent opioid analgesic

The Mallinckrodt brand crushed or non-crushed dissolved under the tongue does give it some sedating properties. I do it everyday for the past 16 years.

 

[Dextro .45]

@Dextro .45 - Obviously I know almost nothing of which you speak. I just wondered why specifically testosterone? I can remember when the BALCO scandal happened. Obviously I was more interested in the chemistry and what the chemist at BALCO had worked were three things:

1-Tetrahydrogestinone is (or at least was) considered the most potent and most active anabolic steroid.
2-Gestrinone was available as an API and finds clinical use in the treatment of endometriosis.
3-Gestrinone could be reduced to tetrahydrogestinone in one quantitative yielding step needing nothing more than palladium on carbon (catalyst), methanol (solvent) and hydrogen.

I was at once appalled & intrigued then after some research, impressed. Impressed that someone had simply looked at what steroids were legally available and what (if anything) a small modification would make.

Even decades later, the Turkish Olympic weighlifting team were banned for using RU-2309, a single methyl group from tetrahydrogestinone. That last one cannot readily be made from a commercially available API as far as I know but as with 'the clear', I suggest that they bet on the tiny doses needed would not be detected, hence, 'the clear 2 - this time it's expensive'.

200mg IM injection of depo-Testosterone is HANDS DOWN the Ultimate antidepressant/Mood-boosting, performance enhancing drug……a few days after my first shot I was driving and thinking…..”why do I feel Sooooo fucking Amazing”? an inner contentment, joy, happiness, pro-social, alpha confidence (but not a rude cocky prick) respectfully aware of proper social etiquette, but you carry yourself like Superman, even a powder full walk with endurance and purpose (a mature lady GENUINELY told me….you have a very powerful walk…..no shit.

But your smiling and giving off positive energy…..not aggression or bad vibes

You’re like a 19 year old stud that just climaxed inside your GF you’re both madly deeply in love


After 40….free testosterone levels decline in the bloodstream. Simple test. Simple script …..mine was due to serious incident leaving me with chronic pain…long term opioids suppressing natural hormone production…..loosing interest & desire in sex…..SOMETHING BERY WRONG !!!!! Doc gave me a 10ml glass vial 1,000mg X 13 repeats

After my 200mg IM shot in ass muscle …..takes 1.5 days to reach peak serum levels, returning to base line in 2 weeks , why its prescribed shot every 2 weeks ……..Absolutely STAPLE to proper mental, emotion, physical well-being ….these are proper therapeutic doses….not abusing it as an anabolic steroid

Erections…….like ordnance grade forged STEEL (with L-Citrulline supplement/potent vasodilator) ……and SIGNIFICANTLY enhanced sexual desire ….like, you wanna F@CK ha ha

My thick Ass Portuguese GF gets home, all curvaceous like Selma Hyak …..I would essentially POUND THE #*$& outta her (concentually) and eat her alive, like u wanna just lick the sweat off her ass…..you’re a primitive animal

GET YOUR FREE T LEVELS CHECKED MEN 40+

 

[Dextro .45]

Small unit tactics dictate that each section/platoon has at least one person who understands a wider range of medications.

Obviously, they are (one hope) a bit more trustworthy than an average unit. Stimulants were studied as early as the 1930s and it was noted that while such medications allowed soldiers to complete tasks beyond their normal endurance, there wasn't an overall advantage because of the recovery time.

I seem to recall being gifted a copy of the book 'Blitzed' which details how the Nazis tested pills containing cocaine and methamphetamine. I think that's where I read about that action-recover time making it of use only in a limited number of circumstances.

So it's no surprise. I'm a bit confused why three opioids would be used. Oddly oxycodone is conspicuous by it's absence as again, the book noted that in 1920s Germany, Eukadol was used because it had both analgesic and stimulant properties.

Still, very interesting to read. So thank you.

Three opioid wouldn’t be used…..at once….was just giving examples of suitable POTENT water soluable, rapid acting opioid analgesic meds IM autinjecor pen into thigh muscle or wherever …..Diluted has an 8mg IM pen….id personally have 4 pens on me…..with Desoxyn tablets…….LOTS of spare ammunition, water, MRE’s, etc

Ounces equal pounds …….pounds equal PAIN. Direct quote from a Delta Force Tier 1 Spec Ops Operator. Very true statement……try tracking 13km with 130lbs ruck sack over ur back, M4 Carbine, 13 magazines, Beretta M9, level 4+ solid plates, body armour stopping an Ak-47 round dead in its tracks …..and WATER…..Fuuuuuck

Any idea HOW MUCH WATER WEIGHS ha ha ha …..fuuuuuck.

You NEED a Testosterone injection and d-Methamphetamine + low dose Oxycodone

Essential. Hands down

 

[4DQSAR]

200mg IM injection of depo-Testosterone is HANDS DOWN the Ultimate antidepressant/Mood-boosting, performance enhancing drug.

Have you sampled DHG or RU-2309? Both are supposed to be hundreds of times more potent than testosterone.

 

[Dextro .45]

No…..just prescribed therapeutic doses are potent enough……like, WOW

 

[4DQSAR]

BTW = just talked with an old friend who described the CWAA 'brunch box' (which is just MARCH & S) and had need to use one. So of course I was interested in good the new gauzes and tracha kits and so on really were. I think their response says it all 'keeps you alive for long enough to wish that you weren't'. Morpine Coffins now containe fentanyl lozenges - easier if YOU are the casualty. Two 400ug but can hold eight (for multiple casualties). So, live and learn - we are getting better at dirt to doctor in under an hour was, is and always will be the goal.

 

[opiatekrzy]

I have injected hydromorphone tablets before and I must say I was very disappointed. I would feel a millisecond Rush literally and then I'd be back to sober and I ran through like 20 pills in one sitting it was such a waste of time