Oxycodone first time dose with high codeine tolerance?

[atv]

Hi,

Yes I know similar topics are covered but I want to find out exactly my own needs.

I can aquire 1 x 40mg OC pill if i so wish.

Problem is I have a relatively high codeine tolerance and also can handle a lot of tramadols but havent touched em for more than a week now. Tolerance 750 - 1000mg's codeine a few times a week, ceiling does doesnt seem to happen to me. Always get more out of 800 rather than 500 for instance. Dunno why.

Would 40mg of OC be enough to get me high with that tolerance?? otherwise its not worth me acquiring.

How would the best way to take it be?
I heard to Suck off coating crush finely, and make one 20mg line to start and then one 20mg parachuted. This correct?

Help appreciated!

 

[churchpk]

I'd start with 10 - 15 mg lines personally with a codeine tolerance, since it's a relatively weak opiate. Always start with less, it's better to take too little than too much.

If it is an OC, and not an OP, then there are many resources online to help you figure out the best way for administration, but it would definitely get you a much better feeling than the codeine.

 

[atv]

I'd start with 10 - 15 mg lines personally with a codeine tolerance, since it's a relatively weak opiate. Always start with less, it's better to take too little than too much.

If it is an OC, and not an OP, then there are many resources online to help you figure out the best way for administration, but it would definitely get you a much better feeling than the codeine.

I was told OC but have again asked him if it is prolonged release to be sure.
So the powder of the crushed pill is just oxy? There must be binders in it, if so i just make sure its a quarter of the powder for a ten mg line?
Sure I want to be safe, is 10mg even enough, and can it be re dosed unlike codeine? Dont wanna overdo it but also want to feel it!

Is nasally better than oral? I hear its shorter acting. What I really like about codeine is the body buzz i get from it, is it like that multiplied or like H where you just nod out for a while.

One last thing - Why is it made in instant release in such a high dosage? For people with high tolerance to pain meds? Cos surely i would get messed up totally if i took the whole thing!

Thanks

 

[Morphling]

An oxy 40 insufflated is about equal to 200mg codeine, so I don't think it'd be worth it. If you crushed the oxy and took it orally, it'd be equal to about 400mg codeine.

You get far, far better bioavailability with oxycodone if you take it orally, I think it's a total waste to hoover it up.

GL!

 

[atv]

An oxy 40 insufflated is about equal to 200mg codeine, so I don't think it'd be worth it. If you crushed the oxy and took it orally, it'd be equal to about 400mg codeine.

You get far, far better bioavailability with oxycodone if you take it orally, I think it's a total waste to hoover it up.

GL!

So, if i barely feel anything from 400mg of codeine then i probably wouldn't feel anything on 40mg oxy crushed orally?
Might not bother then as I can't afford more than one at the moment. Whilst comparisons are good to know, it doesn't help much with informing about the mind and body feeling so is it a similar feeling to codeine on 40mg oxy? Warm mellowed feeling? If so I may just stick to codeine as its a hell of a lot cheaper and OTC! (Always CWE)

 

[DynoSpec]

youd likely feel something if you crushed it and ate it, but not what you are hoping.

if you really enjoy codeine i think youd be more into morphine

-oh and that is a large dose of codeine to take regularly. your liver would probably like it if you switched to a stronger opiate or took a break

 

[Morphling]

So, if i barely feel anything from 400mg of codeine then i probably wouldn't feel anything on 40mg oxy crushed orally?
Might not bother then as I can't afford more than one at the moment. Whilst comparisons are good to know, it doesn't help much with informing about the mind and body feeling so is it a similar feeling to codeine on 40mg oxy? Warm mellowed feeling? If so I may just stick to codeine as its a hell of a lot cheaper and OTC! (Always CWE)

That's sort of an interesting question. As you said, you're very tolerant to codeine, but you may not have as much of a cross-tolerance to oxycodone. That is speaking in terms of strength, of course. As for which is going to be more euphoric, that is impossible to say until you try it. Many people would say take the oxy, of course, but if you don't have enough of it, then yes you'd be taking a large risk, especially since it so expensive and you can only get the one.

There is a lot of different factors with codeine, too. How well your body metabolizes it into morphine, and other alkaloids. I wish I could help you more, but I haven't taken more than 270mgs codeine, as it gives me terrible pruritus, even with an antihistamine.

Best bet is probably to stick with the codeine, as you say!

 

[Pagey]

Wowowow. Don't take 40mg at once. Oxy's in a different league to codeine and you wanna be careful when it's your first time.
I find the technical equivalencies charts to be total bullshit tbh. 40mg oxy with that codeine tolerance will have an effect. And no, they don't feel exactly the same, but if you still get high off codeine stick to that. Why make such a massive jump? Codeine addiction's unpleasant enough, don't wanna risk adding oxy to that
Sorry for the vague melodrama but that really is quite the big jump and it rarely ends well.

If you take the oxy though, take it orally, snorting it's a waste. I'd start with 10mg, see how you feel after an hour or so, and then dose up slowly from there if you need to.

 

[atv]

youd likely feel something if you crushed it and ate it, but not what you are hoping.

if you really enjoy codeine i think youd be more into morphine

-oh and that is a large dose of codeine to take regularly. your liver would probably like it if you switched to a stronger opiate or took a break

Ha, don't really think is a good idea to switch to a stronger opiate, then addiction could be a real problem. Plus the only one I can think of is H. And I've done that a few times and it just made me nod off to sleep then wake up sobre. For me I may aswell take 20 valium if I want that! Plus Ive seen some people go through tough shit on that, as most of you probably have. With Codeine I get the slight nod, just drifty, and feel more of a relaxing tingling feeling in my arms that I can be awake to enjoy.

At least I know the codeine is pure too. My normal codeine is 3 packets CWE'd which comes in around 720-750 mgs. I space it out days apart and sometimes not even for a week or two. Done this for a couple of years now and never got physically addicted, psychologically possibly slightly, but its not overpoweringly compulsive as my lust for Ketamine has been over the years, which I haven't been doing recently.

I would hope my liver would be ok, my CWE's are down to near perfection, and I weigh my remaining paracetamol left over if I do a lot. Plus I only drink one or two days of the week.

Maybe the oxy is a bad idea, as it can be re-dosed to get higher. Codeine can't, and even the next day doesn't work as well so I don't bother. While undesirable in some respects, it keeps addiction away and then after not doing it for a week it feels amazing and costs the price of a pint of beer for my usual dose

 

[atv]

youd likely feel something if you crushed it and ate it, but not what you are hoping.

if you really enjoy codeine i think youd be more into morphine

-oh and that is a large dose of codeine to take regularly. your liver would probably like it if you switched to a stronger opiate or took a break9

Yeah but morphine is more money and poor oral bioavailability. Plus if I had boxes of them I may end up popping them, re dosing and getting addicted. Cwe i find is effort, and no re dose so its not viable to do it all the time. Plus can only get loads of em when in London cos some chemists know me in my area!

Next thing I was thinking of buying some p.somniverum poppy seeds and extracting the alkaloids to make flaked opium. I've heard people have good results, and I could perhaps sprinkle a few in the garden too! Tis the season!

Any experiences/good results with this?